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Help settle a disagreement about leashing?

Reynard the ƒox··1 votes·1,643 views

Is it okay for a laner to miss lane xp so that they can leash krugs/gromp for their jungler?

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Colgate Gator5 votes

You can help leash and not miss anything, you don't really have to give up anything.

Drunk Rummate3 votes

you should never leash so hard that you miss experience

auto 3 times, use your ability if possible, and leave. that's a strong leash and you miss nothing.

Snowdawn2 votes

Simple, no.

Speaking for at least bot lane, the current meta (kill supports and burst AD carries) revolves around that level two power spike ; whoever hits level two first almost automatically wins lane if they take advantage of the level difference.

Those two extra autos you gave your jungler probably aren't worth the 300 gold you're about to give to the enemy AD carry!

fdissht2 votes

Assuming you're going gromps/krugs

If I'm botlane or toplane I'd help with leash; if I'm midlane than I probably won't leash. If you're top or bot, throwing 2-3 autoattack+skill isn't going to make you miss a minion, however, if you're mid you will. If he/she is starting red or blue than I will help with leash as mid (except if I am a melee like yas,fizz,etc)

The Chin1 votes

you can leash and not miss any exp, just give it like 3-4 auto's and go to lane.

Reynard the ƒox1 votes

my friend thinks the laner should stay until the camp has less than ten percent health

it makes him really mad when that doesnt happen

also, his jungle path is gromp then blue then red then base

Raemnant1 votes

Having them stay too long is sorta bad, especially if its your mid laner, since sometimes 1-2 minions can die before you get back to lane from a leash. Also that jungle path is pretty normal in this new jungle. It gets you just enough gold to upgrade your machete and get wards/pots. Depending on your jungler, after that red, he might be nearly dead.

The Chin1 votes

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my friend thinks the laner should stay until the camp has less than ten percent health

it makes him really mad when that doesnt happen

also, his jungle path is gromp then blue then red then base

well your friend is wrong, it's not worth the extra leash if your laner misses CS

PolecatNutrients1 votes

I hate it when leashes stay that long because then i have to either smite immediately or not smite that camp at all and miss the buff. I usually prefer to have my lanes stay until about 60-70% then i'll smite it and do the last 2-3 attacks on my own while they go to lane so they don't miss exp. This usually let's me have a pretty safe start on my jungle and keeps them from losing exp/gold

Dr Clueless PhD3 votes

Yeah, your friend is straight-up wrong.

Having said that, he may feel this way because he's jungling poorly and he needs that extra help to get by. Maybe he should look into some S5 jungle footage from high-level players.

Leti the Yeti1 votes

My take on leashes Bot lane should always leash, cuz junglers should always start bot theres 2 people for more AA in a shorter amount of time and now you dont have to disrupt 2 lanes... like top and mid and dont say you need blue buff, I've done jungling and not once have I been in "DIRE IMMEDIATE NEED FOR MANA REGEN RIGHT FUCKING NOW!" While top lane and mid lane, should be optional for them whether they decide to leash you or not

Anyways leashes should only stay at max.. when the big creep hits half hp or so, idk if you have some range ability, might as well toss it on your way out

Rengar Top Lane1 votes

I have been going Shaco lately, so less worry for my teams. ;D

On serious note, few hits (2-4) should do and you can go back to lane.

Trinityunicorn1 votes

I say yes, because that jungler will likely help you, or they could go for more xp and gold in the jungle. They need a good start. Depending upon the jungler it may not always help you, but it should go a ways towards keeping relations with the jungler in the positive and I doubt they'll forget you helped them.

Alamarian1 votes

If the bot lane leashes too long, they risk losing experience to the enemy bot lane and being all-in'd when the enemy hits level 2 before them. BAM! Lane lost or at least at a disadvantage. Even the possibility is not worth the small trade-offs.

MattAkhavan1 votes

if you leash too long you end up losing lane because you lose to much early xp.

Sonny19981 votes

The support can stay in the jungle longer and help the Jungler get the rest of the camps in the Bottom jungle.

Leaf of the lake1 votes

Why are they missing exp? Mid shouldn't be leashing krugs/gromp, so they don't miss anything, and top or bot can leash without missing anything.

Reynard the ƒox1 votes

Everyone knows bot and top can leash without missing xp.

My friend consistently asks his laners to miss xp to leash harder, then gets angry when they don't.

Logical Yasuo1 votes

If i start top i go gromp,wolves , then blue if i need man other wise i do what your friend does. But most of the time i start kruggs and i smite right away so top only has to atack like 3 times then i go raptors to red. Then i back and go clear my other side if none of my lanes need a gank.

ChexMex1 votes

In the nicest sense possible for lack of better terms: Your friend doesn't know how to jungle.

A jungler's job to carry his team through the early portions of the game, how is forcing laners to miss xp going to help them ?

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