Given that Chem Baron Velveteen Lenare exists, what is so revolutionary about Viktor again?

SaltyToplaneGoat·7/24/2018, 5:09:28 PM·9 votes·6,454 views
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That woman literally replaced EVERYTHING below the neck with an artificial body.

Meanwhile our Grand Herald, the big MC of transhumanism and augmentation, has, like what? A third arm going out of his shoulder? Compared to Madame Lenare, that's quite a lame sight, don't you think so? Viktor really needs an upgrade in his designs, in a way that he really goes beyond the limitations of the human form - like, I'd totally trust him to make a body with four legs if he needs, or one with six arms for more effective tinkering - or one that turns him into a freaking behemoth. All at once, the forms can be changed during some time in the workshop.

But right now? He's the most tame of all zaunite augmenters I have seen. Give that guy more funds, he really has a LOT of catching up to do...

25 Comments

GreenLore7/24/2018, 5:23:28 PM17 votes

The revolutionary aspect about Viktor is that he augmented his own mind,not his body.

Viktor altered his own brain so that he feels less emotion and I think that is the revolutionary part of Viktors inventions.

redniwediS7/24/2018, 5:20:56 PM12 votes

Didn't Viktor augment his brain to some capacity? Also it's worth noting that he was the first, which gives him automatic importance.

It's not always about who is the most extreme. Viktor is supposed to stand in contrast, to both Piltover and Zaun. His way of thinking isn't really shared by anyone else.

Lintu Puck7/24/2018, 5:53:59 PM9 votes

Viktor has style

Ask the Herald7/24/2018, 9:48:06 PM7 votes

Yeah, I really don't understand what Viktor's purpose in Runeterra is anymore. He was originally the first of his kind - a transcendent who renounched his flesh in favor of superior technologies that could do what organics did better. He was a pioneer of transhumanism who appealed for everyone and everything to seek to improve upon their bodies and leave behind their biological flaws. He was a self-made success story, who triumphed over his detractors by simply doing outlandish yet brilliant and revolutionary things to show that he wouldn't be bound by anyone's narrow-minded standards.

But he's no longer unique. Everything that made him stand out as an icon has been supplanted from him and given to other champions. First hextech-augmented individual? Camille. First fully converted cyborg? Orianna. I mean, even his struggles have become cheap imitations of themselves. Professor Stanwick Pididly managed to steal credit for Blitzcrank despite not even working closely with VIktor at all in the new account? Like, seriously, Viktor basically pulled a Tony Stark on Blitzcrank's creation - he jury-rigged the steam golem together out of decommissioned automata for Evolution's sake! And then there's the Glorious Evolved, a cult of fanatical machine-worshippers who have taken his original ideals ("Join the Glorious Evolution" indeed) and perverted them for their ignorant dogma that is a far cry from what previous Viktor stood for (improvement of the self, believing in perfection of body and mind, adapt and evolve beyond the needs and weaknesses of the flesh, etc.)

Granted, he still retains his single-minded drive for improvement and progress to the point of forsaking all else. His new bio even credits him as a notorious workaholic who would rather die than be made to cease his work - "anathema" indeed. And I suppose his new depiction sets him up to be some sort of masterful machinist who has one of the single greatest talents for all things mechanical to ever live. But then you have Jayce, who is established as his rival and one of those who can actually match (or even exceed, if the warehouse confrontation and the brief tussle with the augmented assailants in "A Quick Fix" are any indication) his designs and works.

Meep Man7/24/2018, 7:42:21 PM3 votes

Viktor is also transforming the human brain. Remember his short story? He removed fear from the boy.

Also, Viktor is almost entirely cyborg dude. Not just a third arm.

Ebonmaw Dragon7/25/2018, 12:57:21 AM2 votes

Who said that she literally replaced everything below the neck with an artificial body... by herself?

It seems obvious that she had help, maybe even Viktor helped her to remplace her body.

In other hand, Viktor had no help with his new body.

6FlagsFunnelCake7/24/2018, 6:31:41 PM2 votes

The big revolutionary thing is Viktor's mind, he's augmenting his own brain to feel no emotion and achieve what he belives is 'perfection.'

And if replacing every part of your body with metal seems revolutionary to you... Orianna ?

Wrathof3007/24/2018, 6:46:55 PM2 votes

Viktor is asserting the upgrading of the human form via technology, not the superiority of robotics. He is enhancing his human capabilities, whereas Baron Velveteen is just a head on a robot. The closest to Viktor's ideology is Orianna who had her entire body augmented to compensate for her old body, but this is where she falls short she is more or less a robot mimicking human capacities, opposed to enhancing them, Baron Velveteen could fall in this category but imo Orianna is a step above her in terms of Viktor's Glorious Evolution.

SEKAI7/24/2018, 6:01:39 PM2 votes

He uses hextech instead of chemtech.

Maybe.

mrmeddyman7/25/2018, 5:44:52 AM1 votes

Also worth noting that Viktor is a revolutionary because of his belief system. Velveteen has augments for practical reasons, it says her old body was dying meaning she did this to herself out of necessity.

Tesla Effect7/24/2018, 6:02:17 PM1 votes

Viktor is removing his human emotions and is almost 80% robotic

Camille Ferrøs7/24/2018, 6:18:28 PM1 votes

This is what Camille could have been. This was a concept for Camille's look

DWT123457/24/2018, 7:17:19 PM1 votes

Everybody else it basically making steampunk prosthetics, Viktor is actually altering his mind and body with cybernetics, to make it perfect.

Chembaron Yamada7/24/2018, 7:21:31 PM1 votes

I just wish they would make her a champion, even if that is extremely unlikely. That design is just great.

Breezey Boy7/25/2018, 3:15:11 AM1 votes

Something tells me she wasn't a woman when she was still attached to her original body..

Tesla Effect7/25/2018, 3:20:26 AM1 votes

But looking closer I do think its not that she replaced her lower body its that she primarily only replaced her arms. The neck area is not the place where the head was placed, but the metal line is actually a very tight necklace.