4/3/11 Gold Shen LF Team

Armored Batman·10/4/2016, 8:46:34 PM·1 votes·845 views

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I've beaten Platinum 1/2 players in lane. I've been told by Dia/Plat players I will eventually get there, and its just luck. Well I'm 800 games in to this season and I think I need a team.

I tend to play well with a good assassin, especially . Turn that death in to a tripple kill!

Deranked from Gold V to silver 2 in one big losing streak. (won 2/15 games?)
I have a mic.
Changing major start of next year and I am on all the time.

Edit: Current KDA history since apparently people think my old one sucks...

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14 Comments

46310/4/2016, 9:05:30 PM3 votes

There's a little luck involved.

But when you're Gold 5 or Silver 2, and you " deserve " diamond, you should be at a 65-80% win rate.

It would make sense if you were at a Plat Macro / Micro level that you would crush low elo. So either you've been lied to, or you're the most unlucky league player this world has ever seen lol.

I'm an AD main, but I'm pretty sure I can teach you top to get out of Silver 2. Interested? I don't sugar coat my thoughts like these " smurfs " have told you.

Baby Chaeng10/4/2016, 9:28:01 PM1 votes

To be honest, I think you are no good than silver just by looking at your stats. I mean if you are bad with/against bronze, and silver players.. how are you planning to play with/against higher player. I was in Silver too. I thought I was good. I played with and against with my Diamond friends then I knew I was shit... like complete shit was not even close to their skills. So if you are in Silver is because you deserve to be in silver. But hey, 463 is D5 and maybe be can be a good coach.

GL & HF

Baby Chaeng10/5/2016, 1:32:17 AM1 votes

800games and still silver. There is a reason behind it. From Bronze to Silver anyone can carry _1v9 _even with feed since y'all elo hell.

HA HA X D

46310/5/2016, 4:56:43 AM1 votes

Possibly Shen isn't the champ you want, when you're looking for heavy impact / carry potential in low elo.

I think it's much easier with champions that punish the enemy team when they get the ball rolling.

Regardless.. I think " Elo hell " applies to certain types of people who have a mix of things going for them.

Bad MMR + Lack of ability to carry + Tendency to go off in chat + A lot of other sht that just brews this perfect recipe for keeping a consistent 49% winrate ( slowly dropping )

Despite what you're trying to convince yourself, in my opinion Shen might be your crutch playing at that MMR. And I've done Unranked to D5 many many times, if you were truly a Diamond level player or even Plat. Your stats would look a lot better than what they are now and your WR.

I don't know what else to tell you if you still believe you're a Diamond level player, who's 840 games into Silver 2 at the end of Season 6.

Shen can taunt ult and possibly split push.

But all in all, his kit seems more like the supportive / tank type. At this point, it would just seem to me like you're supporting these Silver / Gold MMR teams, which is something I would definitely advise against doing if you wanted the idea of you being a Plat / Dia MMR player to actually become reality.

I urge you to try something a little different. Maybe Trundle / Trynd / Kayle / Teemo

Teemo's taken me to Plat 1 when my smurf was still in Gold. Obviously he's a bit trickier to use after that, but my point is.. he's effective in lower levels.

Kayle is just the ultimate AoE shredder, paired with her constant up time of E and Runaans with passive. And when you hit level 6, most of the time you basically win all trades top coming out of the fight with a kill and have the ability to 1v3 1v4 the enemy with everything pieced together late game.

Trynd's split push is just massive in low elo and especially when everyone's mechanics are arguably horrid, they'll more than enough times step into range to die to your massive crits. Slow + Gap closer = Good bye squishy carries.

Trundle could be more of your play style as that control tank, but at the same time he's a beast duelist in lane and offers nice damage while at the same time being tanky. Also a great champion to just zone carries and at the same time peel for yours.

I'm trying real hard to shine some light for your situation and hopefully offer a different POV that may yield better results than 49% Winrate Shen in over 600 games. I'm not trying to offend you by calling your stats out, but seriously the reality is.. it doesn't seem like what you're doing is helping much to prove your point that you deserve Plat or Diamond this season.

Thrëat10/6/2016, 11:44:03 AM1 votes

Some people carry to Plat and Diamond and others get there by being carriable. Someone that got there by being carriable might have said you were Plat/Diamond quality but I can assure you that you are not. I'm Diamond 4 and if I go on a new account I have it to at least Plat 5 within a week by just doing the basics of what it takes to carry in SoloQ. If 800+ games later you are not there then something is wrong. To piggyback on that, if you have 617 games on your main champion and have a 49% winrate in an elo you think you are better than, something is wrong.

Anyone that is Diamond 5 quality will be able to get to at least Plat 4/3 before they need to even begin to try and usually won't start to get around a 50% winrate until Plat 2/1.

Anyone that is Plat 5 quality should be able to get to Gold 3 with relative ease.

If you are at Silver 2 after 800+ games with a 50% overall winrate then that means that you are where you belong. Unfortunately 'higher elo players' lied to you which may have made it so that instead of improving you simply spammed games thinking that you would eventually get lucky and reach Diamond; this is not how Solo Q works.

I see that you focus a lot on not dying, and that is actually great and all once you understand the whole game more, but winning is more than KDA. Sometimes to win a game you need to find opportunities where you sacrifice yourself for something that is bigger than yourself. Averaging an extra death or 2 per game but being involved in more plays or being more invovled in a play could go a long ways. If you are team fighting and pulling out as shen so that you don't die and it is costing your ADC to get smashed on then saving your KDA did nothing for your team. Theres going to be times when you need to sacrifice yourself to ensure a carry stays alive in order to clean up the fight. I can't even count the amount of times my team made a bad initiation and I was more than able to just flash out and recall but I instead chose to stay to my death to do everything possible to try to turn around the fight. Many times this caused my team to overcome a bad situation and run it up mid or get baron and turn the game around.

Worry less about thinking you are already a Plat/Diamond player since you are clearly not even a Gold player yet. Worry less about maintaing your KDA because you are clearly not having a big enough impact on games to carry. Consider adding some damage to your build because utility tank is actually weak in low elo. Think about what you can do to have a heavier impact on your games: Getting towers down fast is a must. Protecting your carries as a utility tank is a must. Doing damage if you want to more consistently carry your games is a must.

In the games that you win you do alright, but in the games where you lose you do almost nothing: In your last 1-3-5 loss you did 3.7k in 22 minutes. That was half of what the bard did. In your 6-2-9 loss you didn't protect your carry at all. On top of this you had the same amount of Gold as your Mid Silver team mates. If you are better than the elo you are playing in you will have more Gold than everyone else, win or lose. In your 4-5-16 game you again did almost half of the damage as the support sona.

You can ignore this whole post if you want, but this is coming from someone that has hit Diamond this season and last. There are definitely things you can change in order to climb. The first is your mindset. Once you think you are already better than you are then you are self-defeated. You never climb by thinking you are better than where you are because you don't put yourself in a learning mindset.

Thrëat10/8/2016, 12:01:09 PM1 votes

If you are giving the gold to your team mates and expecting them to carry you with it then it will take forever to climb. Don't give gold to other people when you can just take it and carry the game with it. At the same time don't go out of your way to take gold away from your team mates. You should be able to easily have a 2-3k gold lead on everyone else in the game in an average 20 minute game by just being a little more efficient with farming.

The elo you are playing in is actaully one of the easiest to 1v5 out of, it just takes changing your playstyle and working more towards just carrying and less towards relying on your team during laning phase and mid game. If you can't shut the game down by late game then you might need to start relying on your team mates a little bit for team fights unless you are ahead enough to where you can just ward it up and keep making picks to make it so the enemy team never wants to team fight.

When I smurf in low elo the last thing I want is a team fight because I know my low elo team mates aren't going to do anything that you'd assume or predict someone playing that role would do if playing correctly. Because of this I put in a lot of effort to make it so theres as little team fighting as possible. If I am really far ahead I'll just split push really hard so that they have to pull at least 2 people off mid to try to stop me. Every time they do this I'll decide if I can 2v1 and kill both, kill 1 and get away or if I need to just leave the lane and let the 2 people share the exp ( inefficient for them ) top while pushing me out of lane. At this point I decide if I can buy something that will help me be able to 2v1 ( Being able to 2v1 almost guarantees you a win ), or if I need to farm somewhere else while watching the minimap in order to go back to split pushing.

If you are ahead, which you should easily be if you are better than your current rank, team fighting is not a priority because the enemy team will focus you and you'll have 5 people all trying to burst you down. Team fighting is really only good in low elo if your team is already losing bad and you happen to have a team comp that might do well in a team fight, but then you are risking losing the game or getting deeper in the hole because of the team fight.