Boards›Maps & Modes

5v5 summoners Rift Co-Op Vs AI player bot warning to newer players

Cha0sr1pper·10/20/2014, 9:16:27 PM·15 votes·6,651 views

i was just playing a 5v5 beginner rift AI match, and there were three players using a bot macro. the game gets very hard indeed when three of your allies have a 0/10 or higher KD ratio, and they are all hanging out in middle lane tower diving. if your New to the game, make sure you do it with a friend until this issue is resolved. i attached a JPG to show what i mean. look at the bottom three players with whited out names. they all have the same 2 summoner spells, they all bought very VERY bad items, or they bought unique items and multiple copies, when unique items don't stack, and they all have 0/10 or worse KD ratios. During gameplay the characters ran down middle lane, and if they didn't die to the Annie bot, they died to the tower, as they would just run in and beat on it until it killed them. skilled players MAY be able to pull out a win, but unskilled or new players will have a hard time.

Bottom line, when your first starting, play with friends. if you have no choice but to play CO-VS-AI however, try to make friends with the actual players that team with you, and report the bot users for the bad team-mates they are.

please be aware, i blotted out player names only because it was the right thing to do.

20 Comments

7ha7guy77710/21/2014, 1:42:02 AM8 votes

i've seen them in level 30 intermediate bots. this isn't just a low level problem, but it's much easier to deal with at higher levels compared to when you literally just started playing

Lao Fu the Tiger10/21/2014, 3:37:20 PM4 votes

I dunno, that Singed build looks pretty solid.

Zen Fury10/20/2014, 10:17:31 PM2 votes

Unfortunately there's no way to easily screen for bots. Sure, this version of the bot might be easier to detect (indeed, it appears to be poorly written) but if someone puts some effort into it they'd be able to write a bot that could effectively beat AIs. At that stage, how do you detect the bots vs. regular average (or sub-average) players?

Some players don't use chat. Some players only play bot games. Behavioral filtering is a tough task, especially if the bot creator adds in some semi-intelligent randomization.

Cha0sr1pper10/21/2014, 1:38:51 AM2 votes

the game gets hard (For a NEWER player) when a caster, even a bot, even on easy, has the gold from 20+kills as well as basically free farming a lane. also, its not the average or sub average bots that are a real problem in CO VS AI, even the most atrocious players are helpful in some way or another. however when you supposed teammates are quite literally running into a tower, and attacking it with no creeps with them, or even worse, with an enemy hero plugging away on them, that is something else entirely

also, it may just be me, but even if i never touched the chat system at all in game unless absolutely necessary, i would still say something if two players were saying i was a bot, if for no other reason than to prove i was not one. myself and the other human player were talking about it off and on the whole game, and warned them several times that we were going to report them if they didn't respond.

World of Warcraft has had bot issues for ever, and that is one of the ways that blizzard employees find players that are using a bot. They give them a warning to respond within a Certain timeframe or they will be Suspended or even Banned.

im not saying a beginner bot game would be hard for even less then average players, but if you've only played a few times, three people feeding a single bot can be the cause for a loss for a new player. I dont know about anyone else, but the first 3-4 times i ever played, i would have been very disheartened indeed.

NeroUS10/21/2014, 4:15:06 AM2 votes

Not enough tears on the rift.

Fixed by the bots.

Der Lindwurm10/21/2014, 3:43:27 PM2 votes

Here's an ARAM match from a couple of weeks ago with 1 human and 9 bots.

ZyyyZ10/21/2014, 4:47:32 AM1 votes

I have played hundreds of coop vs. ai and I can't recall seeing these "bots"....I've seen a lot of newbie players though. mostly they feed a few kills and then go disconnect.

If there is one thing I know on this account, that is coop vs. ai.

ZyyyZ10/21/2014, 12:18:40 AM1 votes

This is BEGINNER bots. How does the game get hard? Other than some extra xp, the AI don't really get extra items if they get 10 kills in the first 5 minutes and they push tower REALLY slow. New players have the option to play intro bots up to level 10 for full IP which is even easier.

Cha0sr1pper10/25/2014, 11:42:39 AM1 votes

its not so much protecting them from riot, Catsup, its protecting them from other players griefing far more then a bad bot would, but i see your point.

NeroUS10/21/2014, 6:49:27 PM1 votes

I wonder how they pick which items to buy?

Cha0sr1pper10/21/2014, 7:10:08 PM1 votes

@ZyyyZ the bots im talking about specifically, have only been showing up the last few days for me anyways, and only in Beginner CO vs AI. i haven't noticed bot players anywhere else personally, but i think thats because i'm not that great vs normal players anyway, having not played in a very long time, and i'm Likely only slightly better then the bots are xD

@NeroUS if i had to guess, id say they pick 3 or four items, and set the bot to just buy those when it has the gold to do so. but i'm not a programmer, so i have no idea

Ricje10/22/2014, 4:58:33 PM1 votes

I had a bot in one of my games last week. Reported him @ Support and attached my replay file. He only "played" for another day and hasn't done anything for 7 days now. I suggest you do the same and they'll most likely get hit by the banhammer as well.

Funfact: We were talking about him botting when he suddenly started talking 25 minutes in. He was chatting while the bot was still playing and casting abilities ;') Guy claimed he was a "junior" and was "following people around for fun" etcetera :D Gotta love the kids that get caught and deny botting.

Seth the Bum10/21/2014, 2:26:01 AM1 votes

I was playing vs Intermediate bots today and two of my own team were bots as well. Then one of the other actual players lost connection, or more likely, just decided to quit instead of dealing with the hassle. Thankfully one bot "AFK'd" to compensate for the disconnected player, but it still ended up essentially being 2v4 the whole game. We still won somehow, but bots are getting annoying if for no other reason than it ruins the more social aspect of League.

Catsup Watsup10/24/2014, 2:33:18 AM1 votes

please be aware, i blotted out player names only because it was the right thing to do.

Protecting rule-breakers is the right thing to do? Well, it's not like Riot would do anything if you showed their names.

Botting is a way to earn free in-game currency. If you could theoretically hack the game to give yourself RP, Riot should be okay with that too. They should be MORE okay with that, since you wouldn't be griefing other players to do it. summoner 6 summoner 7

(My ISP sucks too much to play pvp, and people scripting waste my time on AI games)