Something that intrigues me regarding Mordekaiser's character

Malicious Metal··38 votes·4,688 views

One thing that struck me when reading through some of the new lore is that the "bad guys" are made to have at least a tragic past or a certain quality to them that can redeem them in some eyes. They're human, they're the subject of inner turmoil and them becoming "evil" is usually bound to a certain tragic event or twisting of mind.

And then there's Mordekaiser. The guy's lacking most of the usual human attributes and drives. He does not seem to love, to hate, to engage in human emotion. All he seems to care for is eternal Conquest and to bring Valoran to its knees, ruling it as a tyrant king with an iron fist. There isn't even a specific goal he seems to want to achieve (other than keeping his bones safe). He does not want to end all conflict by conquering the entire world like Veigar and he does not seem to actively want to destroy every living being.

He's a strange case of a being of pure willpower with only ONE goal in mind. Even when struck down he'll simply resurrect himself and keeps going, this very motivation to conquer all of Valoran being the sole reason for his continuous existence. He does not have any loved ones or friends, he only has puppets and tools he commands, he does not care if they would die for his ultimate goal. But what would happen when he DOES achieve his goal of conquering Valoran? Would his thirst be quenched and his soul finally pass on or would he seek to conquer other worlds and dimensions? Is there even a sliver of humanity left in Mordekaiser or is he just a revenant bound to this very purpose of conquest?

Has he lost what made him human in the wake of his death and subsequent resurrections? Did he lose more and more of his humanity with every time he was struck down and brought back from Oblivion? Is he just an Idea, no longer driven by man's various cravings? Did he just become Conquest personified without even knowing what to do when he finally achieves that single goal?

This may just be me overthinking it. He may just have ulterior motives we do not know about and him conquering Valoran is simply part of a bigger plan. Maybe he's the hero that will stand against the void with Valoran united under his banners?!!?!!! (I sure hope not)

One thing's certain though, Mordekaiser is an interesting character and one who can serve as the main antagonist for many story arcs; A being that lives and thrives on Conquest and whose will to dominate's the driving force behind his machinations. He is League's Version of Sauron.

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charcharmunro18 votes

Him and Jhin are probably the most "Evil because why not" characters. Jhin has some vague tragedy in his lines, but I doubt it's a big deal for him. Morde is just "I want to rule the world or destroy it if I can't", Jhin is just "I like killing." To use a trope name from TVTropes, they're the only two that fall under the "Complete Monster" trope. Void beings and otherworldly sorts don't QUITE count because they're basically evil innately.

Ceridran13 votes

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charcharmunro3 votes

Vlad I would argue has at least some level of purpose. He works for Noxus. Jhin may work for somebody, too, but it's more akin to "point the psychopath in this vague direction" and he doesn't seem to really care who he works for.

Spizzle90001 votes

I'd say Jhin is closer to a drug addict than Vladimir. Or at least a drug addict who's aware of their addiction. Vladimir definitely loves murder and the like, but doesn't seem to have any intent of trying to stop or even the thought that what he's doing is wrong. Jhin seems to want to stop, deep down (a Rioter said that, I think) and knows that he needs to, but he simply can't. Vlad is just like, "Blooooooooooooooooooood!"

some degenerate3 votes

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Him and Jhin are probably the most "Evil because why not" characters. Jhin has some vague tragedy in his lines, but I doubt it's a big deal for him. Morde is just "I want to rule the world or destroy it if I can't", Jhin is just "I like killing." To use a trope name from TVTropes, they're the only two that fall under the "Complete Monster" trope. Void beings and otherworldly sorts don't QUITE count because they're basically evil innately.

Going off-topic, but I wouldn't jump to conclusions with Jhin just yet. We don't really know a lot about Jhin's backstory yet to know if he's a victim of a typical "tragic, dark and mysterious past" trope that morphed him into the killer that he is, or if he was just always innately evil or psychopathic from the get-go due to faulty brain wiring from birth... IIRC, rioters have commented that deep down, that he actually does feel kinda guilty for what he does, that he knows he's a monster and that he even wants to be caught and stopped... which really... well, goes against the definition of full-blown sociopath - let alone a true psychopath... But I'm just going to assume that Riot turned to unreliable and sensationalistic entertainment like Dexter, Hannibal, Criminal Minds and the like than actual IRL cases or diagnostic criteria.

As for champions that are high up there on the evil list, I think DrMundo Singed Vladimir Thresh Warwick are all good contenders. Especially DrMundo, he always seems to go unnoticed. Old lore or not, the guy went so far as to torture and murder _his own parents _- not out of revenge or some emotional anger spree, but literally just out of amusement to see them suffer. If that's not pure evil, then I don't know what is.

As for Mordekaiser, while he was always innately evil, I suspect the curse of the shadow Isles unknowingly twisted his mind and his goals to such an extent that conquering and expanding the Black Mist is all he's intent on doing. Think Malzahar and the void - basically corrupted by a similar essence and is now nothing but a slave to spread that said corruption to the rest of the world. He just has no idea or grasp that his mind has been altered by it, regardless of his own beliefs; that he still has a sense of control or self.

charcharmunro4 votes

Thresh has the excuse that he was corrupted, Mundo has the excuse he's totally batshit. Singed is... More amoral than purely evil. He does not-evil stuff too. He's basically just interested in testing his stuff and getting paid. Warwick is probably the biggest "asshole" character, though. Vlad is kind of the same boat as Jhin, really, except... Less detailed.

Spizzle90001 votes

Except Vlad doesn't really have any intent to stop. Jhin knows he's addicted and sick and tells himself he's going to stop, whereas Vladimir just kinda kills people and doesn't give a damn about much besides his "art." Jhin is aware he needs to quit, while Vlad just keeps on killing for kicks and giggles without any remorse or problems.

Mhihnj2 votes

Void beings aren't necessarily evil. Void is a different dimension, and the beings there are highly primitive(Except Vel'koz and cho'gaths species) They can't exactly differ from good or evil so just follow natural instincts. So our definition of evil is basically there natural instincts

Wind Whistler1 votes

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Void beings and otherworldly sorts don't QUITE count because they're basically evil innately.

Disagree. Kog'Maw kills to eat, Kha'Zix kills to become stronger, Vel'Koz kills to gather knowledge, and Rek'Sai kills to defend her territory. Cho'Gath is the only one who's truly evil, since he kills to terrorize people.

Stars Shaper9 votes

The fact that he has no "redeeming" characteristic is what makes him the perfect Dark Lord. He isn't despicable, he is just going to crush your skull, reap your soul and conquer your land until everything is his.

Compare it to the most recent now-all-villain: Xerath. He had a tragic story and his former goal now has no meaning because "meh, I'm evil now" and even from the Q&A we can't get anything more than that he will repent on his last moments.

About what morde will do after, I envision him ruling his dark army maybe in the search for other places or dimension to conquer. Another chance is that he will take care of inside fights with great joy because this would just show every1 else who is the real emperor.

Cardinal Sinveil4 votes

Lol that reminds me of a story told in philosophy class. It is said that once Aristotle told his students Theophrastus & Alexander that the world was infinite, they both started crying. Theophrastus said that he is extremely limited in his observation of an infinite world when he has only 60 or so years to live (compared to a turtle or even a tree that have well over 100+). While Alexander cried when he learned that there are infinite dimensions to conquer, and he hasn't even succeeded in conquering this one.

Poor Mordekaiser xD

GreenLore8 votes

Honestly not all villains need some sort of tragic backstory or deep motivation. Sometimes a character is just a pure monster because he was born like that.

And I think they want Mordekaiser to be this kind of character.

Malicious Metal9 votes

And I'm SOOOO Ok with that. We really need a proper evil Overlord.

UomoAfide5 votes

Once he gets updated (one day) i'd really love to hear a reference to this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdEo_t-iVbM I guess it goes pretty well with who Morde is now.

UomoAfide1 votes

Yeah well, except for the Damsel in distress part... maybe...

Sonicblaster331 votes

That would be hilarious to see him being a damsel in distress. Then to trick the supposed hero and take his/her soul

Sonicblaster332 votes

when I see that, I can only imagine him going "Senpai is now mine!"

UomoAfide2 votes

Stalker Level: Mordekaiser

Malicious Metal5 votes

They can't say no when they're dead. Wait...

That sounded way too creepy

LordHippoman5 votes

Mordekaiser is interesting because he was very much from that period of League where there literally was no Lore, and then someone was like "oh shit uh he's a big evil bad man?" and sorta had to run with it. He's evolved a lot, he used to be like, a guy who spread plagues, he used to just hang out in the alleys of Noxus, then the Shadow Isles got revamped with the Elise release and he was moved there...he's had a lot of identities.

For the longest time he was with Shaco and Evelynn in that "They're evil and they're a mystery" camp, but with his new lore, Morde does have a backstory. And it is rad as hell.

Morde's not as, like, detailed a villain as someone like Xerath or Swain. He doesn't have a tragic backstory or a dark past. Mordekaiser is just a really good fighter who was SO GOOD AT KILLING SHIT he made some wizards cast a ritual to make him immortal...and then killed them. And then he continued just destroying everything in his path, literally at one point in his lore on top of a mountain of corpses, with a giant mace called "NIGHTFALL".

Mordekaiser is the cover of a metal album. Mordekaiser is the bad guy you'd see doodled in your old 8th grade textbooks. And that rules, because he owns it, and his lore just runs with it. He's over the top, yes, but it's just fine because his character, his voice, his appearance, they all kinda embrace it.

I'd like to see him in more stories, though, because he's probably got some interesting plans, like the OP brings up and summarizes really well.

Mistress Madoka4 votes

I imagine Mordekaiser is a Being of Pure Conquest. He's Greedy, Cruel, and fucking awesome. He will keep coming back to Conquer the land untill he has it all. But he wouldn't stop at Valoran. He'd Take all of Runeterra. Then He'd take the whole Runeterran Star System. Then He'd go for the whole damn Galaxy. And then the Universe. And once he had all that, He'd Go Conquer the Void. He'd Subjugate Kindred's Realm of Death, and Gain Immense power. He'd be Unstoppable. And as soon as he had Everything, He'd MAKE more stuff to conquer, because He Literally CANNOT STOP.

Mistress Madoka3 votes

"Star Emperor Mordekaiser" The new Antagonist To fight the Star Guardians, with his Minions, "Dread Star Yorick" and "Star Plague Karthus"

Papa Andrei2 votes

Legion Commander Yorick*

Neamean2 votes

Yorick who?

The Last Ballad1 votes

Looks like Star guardian Syndra and Leona (Lissandra? Morgana? Shyvana? any other female champ who's name ends with "_a"?) will be opposing him?

Jacknife4 votes

Tired of tragic backstories to every character you play? Tired of being in the ambiguous gray area when black just looks so much better on you? Join the immortal army of Mordekaiser today! (Therearenobreaksthereisnohopethereisnoend.Afterlife-insuranceisnotguaranteed.Huehuehue.)

Also where did you get that picture? I have scoured all of the google's for reference art and I have never come across that one. I neeeeed it.

SociopathFriend2 votes

I would say Mordekaiser would never be done with conquest. If he takes over the whole world he would be the type who constantly saw (or thought he saw) plots rising up against him- which he would crush. Which would inevitably ensure there would be a plot to rise against him- which he may or may not crush.

But I don't think Morde would ever succeed in taking over the entire world. He's got nothing on champions like AurelionSol Bard Diana Ekko Illaoi Kindred Leona Velkoz He's an undying juggernaut- but he's just not up to the league of these guys. Then again, a lot of league's villains became obsolete with the arrival of some of these people- most of Noxus for example is totally irrelevant in the scope of Void and Shadow Isles.

Fasmodey3 votes

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I would say Mordekaiser would never be done with conquest. If he takes over the whole world he would be the type who constantly saw (or thought he saw) plots rising up against him- which he would crush. Which would inevitably ensure there would be a plot to rise against him- which he may or may not crush.

But I don't think Morde would ever succeed in taking over the entire world. He's got nothing on champions like AurelionSol Bard Diana Ekko Illaoi Kindred Leona Velkoz He's an undying juggernaut- but he's just not up to the league of these guys. Then again, a lot of league's villains became obsolete with the arrival of some of these people- most of Noxus for example is totally irrelevant in the scope of Void and Shadow Isles.

Well, wut? Mordekaiser would crush Leona, Diana and Ekko together. Leona was almost losing against human bandits lel.

Dataless8 votes

That list needs to be pruned down to AurelionSol Bard Kindred, but then again NOBODY ever wins against Kindred in lore because you don't fight them, you just die.

agbudar2 votes

Mordekaiser is an UNDYING JUGGERNAUT Kindred has lorewise nothing he/she can do against him

Dataless6 votes

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Mordekaiser is an UNDYING JUGGERNAUT Kindred has lorewise nothing he/she can do against him

Everything has an end, Mordekaiser is no different. Wolf has chased him down many times and will chase him down many more. Eventually humanity will find a way to stop Mordekaiser from resurrecting and Kindred will take their Mark for good. Until that happens they will wait, they have all the time in the world.

Mistress Madoka3 votes

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Until that happens they will wait, they have all the time in the world.

OOooh, I like the way you wrote that, but I'mma put on my Nerd cap here

Kindred Exists on a plane without a concept of "Time" They do not Wait. They simply are there when they are. Time is a Meaningless institution to Kindred. But if Mordekaiser were to find a way to Tap into Kindred's Dimension, Certainly that would spell Doom for More than just Valoran, or even Runeterra.

Edit: Imean, at the very least I'd imagine it'd give him powers similar to Gilgamesh in Fate/Stay Night or Fate/Zero

Dataless6 votes

Kindred, from my understanding, do not exist in a separate dimension, they are omnipresent and insubstantial. You can perceive them only in the moment of dying and at all other times they are everywhere and nowhere.

Mistress Madoka1 votes

Hmm, Alright. That does make sense. Still, Omnipresence again destroys the concept of Waiting. They do no wait, they are simply there when they are.

Dataless5 votes

Not everything is literal.

It is a figure of speech meant to imply that, in the end, Kindred is still coming for Mordekaiser, whether in ten years or ten thousand.

Mistress Madoka1 votes

Yeh. Whether or not time Exists for kindred doesn't matter

Mordekaiser still Pisses them off

Dataless2 votes

In my head canon only Wolf is pissed off by the Shadow Isles champs, Lamb is kinda "meh" about it because she knows that, in the end, they will still win.

The Last Ballad2 votes

Supported by the fact that in Amumu's video song, when he is wandering the shadow isles, wolf stalks him(confirmed by a rioter).

Dataless1 votes

I just watched the video again, holy crap that puts so much into context.

Stars Shaper3 votes

Kindred shouldn't even be on any "power level" list. It's like putting "birth" in it, how do you give a power level to "birth"?

SociopathFriend2 votes

That would be the power of what in comics is known as a "conceptual" being. Something so powerful and unstoppable that it exists beyond a physical form- it's a concept.

For example: The Chaos Gods in WH40K. So long as sentient thoughts and emotions exist- so do they.

Arakadia2 votes

against Kindred in lore because you don't fight them, you just die.

Same thing with ingame.

Raid Boss Morde2 votes

Mordekaiser would be the one of the strongest champions lore-wise, but obviously not strong enough for AurelionSol Bard Kindred and maybe even Chogath (but we still don't really know how strong he is).

Dramos3 votes

Velkoz analyzes Mordekaiser partly

Mordekaiser : ...

Velkoz : ...

Mordekaiser : ...so?

Velkoz : Guess who just won a trip to the Shadow Isles to eradicate the coffin of yours. o)

Stars Shaper2 votes

Meanwhile Morde 3rd Q lands on Vel'koz eye xD

Dramos2 votes

Moments where I miss Worlds Mordekaiser. His third Q was impactful, obliterating and satisfying at the same time. No wonder Riot had to nerf him, but hey - he was popular.

Stars Shaper2 votes

Hehe, it is still impactful even if not that devastating. Mostly because enemies don't realize that the 3rd one deals double damage.

Rendarkan2 votes

Honestly... I think Morde is just bored beyond all reason and decided to say "Screw it I'm gonna make a band, name it Pentakill, then travel the world and catch dragons and shit and be a god damn king."

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