ARAM dodging

ZerglingOne·10/9/2015, 12:13:35 AM·7 votes·1,023 views

Is completely out of control and needs to be brought into line. I automatically know every time I've got a good team there's a 50%+ chance there's going to be a dodge on the other team because "waaaah I don't want to play Olaf, Aatrox, or Tryndamere. WAAAAH"

If you dodge, there needs to be a complete stripping of rerolls and then they should be forced to play the champion they dodged on, no reroll, no trade. There needs to be a real dodge penalty for ARAM because it is in essence cheating the system. Yes there's a wait period, and if I recall it starts at 15 minutes, but it's still not enough because people still do it nearly every time I queue up for ARAM with friends.

It's ARAM, not "I dodge if I don't get "

12 Comments

IlyaK198610/11/2015, 6:52:05 AM3 votes

Would you rather have someone dodge an ARAM game, or waste 20 minutes getting crapped on?

DrCyanide10/9/2015, 2:34:12 PM2 votes

I think the biggest thing that would prevent dodging is if you keep the same champion.

Furthermore, you can't queue multiple people who have dodged together. This avoids conflicts of multiple people having to play the same champion next game, but it also prevents people from "stacking the deck", having everyone in their party play solo until they role a very good ARAM champion then dodging, then queueing up knowing what 5 champs they'll get.

Kholdstare1310/9/2015, 2:24:30 PM1 votes

Dodging needs 3 things.

1: MMR penalty. If you give up before the game even begins, count it as a loss. Bump the dodging freelo abusers back down to their actual skill level.

2: Forgiveness rework. Currently frequent dodging is forgiven after waiting a day. Just a day. Why should it count like that? Have it accumulate like leaves. Only decrease the severity upon completing several games. Frequent repeated dodging is the problem, and a free daily wipe and penalty reset helps nothing.

3: Penalty rework. The main thing dodgers do is to maintain multiple accounts so they can hop onto a different one while they wait out the dodge timer on another. Make it only tick down while logged in.

BastionKross10/9/2015, 2:38:25 PM1 votes

I'd say it depends on the reason for dodging. If someone gets stuck with a derpy ARAM champ with no rerolls, then dodges, then yes that deserves punishment. You inconvenienced nine other people because you rolled up Eve. Not cool.

But if someone dodges because their whole team is full of derpy ARAM champs, that's pretty acceptable to me. The main purpose of ARAM is to have fun, and it's difficult to do that when your ass is getting handed to you for 15+ minutes through no fault of your own but bad luck. While uncommon, sometimes you can take a look at your team comp and know that this will not be a fun game of ARAM.

You can also infer that if you ever get a really good or really bad team, your opponents probably didn't. Since champs can't be picked twice in ARAM, if your team rolls up a godlike ARAM champion like Sona, you take Sona away from your opponents even if they reroll. If your team comp looks like crap, the enemy team's probably doesn't because your team took away 4-5 bad champs for them to roll up.

So unless Riot lets you reroll for your entire team with some new mechanic, dodging can be a useful tool for ARAM games that you can reasonably assume will be heavily stacked against you and you won't have any fun with.

Akiyume10/9/2015, 3:00:41 PM1 votes

Whereas it's true people dodge because they get a champion that's seen as weak (everyone Evelynn in ARAM has to complain about her being useless) but sometimes they just have to go or something. It would be nice if we could make a difference between them, but I guess we can't.