How to become a better support?

Twlnkle·4/2/2015, 3:16:49 PM·1 votes·6,007 views
Remnz - North America - Summoners - League of Legends

I am bronze 3, and main support so far i have played 160+ Ranked games. I feel like i am lacking in my supporting abilities, i try to look at some tips to how to Evolve my skills but most of those pages are out dated and i feel like i cannot trust those resources to enhance my skill. I know how to keep track of dragon, ping, ward, call MIA's, Heal, and disengage, but i do not know how to properly engage. As in if i go any support for some reason ill be the guy to lead the charge because i feel like we can take it yet my team mates have no faith and stagger behind leaving me to have a bad engage and die alone. I am slowly trying to stop that by holding back at being front lines with Supports like Sona, janna, and nami.

Though i Still don't know how to follow up with other players, don't know when its a proper time to place wards in enemy jungle, or roam if other lanes need my help, and for the life of me i cant seem to stop myself from attempting to save teammates despite how high the chances are of me being killed in the process. I also do not know how to "Punish" the enemy in my lane.

I just wanna grow as a player and as a support. If anyone can assist me in growing i do not mind the mentoring.

5 Comments

Amelie4/2/2015, 4:55:16 PM4 votes

The problem with bronze and even silver (and gold...) level is that you never know if your team will engage with you or run around in circles until you die. You can try it once and judge their reactions. If they let you die, next time just wait until the enemy engages on your team, and counter-engage them.

You place wards in the enemy jungle when 1) The enemy is dead/you just won a fight and you know it is therefore safe to do so or 2) You have vision of the enemy in other areas. If neither of these are true, don't run into the jungle to put in a deep ward... either do it from a safe location (over a wall) or simply wait.

Roaming is very situational. You can do it if your adc goes back and you don't need to - run mid-lane and try to gank. Also after you get bot turret down, you can roam a lot more... just make sure you ward around bot lane if your adc is still trying to push there. Roaming works best if you follow your jungler when he's ganking. Otherwise stay with your adc... if you got him fed, he will think he can take on anybody himself and will start feeding...

Only attempt to save teammates if they are worth saving. If they are on a killing spree and you can save them, do it. If they are feeding and being chased by 4 enemies, you are better off pinging your team to group in another area to get objectives (turret, dragon, baron). If it's a small skirmish (2v2 or 3v3), you should be there unless you know they will surely lose the fight.

Punishing the enemy in lane is what shows your ability as a support, so you probably want to work on this the most. Mostly it's when the enemy adc goes to last hit a minion, you then hit him while he is still in his attack animation. With a spell, auto attack, etc... whatever is safest. Watch your minion wave health bars carefully. Also if the enemy mispositions, misses important skillshots (like a Blitz hook or Morg binding), you can attack them in relative safety because they lost their main ability and will be busy running away. Be aware that if you miss YOUR abilities, they can do the same thing to you...

Lastly, if you have time, try to find support streams or videos of high level support players and watch how they play the laning phase. I personally learned a lot from Spellsy, but I don't know how active he is anymore.

Sonasaurous4/2/2015, 4:08:40 PM3 votes

I main Sona and Janna support...mostly Sona though. I'm starting to do everything with Sona...

Beware: I typed a novel.

Anyways, as a support, you need to focus on two things: warding and keeping your ADC alive. But even within those two things, there’s a lot of subcategories that go into them, like a bunch of millisecond decisions you have to make.

For example, when warding, you need to make the decision whether or not it’s worth the risk. If the enemy team is pushing you to your turret and you haven’t warded the river yet, chances are you are not warding that river until after you get the enemy off your face, and when you do ward the river, you should follow the buddy system (I usually ward near the crab and ping for the ADC to ward the small bush, and if I have my sightstone I will also ward the bush closer to the blue turret; it only really takes two wards to keep the river in vision, and I find that warding the river rather than the bush gives overall better vision—take a red trinket to take out the enemy wards in the small bush). However, you only need to follow the buddy system if your lane is under pressure because the jungler might come and try an early cleanup. Any other time, so long as the lane is NOT too drastically pushed in any other direction, you can pretty “safely” go and ward the river yourself (the jungler is more unlikely to gank a lane that isn’t pushing). But again, if you need to ward the river but your ADC is about halfway on HP, leaving the lane probably isn’t the greatest idea because that gives an opportunity to the enemy to jump on your ADC.

So basically: Be smart about when and how you ward.

Also, it’s very important to keep tabs on dragon. I normally start pinging that we should jump on that when I see the jungler has hit level 4, because I know he’s not gonna get to it until a few minutes later. However, I do feel it’s important for the jungler to be warding on the enemy side of the dragon area so we can get an idea of where the enemy jungler is. Most often than not, the jungler ignores me and I’m usually on the team that won’t focus dragon (or objectives in general…I’m in a bad place right now), and there’s simply only so much you can do to carry the game as a support.

As for keeping your ADC, you have to consider that sometimes you simply can’t. You might be stuck with an idiot who keeps trying to tower dive at lvl 3, or isn’t paying attention to your wards you so carefully placed (or your warning pings) and gets ganked, or focuses too much on poking than farming. I find that Janna is good to be paired with morons because she can at least peel the enemy off the ADCs face and give them an OP shield pretty early on, while Sona is my beloved “ks sup” (in this case, the “ks” means “kill secured”, because by all means, if I set up a kill for you with my OP Sona and you as the ADC don’t take it, I will. Don’t complain at me, I always ping). Then there is to consider: if the ADC is going to die regardless of if I go back there and try to save them in vain, but I can get out alive, do I go back? The answer is most often “no”, because you will likely die and that will give the enemy one very avoidable kill. The exception is if the ADC managed to get the enemy’s health down low enough that you can finish them off (bonus points if both the supp and ADC are low enough that Sona’s Q gets them both and you get a double kill. Trollolol OP Sona <3). Contrary to bronzie belief, supports are NOT expendable. Their deaths still make the enemy team stronger, so they should focus on not dying just as much as every other role. Knowing if you can secure the kill (again, “ks”) or not entirely depends on your knowledge and comfort level with the champion you’re using. Like, I know when I can get kills and get out alive with Sona almost every time, and I take what I can get when I get it, but not so much with Nami or Soraka or even Janna because I don’t play them nearly as aggressively (Janna’s damage on W still surprises me sometimes because I play her more as a utility supp than an AP supp).

Supporting in a lot of ways depends on how good the ADC is and how well you two magically synergize in game. If you don’t synergize, that lane is never going to work because you guys simply aren’t on the same page. Most often than not, I find that when I’m behind in gold, it’s because the ADC is behind in farm, so I do think it is fair to say that the support is as good as the ADC.

Aside from that, you mention how you don’t know when to engage. Unless you’re playing an engaging support, like thresh or blitz or Leona, then you shouldn’t be worrying about engaging. Sona and Nami’s ults can be used as an engage, but they’re better used during a teamfight to temporarily disrupt the enemy team to give your team an advantage. Janna’s ult can be very difficult to determine when to use, as it’s a heal for her team and a disengage. I often find successful uses of Janna’s ult when I’m actually in front of the retreating enemy team and I use it to push them back towards my team chasing after them (which works very well with Janna’s passive speeding up her teammates), but not every play works out that way. Most of the time, I’m using Janna’s ult defensively to save my dying team during a fight, so it’s mostly a disengage. By all means, save the engage for the tank and focus on what you, as the support, need to do to help your team (especially if you’re Janna or Nami, consider who needs your E the most during the fight, or which teammate is being focused and needs a disengage? You have more things to worry about during the fight than before it even starts).

As for roaming, as a support you should be 1) roaming with your ADC, preferably after you got bot tower, or 2) roaming to mid lane to at least place a ward, if they don’t need help, when bot lane is empty and you have most of your HP and MP. Supports are best when they’re sticking with their teammates, and when you’re roaming when you don’t have to, you’re missing out on gold and exp you could be getting by being in lane (though sometimes after we capture bot turret and the ADC goes B, instead of pushing bot solo like a moron, I go to mid lane and help out with that tower or follow the mid laner to top lane)

I'm sorry, I feel very passionate about supporting. XD By no means am I the best support, but it's my favorite (if not most aggravating) role to play.

bad arcade kitty4/2/2015, 4:59:29 PM2 votes

the best supports it's those who never pick support if they can get mid or top

at least they know the limits of other champions which quite a lot of 'support mainers' don't

Takeuchi 174/2/2015, 3:34:17 PM1 votes

its really not up to a supp to "punish" an enemy, more of capitalize on their mistakes. depending on the champion you pick and the champion the opponent support picks will determine whether or not you will be aggressive or passive. i usually go a more aggressive route but my supp pool is rather limited (thresh, leona, sona are the main supps i play).

with leona i concentrate more on just staying back, constantly moving around minions and last hitting if necessary, and dont engage until i have my stun and grab. after that ill jump in once early to shake them up and then play a little more passively until I have my shield and my adc is a little more built up to dish out damage

a champion like thresh i play aggressive from the start. i zone by using my ranged aa to hit the enemy supp and adc as well as constantly move to make them move to avoid my q. if they make a single mistake i grab and pull but dont engage. i wait until i have flay and lantern to fully engage, so until then i just hook em, pull em back a bit and let my adc hit them a few times.

a champ like sona i just poke with q for a while, making sure i hit the adc with the stacked q for the extra damage and i play a bit more passively with her until level 6 when i have ult.

regarding team fights i let my tanks engage first then follow through by either grabbing the adc or mid laner if i can with every ult, stun, exhaust i have. or i might engage the enemy team with something like a sona ult or a thresh grab/ult only assuming my entire team is behind me.

regarding warding in enemy jungle, i always do it when we take down a tower and push the wave up. this way if someone goes back to that lane they have vision to see if someone else will be coming to gank them while farming.

never "save" a teammate. provide them opportunities to escape. for example if they're engaging anything above a 1v2 dont help them unless its to throw a lantern to save them. if a teammate is running down lane from the enemy ill help my engaging the enemy to let them escape by using stuns, slows etc.

regarding roaming its really circumstantial and i usually dont do it until late game. for example if someone is going off on a lane to take a tower and theyre deep without wards ill follow them to provide them with help in case the enemy decides to gank them. sometimes if my lane is pushed early ill roam to mid lane to help ward the river and then may be sit in the mid lane bush to see if i can help there (only after having sightstone and sweeping lens)

i always place a pink after my 2nd or 3rd back somewhere by my teams jungle in a place that an enemy jungler might try to gank or steal buffs

Itspure4/3/2015, 3:05:05 PM1 votes

Ya, I have the same problem and I also main support as Leona, Sion and Blitzcrank and I build as much armour and health as possible, I also play with my friends so we have a full team and if I do ask something like " I have ult, do you want me to (e) on them then ult" and I get yelled at. ALSO if I initiate the fight (like I'm suppose to do) they're like WHAT THE **** ARE YOU DOING!) and they just yell and yell and thats what makes me stagger in my performance. And ya I do miss my (q) or my (e) depending on who I'm play they just give me shit. Ya I do ward and things like that but when they say cover tower and I go to cover tower and I try defending it by attacking (let me remind you my adc is ganking and I'm alone bot lane) they're like (You suck you just sat their while they were attacking turret) and I wasn't, I was defending. If anyone has any tips please leave a comment. #Supportsforlife