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Not learning the game strategically, Help!

Peweed·8/5/2015, 10:52:00 PM·1 votes·567 views

Got little time to play due to work, still can dish out 4 games daily. I like to play ranked maining renekton top/ also can mid , mumu jungle , ali sup which helped me carry my 3 accounts to gold but i cant help feel Im lacking in game not mechanically but strategically.

Basic strategy while Im top is to win lane or roam if im losing. I usually take tp/ ignite to dominate lane which works in my favor most the time. If i lose top it also not bad since I have tp for objectives and split push. Ignite is also better late game against sustain opponents with lifesteal, reason i take it.

When I play support my strategy is to protect the back line or when we are ahead be the initiator. Also I try to deep ward whenever possible. When I play jungle I focus the lanes which are easy to gank and which have flash down. I dont waste time in ganks which are unsuccessful and priotise in farming and helping the lanes which are doing good, get even more ahead. Also I will give especial attention to hyper carries like kalista and nasus and make them get through the late game fair easily.

I also like being the shot caller in my team on getting objectives and help team on chat by stating timers on objectives and getting them in place to secure it even b4 its up. I avoid dragons when behind and focus Split unless we have good opportunity of a comeback. I do watch Youtubers regularly such as Scrapcomputer's detail guides and foxdrop jungle guides.

My true weakness would be my small champ pool as I keep changing them from smurf to smurf and forget how to play my old mains since I have tendencies of not playing them for a many weeks to master new champs. Although this has helped me vs champs such as irelia/nasus/leona due to my extensive knowledge on how they work and how to counter.

My builds are also dynamic and not the same everygame and works to match the situation.

TL:DR Just need advice on how to improve to be good enough for plat as I would like to play with higher skill players and improve my skills faster. ^^ Pls gimme some strat tips on top sup and jungle which are effective to winning games.

3 Comments

colesy8/5/2015, 11:17:54 PM1 votes

kallista isnt a hyper carry

kallista falls off like a brick late because she builds like zero crit

joebobby14128/6/2015, 4:41:13 PM1 votes

I am a plat V jungle/support main, maybe I can help. Also, don't assume I'm always right, could easily be wrong about some stuff.

The first thing is dragon. Dragon is huge. Most junglers can solo it pretty early, but you are putting yourself at risk if anyone walks past and sees you doing it. I would recommend getting the scuttle there before first back, so you know if they try to do it. Then, stay nearby it, look to gank mid/bot, or farm your jungle. If you see their jungler is top, go for it. Or, if your team manages to kill, or force out mid, or bot lane, go for it.

Now, you can't snowball dragons as easily anymore, since the enemy automatically get's the timer. (tip on that, if you know they are doing drag/baron, but can't contest- don't ward it. That just puts you at risk of getting caught and doesn't get you anything anymore). But, the best way for everything after the first drag is when the is <1 minutes till it spawns, make sure your whole team knows and is either nearby to help, or pushing top. (Preferably with teleport ready to go)

Drag control is mostly a jungler's job since you have smite which, other than some abilities is the best thing to secure dragon, baron, and your buffs. So, drag control starts with scuttle. Scuttle is great, it's jungle farm, it's a ward for drag, it's a speed buff, it's a ward for river, it's great for lifesteal if you have that. Anyways, always take scuttle. When scuttle is not up though, as the jungler you should ward dragon. This blends into support stuff, as support you should ward dragon. I'm not saying you need 2 wards on drag, i'm saying that whichever one you are playing, take the initiative on it.

Another tip, that you have probably seen, as the jungler, if you see a guy raging- camp him. Does it sound mean? It is. You are probably going to ruin his day, but it will make him more upset, throw him off his game and maybe even d/c.

If there is someone you know you are going to need to camp, like in champ select you see a Nasus pick. (doesn't even matter what team) Help ward that lane. So, if it's your Nasus hopefully it stays warded and he doesn't get caught. If it's their Nasus, you know if he warded it and you know if their jungler is coming for a gank/counter-gank.

So, I've mention you gotta do some warding. The laners have it easy, the get the yellow trinket, they upgrade it at level 9, they have infinite wards. You should be getting the red trinket, which means you have to buy wards. It is still super worth it. Now, if you can just barely afford to finish your jungle item, finish it. But, whenever possible get 1, or 2 wards.

^Not exactly an in-depth guide, but that's some stuff I consider pretty useful.