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Who would Win: Round one! Urgot Versus Camille

TrainerRobo·8/26/2018, 2:15:27 AM·8 votes·6,422 views

I'm going to start posting hypothetical "Who would win" Fights. This is speaking purely Canonical, not based on in game. I chose this as a first matchup, because in a few ways, they're opposites and Similar. is Zaun's Robin hood/Bane figure, and is a wealthy assassin for Piltover. The setting of the fight would be deep in the Sumps of Zaun, but fairly close to the top of the Sumps. Camille was sent down by chem barons to kill Urgot, and Urgot, through many of his followers, learned about Camille coming, and has been preparing, and ready for when she shows. He considers Camille an equal, but unworthy. When Camille finds him and attempts to first strike, Urgot is able to dash away before impact. Now ready to fight, the battle is in your hands. Don't make biased decisions and clearly think this through! Post discussions on who you'd think would win in the comments.

EDIT: I figured I should add my thoughts and predictions. Basically, Urgot really just has to land one or two shots from either his gun or knee or both. The question is, would he be able to? I believe he would. Urgot is by no means not intelligent. It would be a matter of prediction and huge area damage, as hers would be a precise, clean hit. The fight itself i feel leans into Urgot's favor, but could go either way.

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Zapzya8/26/2018, 2:59:21 AM4 votes

Urgot doesn't particularly have a weak spot, but is incredibly immobile while Camille can slingshot herself off of walls. As Camille has been extensively augmented, she can most likely survive any toxic gases, and as such could use them to hide from Urgot. She could use a hit and run style technique, jumping to and from the shadows, while Urgot would have no chance of getting a hold on her. All she would need is a couple well placed slices from her legs, and Urgot would be done.

Also, small typo, Camille is from Piltover, not Zaun.

Warlord Dienekes8/26/2018, 3:46:14 AM3 votes

If we’re using logic. Urgot should take this. Mostly because sword legs are the single dumbest weapon in this entire setting. I could explain all the ways why this is a dumb weapon. Unfortunately, I’m on my phone so I have to try and be succinct.

But we can’t use actual logic for these things. We have to use “story logic” where we have to take everything at face value and simply ignore the points where the setting falls apart.

So we’re left with a David/Goliath or Oberyn and Clegane situation. But the weird thing is in this situation Goliath also has range. And David decided instead of using his speed with range to play keep away with his enemy he put goddamn swords on his legs.

Both these characters have shown themselves to be tactically quite smart. I think a lot of people will try to give the edge to Camille because she carries herself with a lot of the attitude we correlate with intelligence. But in effect we only ever see either of them perform highly precise and original infiltrations and ambushes that are almost universally successful. I’d call this one a wash. But I’m willing to give the slight edge to Camille mostly because she has more resources to draw upon. And the effectiveness of upper or lower class info gathering when compared to each other almost always relies on the opinions of the author over any real reason.

Anyway, if we get to the actual fight. Camille can dance around like a ninja and is deadly up close. Here’s the thing though. Assuming she can dodge bullets. That still won’t work that well against Urgot’s multiple shotguns that can take chunks out of everything remotely near Camille. And while I would give the definite advantage to Camille up close. I don’t think Urgot is supposed to be a slouch in melee either.

But all that said, I’d give Urgot 70-30 odds in a straight fight.

But that’s not where Camille shines. She’s an assassin. So can she find a kill Urgot in his sleep? Eh. Probably. Thus far Urgot seems to have thwarted any organized attempt on his life after he basically declared war on the entire criminal underground. If he was easy to catch they would have done it already.

However, since we don’t have any idea what precautions he has actually taken against assassination this is entirely speculation. As such I would give it to Camille 60-40.

Moody P8/26/2018, 2:26:26 AM3 votes

gun legs > sword legs

urgot shoots grandma in her replacement knees, easily defeating his naive and useless opponent

SangreDeNoche8/26/2018, 7:54:24 PM2 votes

Urgot murders her by words alone.

Lordk0z8/26/2018, 2:34:09 AM2 votes

Camille impales Urgot in the knee with her sword-leg. Urgot retaliates by detonating said leg, destroying both of their legs. Urgot now has 5 legs. Camille has 1.

Eternal7918/26/2018, 5:40:18 AM2 votes

Urgot has the edge just because of the size of his weapons. A single shot from his machinegun would blow her apart considering its about the size of an m1abrams' main cannon.

However, Camille does have an in-lore shield and has been shown to be quite capable of dodging shots from multiple enemies.

Chillee8/26/2018, 3:35:15 AM2 votes

Urgot has removed every part of him that he deemed weak. In my opinion, Camille could possibly put up a solid fight, but the ruthlessness of Urgot would obliterate her. Oh and also: ShOtGuN kNeEs

SolarisCorvus8/27/2018, 7:47:20 AM1 votes

I feel urgot would win due to his weaponry welded onto his body. Also Urgot is intelligent like camille and wouldnt fall for her tactics as her other targets would.

Tattersall8/26/2018, 5:47:25 PM1 votes

I think all y'all are underestimating Camillie's durability. She's basically all machine now, and I feel like her tech is probably strong enough to take a shotgun blast, especially with her speed. Maybe even a couple shotgun blasts. Camille's agility and environment maneuverability would let her get into close combat with Urgot easily, and after that Urgot has obvious weak points in his head and chest, and I think Camille could easily play around that.

Cetri8/26/2018, 7:50:18 PM1 votes

Camille needs to get in close to land a hit, assuming she doesn't carry around grenades or something for this mission. The main thing she would need to do to win is stay above him, and stay behind him. She would need to keep him guessing about which direction she would come from, which mainly boils down to a question of how loud her hookshots are. If they're stealthy enough, she could get a clean surgical strike to Urgot's spinal cord. If not, Urgot would just pivot around to face her, and give her fear beyond death.

Terozu8/26/2018, 11:54:14 PM1 votes

Depends. How much preparation would they each have? Because Camille is kind of like batman(bane jokes aside here) in that she could take out a god with enough preparation.

Automated Riven8/27/2018, 5:57:46 AM1 votes

With prep, Camille no contest. Without prep probably the other way around.