Why isnt there a team builder for ranked yet?

Legendairee·2/17/2015, 2:49:49 PM·11 votes·1,480 views

I'm sure people have asked this before, but why not? I understand the argument of counter picking, but theres a simple solution for that. Everyone picks a role, but not a champ.Your team gets shuffled around and paired with another team. The counter picking still can occur, and MAYBE your team will even have enough time before picks and bans to communicate who they want to ban and what type of team comp they want (seige, poke, split push, carry-centric).

When 5 people get randomly paired together with distinct roles, it will cut down on the toxicity that you see in champ select. Also it will lead to a much better in-game experience for people.

The argument that you want to get players to experience more than just there favorite role is a weak one at best. If I want to learn how to support more effective, ranked play is not the forum to do it in. Normals are.

I would gladly wait on a 5 min que to get the role I want, than to get stuck with a role I am not fond of playing, and be forced to play 30-45 minutes. Yes forced is figuritive here. I realize you can dodge for 5 point loss. but if thats your counter argument, this whole thing has gone over your head.

24 Comments

Gusto2/17/2015, 5:07:48 PM2 votes

I think being a jack of all trades to fit your teams needs is an important element of ranked right now

Daryush2/24/2015, 9:19:13 AM2 votes

Riot can u plz answer us! **Why isnt there a team builder for ranked yet? **

disregardable2/17/2015, 3:40:48 PM1 votes

It would increase queue times by far more than 5 minutes. No one would sign up to support. They'd sooner attempt go into draft and hope to not get stuck with it than wait or take support.

Woodakoodashooda2/17/2015, 4:09:49 PM1 votes

People could call a role just to fill a team only to demand another role. Think last picks auto-locking as something that cannot possibly function as either a support or a jungler.

This issue could be dealt with by giving team captains the authority to kick players before game start, but this would increase wait times for games.

Team captains could select bans before entering the queue for players and players could be added to the roster who've selected champions not banned by either captain, but then players would always select popularly banned champions and diversity in ranked would be further ruined by the fact that team captains would be forced to leave meta-picks unbanned, making bans utterly pointless.

Ranked is a lottery system in which your best bet is to find a duo partner so as to alleviate at least 20% of the crap that goes on in solo queue. Else, cross your fingers and hope you aren't strong-armed into filling a role you're terrible at and spending 45+ minutes feeding.

Of course, what do I know? I don't play ranked because it is a worse hell than the boards make it sound.

1999 01 172/17/2015, 6:19:39 PM1 votes

how are you going to do bans then

Killer X 122/17/2015, 11:44:17 PM1 votes

I mean, i don't play ranked anymore so it doesn't have anything to do with me, but idk why anyone would want to wait like 20 mins to get a game as mid lol

catastrophicSkil2/18/2015, 12:48:17 AM1 votes

There are a few reasons why we will probably never see team builder in ranked

  1. it will be easier to setup pre-mades for teams if it works anyway similar to the current team builder
  2. You are forcing a meta which would limit the game AKA making it less fun
  3. In the case of higher elo you will run into longer Q times which is already a big problem and this will also limit the players you play with meaning that if you are a jungler chances are you will NEVER play with any other junglers.
  4. With each season some roles become more scarce than others for the most part majority of players don't want to play support it is a role that is usually filled by last pick

If you wanna do team builder in ranked search on the forums for 4 other people and go do ranked 5's

Because the game itself is free doing that would also cause riot to lose money lets face it why would you bother buying champs or skins for roles you don't have to play because of team builder

Legendairee2/17/2015, 3:15:39 PM1 votes

bump

COWmanLord2/28/2015, 8:27:36 AM1 votes

Pretty sure I saw somewhere that that is something they are currently working on. There is a bit more too it than just "que up for the role you choose" because its in draft rather than blind pick so bans and other aspects of draft affect it.

DrCyanide2/17/2015, 3:20:25 PM1 votes

Lyte mentioned that such a "team builder" would have people only calling roles. I personally can't stand the normal team builder, so I don't much care when/if it comes to ranked.