My Problems with Kai'Sa Narratively (And what I'd like to see Riot try and fix)

Sharjo·1/24/2020, 6:13:59 PM·53 votes·24,418 views
Kai'Sa - Champions - Universe of League of Legends

Hey there everyone, name’s Sharjo, and I have a problem.

It’s Kai’Sa.

Specifically her design and lore. I wanted to talk about it because it’s been eating away at me slowly for the last 2 years, but I also wanted to talk about things I feel could help remedy these issues.

Before I start, I do want to say that this is based purely on my own thoughts and feelings about Kai’Sa and the lore as a whole. I’m not calling out Kai’Sa fans or people who like this particular lore direction. If anything I’m jealous; I really want to enjoy her, but these problems get in the way of it for me.

So what is that problem? I’m glad you asked.

Kai’Sa completely invalidates the threat of the Void in the narrative.

Now, why do I feel this way? There are three things in particular which do this.


#First off, the elephant in the room: too sexy, not Shuriman enough#

Just to clarify something before we continue: There’s nothing wrong with sexy designs or sexy characters. Absolutely nothing.

Being sexy is great, but there’s times when sex appeal and sexualized designs begin to go against the themes you wanna present in a narrative. In some cases, like Evelynn for instance, it works extremely well, in others, it doesn’t. Kai’Sa is in that latter example.

Kai’Sa’s themes are about being a survivalist, being forced to live in one of the harshest environments Runeterra has to offer, fighting things that shouldn’t exist that want to erase her from existence just because she exists. She survives because she’s got a Voidborn grafted to her skin, which she can use as a weapon to fight back, and also serves as her means of protection and sustenance. She’s also been at this since she was maybe 10 years old.

So obviously she’ll come out of this with a perfect hourglass figure, pristine hair, well kept makeup and not a scratch on her.

Realistically I’d have expected a character like this to be far more athletic and muscled. Of course that doesn’t mean Kai’Sa would need to be on Illaoi’s level, but take a look at women competing in the olypmics in any given year and you’ll see what I mean. They have toned abs, sturdy muscles on their arms and legs, the works. Kai’Sa’s got a super model body, not an athlete’s body, and I feel it hurts her theme to not be portayed this way. Kai’Sa was the first lass (barring Xayah) that we’d seen with such a physique in a long time, as it had been 5 years between her release and Quinn/Lissandra, who themselves have similar body shapes but also have elements that contrast them so they’re not the focus.

There’s also the issue that Kai’Sa’s kinda whitewashed? Now that’ll probably sound weird because yeah she’ll be pale from living in caves for a decade, which is absolutely fair, but consider the fact that she comes from the same part of Runeterra as Taliyah, and Kai’Sa’s mum is presumably native to this region given a certain someone’s bio description of her. So even barring her father not being like Taliyah, given where Kai’Sa comes from you’d expect her to have similar features; a wider nose, thicker eyebrows, a different face shape, things like that. But where Taliyah clearly takes some inspiration from arabic and african ethnicities, Kai’Sa’s definitely a white lass, which feels very weird coming from one of the most far south places in the entire known world.


#Second: Her backstory is a bit too lucky for her own good#

The long and short of Kai’Sa’s bio is that she got trapped in the underground of southern Shurima when she was a kid, barely managed to kill a Voidborn about her size, and its flesh grafted to her own, which eventually became her bio-suit as she continued to live down there. She remained down there ever since.

That last part, the remaining down there part, is the thing that I find issue with.

Her killing the initial Voidborn is lucky as all hell, but not unwarranted. Luck isn’t something unreasonable to expect in a fictional character’s backstory, or in anyone’s life really. And even then I’m not one to discount what a kid can do when full of adrenaline and with their life on the line. That’s not a problem for me.

The problem is, how does she then keep surviving for what amounts to a decade after this? That part seems far, far more unlikely than the lucky Voidborn kill, and it feels like it cheapens the threat of the Voidborn themselves that a child could consistently kill them and survive. Now these might’ve been immensely difficult fights with tons of damage on both sides, but drawing back to the above point, Kai’Sa lacks the physical qualities to showcase a life of struggle and conflict against such an abominable threat. It makes the Voidborn seem more incompetent in my eyes, rather than Kai’Sa being that much better, which definetly sucks.


#Third: She’s too overtly paragon for her backstory#

Kai’Sa is effectively a paragon as far as her in game voice over goes; she’s fairly quiet all things considered; she’s not loud or bombastic, but she has multiple moments where she has inspiring words and ideas, where she feels like she could work as a leader or a hero.

The problem I have here is that I don’t think a life of isolation would lead to such a personality. Her bio makes it clear she’s been down there for a long time, and while she’s returned to the surface before, we’ve seen as much in her comic “The Breach”, but living alone in those caverns feels like it would make you far more quiet and laser focused, not one for idle chit chat. She doesn’t interact with people often enough to really warrant having such an openly inspiring and thoughtful way of speaking.

Here’s the thing too: I like that she’s a paragon. It feels good to have some more heroic and inspiring characters, and in Kai’Sa’s case being heroic vs the Void and the threat it poses is a space that’s been open for a long time, so I’m glad she has this personality, but given how she lives, and what the threat of the Void entails, it feels unearned in a way, like she wouldn’t come to have this personality directly without the Void being far less of a threat than it’s supposed to be.


#And finally: Nothing written about Kai’Sa indicates she has any trouble dealing with her situation#

The reason it matters is because, in a way, it feels to me that Kai’Sa spits in the face of all that the Void is supposed to bring to the narrative, as well as all the champions who it’s negatively affected.

When staring down the threat of the Watchers, Lissandra had to sacrifice thousands of lives, ruin the yeti’s civilization, and kill her own sisters in order to stop them, and she didn’t even do it permanently; she’s been keeping them lulled to sleep for millennia and the ice is starting to melt now. Lissandra, WIllump, and to an extent Ivern suffered because of this. In the former two’s cases, for around 9,000 years.

The Ascended of Shurima had to fight the Void in such a way as to kill anything that lived around them, so as to starve it out and win the war through long, painful attrition. It traumatized them, and was a contributing factor in them becoming the Darkin 500 years later.

Icathia was completely destroyed by the Void. It’s people erased, it’s lands ruined. Jax almost commited suicide over it, and Zilean’s seeing futures of the end of everything because of it.

The Marai tribe of vastaya face extinction from the Void all the time; it’s only kept at bay because of Targonian intervention, but that light’s fading and if Nami’s away for too long, her entire tribe, everyone she knows and loves, will be erased.

Kassadin lost everything to the Void. Taric was exiled because of the Void. Malzahar is lost because of the Void. Targon feared the Void so much they called Aurelion Sol to get rid of it when it cropped up over 5,000 years ago.

And here’s Kai’Sa, sexy as all hell, refined, confident, quietly optimistic and totally taking care of the Void like it’s nothing. Where gods among men fell, where entire civilizations and species were lost, where families were destroyed and hope died, Kai’Sa seemingly has no issues. She does have a few lines pertaining to the feeling of wearing the suit all the time, but she expresses no sentiments about how hard it is to survive, about her personal struggles, and none of her stories really convey that her life is in any way stressful or difficult. Her comic and story “The Girl Who Came Back” are both compelling reads, but neither address this core issue, which I feel is the most damning one I can lay at Kai’Sa’s feet.


#So that's the jist of it. So what now?#

Well going through all that to just say “Sucks right?” wouldn’t be in any way good, so I wanted to discuss one thing in particular that I think could help out with these issues I have.

She won’t be redesigned visually because, as Riot’s clearly shown, their skins department doesn’t give a shit for her survivalist, bio-suit theme. All she is from that stand point is raw sex appeal. Plus there’s also the time where this entire community went rabid at Riot because they gave Fiora sharper cheekbones, which suddenly transformed her in to a “40 year old transvestite” as some boards users lovingly put it. So her dissonant character design won’t be changed. Fine, moving on.

I wouldn’t want Riot to revise her backstory and retcon it. We’ve been through this reboot of the canon since 2014 and it’s still ongoing, albeit we’re almost at the finish line with only a handful of champions without any content at all. I really wouldn’t want Riot to have to retcon Kai’Sa’s backstory. They clearly believe it’s workable in universe, so I wanna see them execute that.

I don’t want her personality to change. I do absoluetly like her being a paragon. We don’t have enough paragons imo. It’s good to have, especially in the marksman role, which is full of cocky twats everywhere you look.

What I DO want to see, which isn’t really a change but more of a development, is I want to see her struggle.

I want to see how hard it is for her to keep up her paragon nature, and how it hurts her to do so when everyone treats her like a monster. I want to see her in some rough, really hard and nasty fights vs Voidborn, where she can get beaten down but rise back up and destroy them viscerally, so every victory feels wholly earned but the Voidborn also come across as the world-ending abominations they’re supposed to be. I wanna see her have doubts, I wanna see her worried, I wanna see her stressed. Give this girl more stressful situations that make her heroism and optimism far more earned; that she can face these threats, that she can struggle and suffer, but then survive and keep her ideals and will strong.

I want the Void to really test Kai’Sa to the fullest extent of her character, so that the Kai’Sa I see in game feels like a more grounded and inspiring figure comparatively to what I see now, which feels unfaithful and unearned.

#This was long, got a tl;dr?#

Yeah, tl;dr, put Kai’Sa through the meat grinder narratively but then have her come out still heroic and hopeful, if a little worse for wear. She should feel like a survivor with hope enduring in a hopeless situation, not as a lvl 100 character soloing lvl 5 mobs in an mmo.

And that’s everything. Thanks for taking the time to read my Kai’Sa spiel. It’s like 2 years overdue but I’ve been busy with way too much shit so my apologies.

Anyway, I hope you have a great day!

99 Comments

Cosmic Star1/24/2020, 9:22:14 PM18 votes

I really agree with everything you said, she is not a bad character, but she doesn't transmit the idea that she was trapped in the worst place possible as a child, alone for so many years. I kinda have the same issue with Senna, her Voice Lines look too positive and even playful for someone who got their soul tortured for years and years...

Requiemsfire1/25/2020, 6:41:22 AM9 votes

She really doesn't communicate that she's a survivor of a realm that drives people insane merely by gazing inside filled with all consuming creatures that relentlessly hunt down any living creature. Compare her to Rengar's artwork, Rengar also has that talk about him as a person, he's a survivor, a hunter and you can easily tell that by just glancing at him with his eye, his armour, his stance but with kai'sa sure you can tell she's shooting these alien esque creatures but beyond that her design does nothing to communicate anything else.

zounet1/24/2020, 9:15:56 PM9 votes

Good post But did you read the new non official Kai SA story on the wiki? It was a leak, and you might enjoy it, showing Kai SA more as a " half human, half monster"

Terozu1/24/2020, 10:22:06 PM6 votes

Funny you should mention olympic athletes.

If you do a side by side, Kai'Sa has the body of one. Well toned, smaller chest, etc. You can't see her abs, but you can tell she has a flat stomach, and the crease in the middle defines them. She does not have an hour glass figure. Her splash depicts her as broad shouldered, and an average width waist. If you're referring to the curve, that's called a bent back from a side angle.

https://images.hdqwalls.com/download/kai-sa-default-skin-splash-art-yh-1920x1080.jpg

Looking at her splash, she has thin limbs and a bared collar bone, implying malnutrition. She has a flat, somewhat muscular stomach. She has thick muscular thighs, implying a lot of running.

Her body type is clearly athletic. If you look up images of Olympic Ballerinas, they all have similar body types, many are much curvier than Kai'Sa.

I will admit she should appear more unkempt in the face, though her hair is long and tangled.

So she is realistically athletic. She just also has flawless skin.

As for canon? Kai'Sa grew up in a nice closed in cavern, with many nooks and crannies to hide in. She constantly talks about having to constantly fight. And there's a huge difference between her situation and others.

Lissandra? She was dealing with the Watchers themselves. Not their spawn, the actual Watchers. A much larger threat. And for the Shurimans? Much larger rifts, in wide open spaces they couldn't contain.

They also, don't have Kai'Sa's biggest advantage, her skin. Which not only makes her immune to many of the void's effects, it also gives her powerful weapons, that, if they can't hurt the void creature she's fighting, can adapt to do so mid fight. Which no other force on Runeterra as we know it can claim. The reason she thrives while fighting them is because she's using it to fight it.

The same reason she thrives is why Shurimans struggle, they can't biologically adapt to an enemy mid fight. Once the Void adapts to counter an attack, it stops working. So every attack, only works once.

The only other characters who could possibly fight the void as well as kai'Sa that we know of are Zilean and Ekko. Who can revert to before the enemy adapted, and hit it harder. Maybe this time? It'll work.

Żügżwäng1/24/2020, 11:29:46 PM6 votes

I don't think criticizing her looks has any validity to it, and I see this on the boards echo chamber quite often anytime someone is bringing kai'sa up. Disagree with her being too sexy (there's nothing to prove/disprove here). Your argument about "athlete's body" is a pretty wacky one -- without sounding like I'm telling fishermen's tales, as someone who had an active past, I've met a lot of very attractive, but also very athletic females. By attractive, to me, I'm not talking about any sort of muscle definition that you'd typically see on a male (volleyball, swimming, dance, martial arts, etc). To each their own, but I can attest that I've seen girls with "model" looks perform at high athletic levels. Not sure what you mean by "whitewashed" either, have you seen people from Isreal, Syria, Egypt, Iraq. I've met dozens at this point who are whiter than myself (Eastern European). League has seen a drought of "super sexy women" as of late, but I think that niche is already quite filled, we probably don't need them that often anymore, but I'm all for it as a heterosexual male whenever they do release a new one.

I do think her symbiote should have been played up more however. Make it have certain parts that move -- not the cliched tentacles, but something to let us know it's not just some body suit, which it certainly looks like. Also agree her looks could have been more "wild" -- more nidalee and less ahri.

I agree with the rest of your points... the lore team is quite hit or miss with me. World building in league is extremely weak, with a few random disconnected stories here and there which spotlight a couple of main characters and some side characters as well, then it's forgotten.

Phhase1/25/2020, 4:13:44 PM6 votes

FINALLY SOMEONE GETS IT. SHE REFLECTS BADLY ON THE VOID BY MAKING IT A JOKE.

And what the hell kind of excuse is "We wanted to make her more easily identifiable as a hero" for making her pretty and clean instead of the actually planned rugged corrupted look?? That's low. Heroes can be ugly. And the only in-game identifier you need is red or blue.

I love cowboys1/25/2020, 11:07:40 PM6 votes

As a fair-skinned middle eastern dude, your line of reasoning that every middle-eastern inspired character has to look like Taliyah is a little fucked up tbh.

FlameHalbrdOkido1/24/2020, 10:07:14 PM6 votes

Id like them to at least explain why the suit either didn't continue trying to acidify her arm once it was half dead, or explain why it was able to grow flexible material in all the right places and why she didn't just end up like "han solo carbonized"

They could just do a lengthy flash back in a future story that explains much of what doesnt make sense about her. Like maybe the 1st person she encounters after years screams in her presence even after she removes as much of the suit covering her as she can, so she finds some make up supplies to try to make herself less scary. Idk give me something.

The biggest issue it feels is that they didn't care about anything when they made her so she ended up being a mess that was only intended to be popular and now the best bet we have at achieving any semblance of her narrative/visual/gameplay potential is a plea to actually care about something about her realistically and that just happens the least disruptive method of making some part of her make any sort of sense.

If they do it ill be really happy, id like it if some aspect of her got closer to her true potential, and im one of the ones who dislikes her the most, bc she just might b the worst designed champ, visually and story-wise.

ProphetOfDraven1/24/2020, 10:47:51 PM5 votes

Realistically I’d have expected a character like this to be far more athletic and muscled.

How would she work out to achieve an athletic and muscular body? Normal humans do not become athletic and muscular even through dire circumstances like that, especially not women. The suit is what does all the work keeping her alive.

Ahri Body Pillow1/25/2020, 5:10:57 PM4 votes

Hard to swallow pill:

Riot does not give a single fuck about your opinion on Kai'sa.

Wrathof3001/25/2020, 8:50:30 PM4 votes

The Void's own reputation is its hubris, its current popularity and threat as a villainous faction are leftovers from the old lore. The Void is the only region written to be the "final villain", whereas other villainous factions and champion have earned their reputations themselves; The Shadow Isles, Mordekaiser, The Darkin. Proof of this are the Watchers, the Void being given the old Frozen Watchers lore to make the region more threatening, while I think this was necessary update for the Void it shows that outside of Icathia, the Void is only a threat because we have been told to treat it as such.


So when Kai'sa attains a Void symbiote and is capable of killing other lesser voidlings, I do not think she often runs into Cho'gath and Vel'koz tier Voidborn, especially since she was trapped in a cavern where the only food would have been other void creatures, I think it is believable that after that first stroke of luck she could have easily survived.


While I agree that a scar or maybe if the symbiote replaced one of her limbs that was completely lost in a battle would add to her design, and that she is another sexy league babe and may be oversexualized in certain aspects. However, her thematic is that of survivor in a Void symbiote aka the "Samus Aran"/ "Ironman"/ "Venom" of league and I believe she executes this relatively well.

Smartness Immune1/25/2020, 1:54:42 AM3 votes

Great post.Enjoyed reading it. However, i want to say something about the "sexy" or "good looking figure" that many people had in the past.Hear me out on this one. Maybe she just looks good because of her Mother. We don't know exactly how her mother looked or what her ancestors looked like. (I hope you know where i'm trying to go with this one). Now, Kaisa looks could be based of hes father as well. As far as we know, her father could be the hottest person on Runeterra. Imma keep it short on this one. What i am trying to say, usually kids will inherit facial features from both parents, regardless of the child's gender. Saying that Kai'sa dosen't look Shuriman it's a bit of a stretch. Because sometimes, she could have all the facial features of her father, and all the body ones from her mother.

Now, talking about her "general appearance". I like to think about it like this. From her Quotes, we can tell that after she came back from the void, she had interactions with humans, therefore we can assume they helped her make **am image for herself. **

Also worth mentioning is that you said in your post: She was in the void from around age of 10. You would be surprised how many things you can learn in (assuming) 9 years. Her personality might just reflect her first 9 years of the Runeterra. We can tell she is still a little girl on the inside, because of her affection towards humans, even if they see her like a monster. Also another thing worth mentioning is that, you are saying something like that all those years spent in the Runeterra meant nothing. You are saying it like she will never remember anything once she gets into and out of the void. People tend to usually remember stuff even after really long times (maybe she was told/shown about make-up when she was little). Sure, she didn't have a need in the void for such a thing, but once back in Runeterra, it would make sense to apply what logic/memory she had from before she got into the void.

About the muscle part. Her void creature might have a big role in it Here's why: The void creature helped her survive in the void, therefore we can assume the Void Creature that covers her it's really resilient to damage/outside threats. Therfore, Kaisa's body didn't need to have develop bigger muscles, thanks to the Void Creature doing most of the important work. (I like to think about her suit, like an exo-skeleton, you don't really need a lot of muscles to

HalfTangible1/25/2020, 1:01:10 AM3 votes

"Kai’Sa’s definitely a white lass"

She looks kinda Japanese or Chinese to me =/

AnotherPurple3792/10/2020, 9:23:41 AM2 votes

I meant to comment on this earlier, and I know this is really late, but this thread was so good I had to respond.

I really think you nailed all the problems with Kai'Sa at the moment, narrative and design-wise speaking.

The bodysuit itself is okay with me, but the fact that it’s more like a sexy catsuit than a protective suit is where the problems are. But the biggest problem I have is the fact that she looks virtually unscarred or dirty. Really underplays her whole trope as a survivor of one of Runeterra’s worst areas.

I also think that the hourglass model body is inappropriate, but I would actually have gone the other way. Instead of her being more athletic, I would have actually liked it if she took a more malnourished and scrawny body type. Perhaps the parasite provides her with enough strength and speed for her to make due, but does little in actually providing her with proper nutrition (or proper anything, really). The Void is, again, a place of horrors, and I think it would further show how terrible of a toll it has taken on Kai’Sa and highlight again how resilient she is. And don’t forget the scars!

I know Riot said they didn’t want a monster Champion because Kai’Sa is supposed to be human, and I respect that decision, but still. A big point of her character is that everyone else sees her as a monster. So I feel there was still something that could have been done about that, just to make her stand out a little bit better. Plus maybe they could have done more with the suit itself to show how it’s an actual living thing instead of just making it look like a suit? But those are mostly pretty minor.

And about that whitewashing point? I agree with it, not mainly because that area shouldn’t have a lot of diversity (which you are correct on, but it’s not the thing that concerns me most), but mostly because it would have been a good opportunity to introduce another character with features such as Taliyah. We already have a lot of white girls in this game already, so another character with Taliyah’s features would have given us more diversity, as well as giving Kai’Sa a distinct face to stand out. Whitewashing might be a little bit of a weird way to describe it because I don’t think she’s never really been a woman of color (maaaybe in the concept art she was? It’s a bit difficult for me to tell), but I do consider it a wasted opportunity nonetheless that they just made her white.

The second section about luck isn’t too much of an issue to me, but you do bring a good point up that it cheapens the whole threat of the Void. Which I feel would be very easily solvable if she had scars to prove the harsh life she’s endured and the battles she’s fought. Which she doesn’t.

Something about Kai’Sa’s personality I’ve always wished was canon was her just being somewhat… emotional? To be honest, I don’t like how they’ve gone with the calm, bland, emotionless survivor angle. To me, it just makes her more boring than believable when she just keeps spouting all these inspirational lines in such a monotone voice. Senna kinda has the same angle too now that I think about it, but at least at some points she has her emotional moments too.

I do also like the fact that Kai’Sa’s a paragon, that she’s good. But the way she’s also just this smooth-talking, emotionless, calm-minded person is just… Kind of boring to me. Someone also mentioned at one point they would have expected Kai’Sa to more “feral” in a way, since she grew up in the Void, which also makes a lot of sense. So I might have also expected her to be more instinctive and laser-focused, like you said.

Exploring a little more of her trauma and how she deals with it might also have been a good way to explore Kai’Sa character and make her more sympathetic to us. Exploring what she did to keep herself alive, how she’s managed to cope, more of what she thinks of everyone else, could go a long way in making her feel more alive, at least in my opinion. Plus, perhaps having some moments where she struggles in interactions with other humans could help to make her more enduring and believable.

All of this probably adds up to your last point of having absolutely no trouble dealing with the Void whatsoever, an issue that you put into words far better than I could have. So, moving on:

It’s a shame that she won’t get a better character design in-game anytime soon, but I still hold out hope that in other pieces of media, she might get some good changes, kinda like how Lux and Caitlyn did in the recent Warriors cinematic (unfortunately, Kai’Sa there is still more or less the same she is now, but I’m holding onto hope).

While I think retcons are not all that bad when used to better contextualize a character and make backgrounds fit into the world, Kai’Sa’s backstory is actually pretty okay, so a retcon would be really unnecessary. And I do want her to keep her personality marker as a paragon of good.

So yes. I want to see her struggle, and I want her see her endure. I heard there was a leaked story about Kai’Sa a while ago, but I didn’t get a chance to read it yet. But I heard it was a great piece, so I hope this particular story does in fact make her struggle once it’s finally released.

Again, sorry that this is so late, but I wanted to get this out there, because I really like your thread. Hats off to you.

SpyKayle1/25/2020, 8:56:25 PM1 votes

My issue with her killing the voidling at all is that voidling armor, or void creature armor in general, is stated to be harder than steel. We see this in the story "Eye in the Abyss", where a voidling is hit with a Steel axe and it does nothing. Only the true ice weapons cut through their armor, the steel dulling itself on it and doing no damage. So how then, did this 10 year old girl kill one with nothing but a shitty knife? It states that she drove the blade into its heart but why would its heart be outside of its body? That makes no sense, I get the Void isn't supposed to but I don't think they'd just have their heart outside their exo-skeleton.