Hi, I'm a Kennen main that just hit level 30. I've been playing a few games to get ready before jumping into ranked, and I was wondering if someone could take a look at a replay with me and point out some mistakes I made? I would really appreciate the help. Thanks in advance to anyone who replies to this, my IGN is Darude Maelstrom. Thanks again! :)
Hiroki491 votesCongrats on getting 30! If you want to get into ranked, you can one trick Kennen, but you should try to pick up one more champ before you start ranked so that you can still win the game if Kennen gets banned, or if you are facing a Kennen counter.
As for the replay; are you talking about the victory or defeat game? Honestly, if you really want to see what you have incorrectly, you should watch replays of a loss instead of victory. All the replays in the link are of victories which isn't a bad thing, but you won't notice certain/key errors in your play if you just watch replays of your wins.
Ghostrikz1 votesCongrats on getting 30! If you want to get into ranked, you can one trick Kennen, but you should try to pick up one more champ before you start ranked so that you can still win the game if Kennen gets banned, or if you are facing a Kennen counter.
As for the replay; are you talking about the victory or defeat game? Honestly, if you really want to see what you have incorrectly, you should watch replays of a loss instead of victory. All the replays in the link are of victories which isn't a bad thing, but you won't notice certain/key errors in your play if you just watch replays of your wins.
I can play Ezreal ADC, Graves or Rek'Sai jungle also. Though I would prefer to just play Kennen xD As for the replay, whichever one I could get the most information from. I'm not sure how I did in the loss, but in the 5/3/6 game I think I did alright. Also speaking of that game, is there a reason I keep getting all gold - diamond players in normals? It's kind of annoying going against people who have so much more experience than I do.
Hiroki491 votes[{quoted}](name=Darude Maelstrom,realm=NA,application-id=K6EGEal2,discussion-id=XxlArVa1,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2016-08-15T03:31:26.185+0000)
I can play Ezreal ADC, Graves or Rek'Sai jungle also. Though I would prefer to just play Kennen xD As for the replay, whichever one I could get the most information from. I'm not sure how I did in the loss, but in the 5/3/6 game I think I did alright. Also speaking of that game, is there a reason I keep getting all gold - diamond players in normals? It's kind of annoying going against people who have so much more experience than I do.
This is a long reply so stick with me:
A) What I meant from picking up another champ is by picking up a secondary champion for the position you play Kennen in. Kennan can go top/mid (and adc in pro play), so you should pick up another champ that can go well top/mid. Graves top can work but he will get poked out if you take him mid against most mages.
B) For the replays, I'm coming from a mindset where if I want to win the game, I am responsible to carry the game to victory. If I lose the game, it is MY fault. There is always something I could've done better to help the team win. I won't be able to see my errors if I watch a victory because I have the mindset of a carry andI know that I was a major player in my teams victory. If I review a loss, I notice how my errors throughout the game made us lose. I know there are sometimes where the enemy team gets fed off of other lanes and you lose hard; however even in those situations, there are still things you can do to help your team stay in the game.
Without even looking at a replay, but the match history from this game: http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2267169196/232594441?tab=overview&participant=5
I'm also looking at the clients' match history of this game to see where you died, and I also looked at some of your other games too to see trends. Here is what I found:
You were facing a Kha'Zix top, gave up first blood and Kha killed you 2 more times before the 8 min marker by himself or with the help from Yi. Since those 2 deaths were closer to red side leads me to think that you pushed your lane, and then the enemy Yi came in and ganked you. Since your ward count was 6 makes me believe this was the case since you didn't place many wards. Since you had 146 cs by the end when Kha had 281 tells me that you were most likely pushed out of lane often from bad trades, or you lost A LOT of farm from your 3 deaths before the 8 min mark. You died on red side toward red side, so after you died to Kha, he pushed your lane to tower so that the town would kill your farm, which means you lose gold and experience. So Kha will always be a few levels ahead of you, and if he wants to trade you will lose those trades every time because he is a higher level than you with higher stats & items. Looking through your other games, you placed 3rd or 4th for most wards placed for the most part. So something to work on is trying to be at least 3rd or higher in ward count every game. Whenever you trinket is up, use it. Vision is OP!
I might be totally wrong with what I listed above but I think the evidence is clear. Now I admit that I can't make a clear judgement on how well your gameplay is after early game with just this; however it is easy to see how your early game is with this information. Hope this helps you out a little bit with how to spot errors in your play.
C) The reason for getting gold or higher in normals is kinda a weird thing that I also don't fully understand. I do know that every player has 2 different mmr (MatchMaking Rating). One for ranked and one for normals. If a player who hasn't played ranked before starts to play ranked, the normal's mmr will be used until a ranked mmr can be made. if you are getting golds and higher in normals, that means that your normals mmr is high enough to be placed with golds and up. Also the golds+ on the enemy team might be playing with players of lower mmr so that their team average mmr is close to your team's average mmr.
I know it can be annoying to constantly be placed against players of higher skill, I can totally relate. Even though I'm gold it still is nerve racking to know that the other team has a high level player with them. If you use some other website to look at how good the enemy players are, ignore the players rank. It can mentally lose you the game if you know that the enemy player is higher than you.
Ghostrikz1 votesThis is a long reply so stick with me:
A) What I meant from picking up another champ is by picking up a secondary champion for the position you play Kennen in. Kennan can go top/mid (and adc in pro play), so you should pick up another champ that can go well top/mid. Graves top can work but he will get poked out if you take him mid against most mages.
B) For the replays, I'm coming from a mindset where if I want to win the game, I am responsible to carry the game to victory. If I lose the game, it is MY fault. There is always something I could've done better to help the team win. I won't be able to see my errors if I watch a victory because I have the mindset of a carry andI know that I was a major player in my teams victory. If I review a loss, I notice how my errors throughout the game made us lose. I know there are sometimes where the enemy team gets fed off of other lanes and you lose hard; however even in those situations, there are still things you can do to help your team stay in the game.
Without even looking at a replay, but the match history from this game: http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2267169196/232594441?tab=overview&participant=5
I'm also looking at the clients' match history of this game to see where you died, and I also looked at some of your other games too to see trends. Here is what I found:
You were facing a Kha'Zix top, gave up first blood and Kha killed you 2 more times before the 8 min marker by himself or with the help from Yi. Since those 2 deaths were closer to red side leads me to think that you pushed your lane, and then the enemy Yi came in and ganked you. Since your ward count was 6 makes me believe this was the case since you didn't place many wards. Since you had 146 cs by the end when Kha had 281 tells me that you were most likely pushed out of lane often from bad trades, or you lost A LOT of farm from your 3 deaths before the 8 min mark. You died on red side toward red side, so after you died to Kha, he pushed your lane to tower so that the town would kill your farm, which means you lose gold and experience. So Kha will always be a few levels ahead of you, and if he wants to trade you will lose those trades every time because he is a higher level than you with higher stats & items. Looking through your other games, you placed 3rd or 4th for most wards placed for the most part. So something to work on is trying to be at least 3rd or higher in ward count every game. Whenever you trinket is up, use it. Vision is OP!
I might be totally wrong with what I listed above but I think the evidence is clear. Now I admit that I can't make a clear judgement on how well your gameplay is after early game with just this; however it is easy to see how your early game is with this information. Hope this helps you out a little bit with how to spot errors in your play.
C) The reason for getting gold or higher in normals is kinda a weird thing that I also don't fully understand. I do know that every player has 2 different mmr (MatchMaking Rating). One for ranked and one for normals. If a player who hasn't played ranked before starts to play ranked, the normal's mmr will be used until a ranked mmr can be made. if you are getting golds and higher in normals, that means that your normals mmr is high enough to be placed with golds and up. Also the golds+ on the enemy team might be playing with players of lower mmr so that their team average mmr is close to your team's average mmr.
I know it can be annoying to constantly be placed against players of higher skill, I can totally relate. Even though I'm gold it still is nerve racking to know that the other team has a high level player with them. If you use some other website to look at how good the enemy players are, ignore the players rank. It can mentally lose you the game if you know that the enemy player is higher than you.
Thanks for all the info! Yeah I don't really do that well in the early game, I have a really aggressive playstyle. I've been trying to just farm safely with Q recently. Though I usually tend to pick back up in the late game (maybe not always in kills but in how useful I am). I think if I can practice just playing safe and pulling back in the early game and waiting for ganks, or to reach my late game spike for teamfights, I can do a lot better in my games.
Thanks again for all the info, it really helps :)
Hiroki491 votesI'm happy to help! ^_^
That is fine if you have a really aggressive play style; it is actually a good palystyle to capitalize on enemy mistakes in lane. When I want to go aggressive against my enemy laner, I try to keep a few things in the back of my mind:
Advanced thinking:
It may seem like a lot to keep track of, but it WILL get easier the more games you play. Champion spell cool downs are a lot to remember, I don't even know the specific times for some champions like Olaf cause I don't play him. I just think about what spell the enemy has that is the biggest threat to me, will most likely have cc. Again this will come with experience.
I admit, I'm not perfect, sometimes I forget to check some of these things like items, and where the jungler is, but just having a few of these rules down to the point of them being instinct makes the trades in lane go in my favor more often.
For you being a Kennen main, level 3 and 6 gives you a HUGE power spike cause you get all 3 skills to set up your passive stun. try setting up 2 charges to your stun right before you hit level 3, then when you hit level 3 your can level up and go get your passive stun off to deal more damage. Same thing for when you hit 6.
Jungler, creeps, levels, and warding should be doable for you. I promise that you will notice that you will come out ahead in the early game more often.
If you have any other questions don't be afraid to ask. :)
GL, HF in your future games! ^_^