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Nautilus and Illaoi

TheAutumnKnight··24 votes·4,954 views

Ok, so firstly I know this is late to the game but it took me a while to really stop and think about this. Secondly, I am unsure if this is where it goes as this is my first time posting. Anyways, I main Nautilus and I have been wondering about the link between him and Illaoi, and I may have come up with an idea and want your opinions. So, in Nautilus's backstory, it says he was grabbed by tentacles and dragged down into the black ooze and then awoke to find himself bonded to the diving suit. Well we know Illaoi's god doesn't live in the oceans, she said it lives inside us. But, it is still a god of the seas and is worshiped by most in Bilgewater and has been for a long time. So while it may not have been what dragged Nautilus down, I got to thinking this: What if it WAS what gave nautilus his power? What if Nautilus was chosen as worthy by Nagakabouros and was given a second chance? He was a sailor from Bilgewater, and the god is known to 'test' people as stated when Illaoi takes your soul or when you move with her. I'm still fleshing out details but, this does seem plausible no? For example, what if while being dragged down, Nautilus never stopped fighting, it said he gripped the anchor for dear life and even dragged it down with him. Of course this is all speculation, just curious about what y'all think.

23 Comments

Sharjo16 votes

Personally, considering Nautilus is listed as a rival of Illaoi, I recon his powers come from some god who opposes Nagakabouros in Illaoi's religion. It's already stated that the Buhru people have more than one god, and so I can definetly see a space where the black goop that transformed Nautilus originated from what Illaoi would say is an enemy of Nagakabouros.

Stemming from that, I recon Illaoi's got some intel on some Marai/whatever the fuck Fizz's people are called. Again I'm wondering if there's a god or two involved with them, but time will tell I'm sure.

SpecterVonBaren2 votes

The Marai are Nami's people.

Sharjo3 votes

Yes I am aware. I'm saying she might have some intel on them and/or whatever the fuck Fizz's people are called. Looking at it now it does kinda look like I said the two are the same, so sorry for the confusion there. I fucked up on the wording.

TheAutumnKnight1 votes

I like this idea, like you said there are many gods from the Buhru, so this makes sense to me, maybe a sister god? One essentially the same but opposed?

Hollandiae8 votes

Come to think of it, Nautilus' quotes do mention him constantly moving forward and endlessly marching. He's always in motion.

Skelenth3 votes

These quotes refer to the time he was in the oceans depths. Even though he was moving, it sounds more like the remembrance of a trauma, which being dragged down into the ocean, drowning and waking up bound to a diving suit probably is. I see this part of Nautilus more of the exactly opposite of motion. It wasn't him that moved him, but his fear/whatever I don't even know the word for what I mean in my own language. Something like a mental ground zero

Ralanr4 votes

PTSD?

Skelenth1 votes

probably like that

Panwar2 votes

I would agree. Naut's main story hook is his drive for revenge against those responsible for abandoning him. Revenge is the opposite of moving forward. Naut is firmly stuck in the past.

BLU Medic3 votes

That... actually makes a lot of sense.

rubberduckie6663 votes

if i remeber correctly during the harrowing Nautilus could be seen fighting off hords of gouls and spirits perhaps some god decided that bildgewater needed some sort of defence wallto make sure it couldnt have got overrun to the point there would be no resistance. or that black goo drowned the sailor and isnted of letting his spirit be enslaved in the shadow isles nagakabouros bound his soul to the suit as he died while fighing to stay afloat while getting dragged down by something unnatural .i dont know tho

kaltenashes3 votes

so illaoi is the real maker of big daddy

big daddy naut and little sister annie skins plz

TendajiX2 votes

He might have been punished by nagakabouros for something, his form doesn't seem like much of a present......

Doctor Dyment2 votes

I love Nautilus too, and he is listed as a rival for Illaoi. What I'm thinking is that either Nautilus was given his power (or curse) by a rival god to Illaoi's, or he was supposed to have his spirit ripped away from him by the god. But instead, only his body left him and his soul bound to the suit he is trapped in when he died. So Illaoi sees his very existence as an active defiance to her god's ideals.

Mister Sunglow1 votes

The other theory is that Nautilus is a Darkin which would make sense since all the thus-far-supposed Darkin have weapons which are linked to them in some way...

KING OF MASKS1 votes

Interesting idea, but in my opinion Nagakabouros doesn't sound malevolent enough to be what created Nautilus. I've always figured that the black ooze was explicitly evil (though I could be wrong).

Also Naut's lore doesn't mention anything about tentacles. "Something" pulled him down, but it's not specified.

Valor Bot1 votes

[{quoted}](name=KING OF MASKS,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=wbtrtlH1,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2015-12-06T06:30:41.627+0000)Also Naut's lore doesn't mention anything about tentacles. "Something" pulled him down, but it's not specified.

There is this one piece of concept art, though:

http://i.imgur.com/e0KorsK.jpg"

DwarvenGiant1 votes

I've waited for someone to point it out, but I wouldn't think much of it. :P

KING OF MASKS1 votes

Yeah... but that definitely isn't canon. Whatever's hidden inside the suit is meant to be a mystery. It's plausible, though.

TheAutumnKnight1 votes

Well, I sorta inferred tentacles from this passage: "Dark** tendrils** enveloped him and he could do nothing but watch as the dimming outline of his ship faded away. Then everything went black." I honestly took tendrils to maybe mean tentacles, since a tendril is a long slender gripping appendage. :P Any thoughts on the meaning of that?

KING OF MASKS1 votes

Okay, that's weird. I used the unofficial wiki to double check Naut's lore, but for whatever reason the wiki doesn't have the "dark tendrils" line, while the client (and the official site) does. Fuckin' unofficial wikis.

So, nevermind. Forget I said anything.

...although I'm still somewhat skeptical about Nagakabouros' involvement, since he/she/it doesn't seem evil enough.

Xefi1 votes

I don't believe Naga would have given Nautilus that type of second chance, because it absolutely hates undead. That's why the Black Mists are such a enemy of Nagakabouros. In the story, it tells mention of a "elderly caller" in a robe, resembling a krakken, and "faded kraken ink" giving him the illusion of being draped in "rough-hewn tentacles". His face was completely covered by a black tattoo depicting the "endless" teeth of a leviathan’s maw. When I think of the "endless teeth of a leviathan's maw", I can only imagine the endless grasp of death. I believe the seer was having a vision of Nautilus being dragged to the depths by tendrils, only to be met with an endless, and vengeful death. So for him to have this vision, makes me believe Nagakabouros was at least somewhat responsible for Nautilus's demise.

The caller also mentions at one point that “The greatest beasts won’t approach Bilgewater,” he says “They stay out in the deep water, away from the stench of the Slaughter Docks. At best, a few "half-starved younglings" will heed our summons.” When I think of half-starved, maybe I take this wrong. But I believe that maybe it could have been an incident where the "younglings" may have grabbed Nautilus and pulled him into the depths, because they were "half-starved". The ink that Nautilus and his crew spotted was more than likely a krakken, and it was a tentacle that pulled him down. One that was big enough to cause panic to the crew. Was it perhaps Nagakabouros passing judgement, and Nautilus's spirit was just too driven with vengeance to die? Or was it maybe the half-starved children of Nagakabouros?

I believed at one point that the black mist could have done this, and Nagakabouros turned it's back on Bilgewater, due to the constant neglect of the water near their docks. But I believe it all comes back around to Illaoi's God.

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