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Blademasters is SEVERELY underpowered

TooEzJukedBaited·7/7/2019, 3:34:23 AM·4 votes·4,698 views

Don't get me wrong, the bonus from Blademasters is great! But trying to build to get that bonus will make you lose every time. Fiora is extremely underpowered. Gangplank is very weak. The stronger Blademasters you don't get until late game and by that time you are lacking so much health one loss and you'll lose. I've even tried to use other comps like Nobles early game and then selling to replace them with Blademasters, but that also leaves me at a disadvantage as some early game champions are very hard to get late game.

So you're basically left with trying to build a temporary team of Nobles (or whatever you want for early game) while also trying to build a team of blademasters on your bench which kills your economy.

The PBE shows a lot of changes to items and Demons, but nothing about Blademasters.... I really hope Riot does something about this!

TL;DR anyone who likes Blademasters is at a HUGE disadvantage.

10 Comments

Leo Umbra7/7/2019, 3:58:54 AM4 votes

I wrote a long post about 6 class buffs and devoted an entire paragraph to blademasters. Draven has nothing to do with blademasters. There are several other problems with blademasters not dependent on single units.

One of the bigger issue is that blademasters are actually all melee except for draven of course. An all melee comp simply doesn't work. All melee will get destroyed by just one adc. You might say assassins are melee, but they have the burst to kill. Blademasters don't have burst. They are sustained, but making a sustained dps melee simply doesn't work. They will get wrecked by any aoe. They will get wrecked by sustained adcs because they have to get in range to even hit them. Yet blademasters are designed to do damage so they aren't tanky so what you get is the worst of both worlds.

It has nothing to do with draven. It has to do with the entire design of blademasters and how it fits into the game which is awful. Yet while blademasters are terrible after testing it's sad to think that there is something worse than blademasters. 6 knights.

peacepagoda7/7/2019, 4:38:47 AM2 votes

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Don't get me wrong, the bonus from Blademasters is great! But trying to build to get that bonus will make you lose every time. Fiora is extremely underpowered. Gangplank is very weak. The stronger Blademasters you don't get until late game and by that time you are lacking so much health one loss and you'll lose. I've even tried to use other comps like Nobles early game and then selling to replace them with Blademasters, but that also leaves me at a disadvantage as some early game champions are very hard to get late game.

So you're basically left with trying to build a temporary team of Nobles (or whatever you want for early game) while also trying to build a team of blademasters on your bench which kills your economy.

The PBE shows a lot of changes to items and Demons, but nothing about Blademasters.... I really hope Riot does something about this!

TL;DR anyone who likes Blademasters is at a HUGE disadvantage.

Your right on all accounts, plus they are easily CC where as rangers or gunslingers or even mages can pew pew from the back and get off their ulties or bonus damage, blade masters are focused fired and then CCed.

gonna flex on u7/7/2019, 5:17:31 AM2 votes

I've built 3+ blademaster comps several times and won. I'm pretty sure I've gone full blademaster and won at least once or twice. Yes Fiora is garbage. Don't go for blademaster early unless you can get a spatula and avoid using her. In fact, don't use her period. She's the most useless unit in the game and wasting a spot on her will lose you games unless the rest of your comp is absolutely disgusting.

Blademaster by itself isn't very impressive but the available synergies make it viable. Darius and Varus will get you imperial/demon. Later on Swain can do the same. Gangplank is the next weakest link after Fiora but his barrels can hit hard at 2-stars and he has the extra attribute so you can throw in a Lucian or Miss Fortune for gunslinger. He can also get you that juicy early gold lead if you go pirate for a few rounds early game. It really does help ramp up your econ.

Not saying they don't deserve a buff of some sort, just pointing out there are paths to viability.

Thefrostyviking7/7/2019, 2:08:05 PM1 votes

I´ve actually won or gotten second like 4 times outa the 6 i played a blademaster comp.

The times i did it though i think i started off with pirates and just sat on various blademasters until i could either obtain a Yasou or the spatula+bow to make one.

GP is actually super strong if you somehow manage to evolve him and toss a spare mana item at him, those barrels can actually cause mayhem if he lives long enough to use them.

But Draven is indeed the main carry for that comp usually so if you cant get him in or equip him its going to be really tough, although mixing blademasters+gunmasters and having a blademaster Graves with phantom and titanic hydra actually worked really damn well too.

NTrumpWeTrust7/7/2019, 3:38:17 AM1 votes

Blademasters are weak because draven is so unbelievably good. Not every unit is equally useful in every comp.

Ratpie7/7/2019, 3:06:13 PM1 votes

I think they work fine, you just can't focus on being just blademasters. I have won a bunch with blademasters, and it is one of my favorite. The key it to have it pair with other partial comps and spatula a carry into being a blademaster. I usually focus on another comp and slowly add in blademaster. Even the 3 blademaster bonus is monstrous if applied to the right people. One that worked really well was a 2 glacial and I blademastered Ashe with a spatula. She was absolutely nuts. Or double dragons and blademastering A. Sol, that was crazy. A really strong one is 3 assassin, 3 blademaster + whatever else you can fit. Blademaster Pyke. Blademaster Pyke with SoS is something scary. Blademaster Gnar is something special too.

I have had rounds where I went full blademaster, but it is usually based off other comps helping initially and then transitioning.

In all honesty I think it is the same for any 6man comp though. If you try to shoot for any of them straight off you are screwed. But if you lean on mixed comps until you build to them it is always better. I went for 6 sorc combo, but I leaned on Wild until I could build it but then I kept wild and my sorcs were machine guns. Nobles can't win by themselves either unless your competition sucks. The only ones that can solo win frequently are glacial or assassins, but if you play vs hybrid comps, they will shred assassins and glacial if that is all they are going for. So blademasters is really no different. BUILD HYBRID every time.

Kuponya7/7/2019, 7:29:26 AM1 votes

They aren't overpowered, you just have to build units to support them like Lulu or Kayle or other CC heavy units. Aside from Fiora, each blademaster is quite strong solo

shapesifter137/7/2019, 12:10:41 PM1 votes

In my experience, the way to play Blademasters is to not play Blademasters.

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/teamfight-tactics/4At4eE0b-tft-magical-christmas-land-blademaster-gunslinger-shenanigans

Make your carry a Blademaster.