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Rush Blade of the Ruined King on Twitch?

DeloricVI·4/18/2015, 7:25:28 PM·3 votes·3,911 views

So, I had another thread that was scatterbrained (just like me) asking about a few champions, namely Twitch and Xerath. I did get some great advice, but one of my bigger questions didn't get answered. That main question was about the item build for Twitch. I guess it has to do with me addressing the thread to Twitch and Xerath mains, so that would kinda be my fault.

I know that builds are sometimes builds can be "up to you" or your better judgement (e.g. you have Katarina mid and you're adc, you might want to consider a hexdrinker). However, it's generally well-established that most ADC's rush IE. Used to be Bloodthirster, but because of changes to the item people have switched to IE. However, some people in a recent match asked me while I was playing Twitch, why I built IE first instead of BotRK.

So, I looked up BotRK, and I don't really see anything inherently broken about Twitch and BotRK, other than maybe combining it with your stealth and/or ult... should I be rusing BotRK? I'm not an amazing Twitch player yet, so it's hard to say if I'm losing because of a bad build, or because... well, I'm bad, but I figured while I'm taking a short break from ranked, I'd get this cleared up, at least.

16 Comments

Orangesilk4/18/2015, 9:08:55 PM2 votes

Twitch has a terrible laning phase, so laning lifesteal is very welcome.

Twitch scales VERY nicely with AS.

Twitch NEEDS a panic button to escape when he gets jumped.

qetzel4/18/2015, 9:26:26 PM2 votes

Twitch's strength comes from mid game assassinations, and, if his positioning is perfect, late game teamfights.

The BotRK is used to improve his assassination. The active is useful for added burst. He also doesn't need as much AD due to his ultimate's steroid.

Twitch is actually quite hard to make work in soloqueue - take a look at some professional Twitch games (look up imp). The team sets him up with pink wards so he knows that he isn't seen before his stealth. He can become weak towards the late game (he makes it up super late though) if he doesn't get something from his mid game roams, so be careful and make sue they work.

RisenDarkKnight4/18/2015, 11:24:28 PM1 votes

Twitch is like vayne where he nees an item to start dueling people or he won't be able to fight until he has 6k gold. The power of bork as a one item wonder and it's active allows twich to roam with his q stealth and pick up kills. Just building an IE won't help you much in duels/teamfights unless you get really lucky with crits. If you get really fed early by all means go IE --> PD, but if not bork will give you the chance for picks and duels as well as sustain

Crett4/18/2015, 11:56:05 PM1 votes

Botrk isn't very good on Twitch late game in my opinion, the hyperscaling of AD way outscales botrk's passive

EndlessSorcerer4/19/2015, 12:21:16 AM1 votes

IIRC, Blade of the Ruined King and Youmuu's Ghostblade Twitch's first two items in many games.

His ultimate applies on-hit effects (Blade of the Ruined's King) to all enemies his, the actives synergize with his Q to make him very bursty, it gives him early lifesteal, and the actives can help him peel for himself (slow, MS buff) or escape. They are also very easy items to build early due to the low cost of the components and give him early lifesteal to sustain through lane.

That combination of items also gives Twitch a very strong midgame powerspike so that he can easily assassinate and pickoff enemies and contribute to teamfights.

Knucklefist4/19/2015, 1:00:45 AM1 votes

Personally I think adc's that have different procs for their auto attacks benefit the most from that item, at least up front. With someone like cait I'd rather start with something that uses a BF to make her q and ult stronger. AS is always nice on carries but I think the ones that have more poke would prefer the IE, while adc's like vayne that proc on hit effects would prefer the attack speed and lifesteal. Twitch poison stacks or something I believe. (if im wrong its because I haven't played him in ages) So more attack speed should equal more stacks faster. I'm only bronze so what I say isn't the gospel. That's just what seems to make sense to me.

BuPhDwhuln4/19/2015, 2:28:34 AM1 votes

Personally, I prefer Statikk into IE. People are talking about BotRK applies to all of his ult hits -- and they're correct -- but it's not very common that you'll be hitting more than one person that BotRK will deal noticeable damage against. Shiv, on the other hand, also builds up stacks for every target hit, so you'll be pumping out lightning every three / four auto's whether you're hitting champions, minions, what-have-you, and that will be felt.

Hinro Honato4/19/2015, 10:01:18 PM1 votes

botrk gives him AS lifesteal %damage and some ad and another slow. When you catch someone out you can remove them pretty easily and escaping him is not an easy task. and with the right position he can melt an entire team. You want to catch teams in the jungle and flank from behind while your team is engaging from the front. botrk simply gives so much to him that an IE just can't match for one item. 25% crit chance is not likely to do much until you get more items.

iluvalar4/20/2015, 7:16:31 PM1 votes

Actualy, BOTRK as been to go to item for about all the adc. I think it was in S3 ?

The balance between BOTRK, BT and IE is very small. It favored IE lately but only if there is no tank with the potential of carrying. Otherwise BOTRK is still the best option IMHO. Since the meta since cinderhulk is tilting toward more tank champions, I wouldnt be surprised if the BOTRK make a come back.

At the very least, if the top and the jungler are both tank, you should go for a botrk. Hope it help you make a choice.