Riot still don't get a thing about little legends

Zemasu·Sep 9, 2019·13 votes·9,229 views

No one is buying them, i rarely see 1-2 bought little legends in every tft game. The reason is that if i want a little legends, i would shop it if i was sure to get what i want (the chroma doesn't mean a lot, but at least the character). Selling little legends in series, so that you have to buy the eggs, wich leads to a 1/3 chance to get the character you want, ruins all the shop experience. And no one wants the base skin, that you can't even power up by buying more times the same. Only fanatics, who will buy loads of eggs, or someone who likes every little legend of that set could buy random eggs.

Personally, I will buy a little legends when 2 factors will be reached:

Of course, a legend that i like (dark star themed, project or so)
Different eggs for different little legends, so that I will buy almost exactly what I want to buy.

Lastly, a PS: Weren't lootboxes like this illegal?

13 Comments

ExpertSockThrowSep 9, 20197 votes

That's the thing though. Only a tiny percentage of players need to buy in hard-core for the profit model to work. And I see about the same # as you every game- 1-2 bought Little Legends. Probably about 20% of the playerbase has gotten one they feel is worth using; more may have spent who don't like the outcome and won't be using their result, and a tiny percentage will whale into the hundreds and thousands to get what they want.

Gambling is extremely profitable for little effort on the company's part. That's why they will keep exploiting addicts, children, and regular old poor impulse control until the practice is made illegal.

Lootboxes are still legal in the US so Riot's only transgression is an ethical one at this point. If I could have bought the moon-tipped hushtail outright I absolutely would have. But I'm not going to spend a cent gambling for it.

KattzySep 9, 20193 votes

Man it would be nice to just buy the one I want in the store. I am one of those people with poor impulse control so I've bought 3 of the 10+1 bundles and a couple of stand-alone eggs. I'd rather just spend my money on exactly what I want. :(

J EpsteinSep 10, 20192 votes

Right? I paid for a random chance to get a random LL and was fortunate I got a silver-wing like I wanted. I would pay more to max my LL out but it's random so why would i?

They released new Little Legends since then. I would pay to max my LL out or even buy a new one but I have no gaurentee of getting the one I want.

Guess RIOT doesn't want my money?

ToolmakerSep 11, 20191 votes

You are actually guaranteed to get the LL you want if you buy 54 eggs since they take the LL out of the pool if you max it and distribute the chance to get that LL evenly across the series. However, it is grossly overpriced.

J EpsteinSep 12, 20191 votes

guaranteed if you buy a random chance of getting the thing you purchased. So ironic. I hope this was sarcasm XD

ToolmakerSep 14, 20191 votes

Nah, go read the little legend egg guide.

"Series 1 Egg:

Legendary (5% drop rate, 30% chance for double drop) Epic (20% drop rate) Rare (75% drop rate) *When a Little Legend reaches 3 stars, it’s removed the table and its probability is equally distributed to all remaining Little Legends."

What you are really gambling is if you spend 265 dollars or less to get the egg you want.

So basically, you are potentially being forced to buy the entire series to get what you want.

J EpsteinSep 18, 20191 votes

I think we are saying the same thing but not sure? I was saying you aren't guaranteed of receiving a thing you purchased.

XxXGwanXxXSep 10, 20193 votes

"Only fanatics, who will buy loads of eggs, or someone who likes every little legend of that set could buy random eggs." That's what they want, gambling addicted whales that are going to litteraly throw money at them regardless of their financial situation. This is modern gaming in a nutshell, Riot just joined the other grEAdy assholes exploiting cAAApitalism.

I mean just look at NBA 2k20, this is what riot wants but they can't go that far without losing to many payers.

CHODES AND LOADSSep 10, 20193 votes

tft in a nutshell, everything is random my dude. even the stuff u have to pay for.

ToolmakerSep 11, 20191 votes

I'm not sure if it can be illegal since you are guaranteed to get all the Little Legends in that series if you spend 265 dollars or so. For sure, it is grossly overpriced, though, for what is closer to a chroma.

GipJoCalderoneSep 11, 20191 votes

Well that's the comeback for a free-to-play game, they have to profit from somewhere. Compares to the most money-making online video game DNF, you can see what money-grab really means.

haaaaaaalpSep 12, 20191 votes

You don't seem to understand how little legends work. You aren't the target audience and you aren't suppose to buy them. Riot doesn't care if you don't spend money on them because someone else will spend 4x the money you would have spent.

SurgicalStrikerSep 19, 20191 votes

I used to see 3-6 bought LLs per game, though it's dropped to 2-3 since last patch or two. Probably varies by rank how many you see. And i've seen guys with 2 or 3 stars, which means they dumped a lot of cash on them. Once their sales drop enough, they will change it a little (like guaranteed which ones you want), then once those sales drop enough they will start making the series 1 LLs available in hexcraft boxes. That's standard business practice, riot's doing exactly what any smart company would do. Despite how many people cry and complain. I won't spend money, but i won't fault them for doing the logical thing