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SilentConquest··34 votes·3,205 views

Why in the world did Riot ever go from story telling like this...

In the ancient civilization of Shurima, the mage called Xerath practiced magic with undying passion. He believed that with enough magical power, he could gaze into the heart of Runeterra to know the secrets of history and the universe beyond. Such magic was beyond the limitations of a mortal body, but Xerath obsessively pursued a path to infinite power nonetheless. With every breakthrough he grew more and more powerful, yet not without consequence. Xerath's increasing arcane abilities wrought havoc on his physical form. Desperate, he undertook a dangerous ritual to transcend his dying body. The outcome would be immortality or self-destruction. Violent magic unleashed during the ritual caused devastation throughout Shurima, but when the dust settled, Xerath emerged as an ascended being of pure arcane energy.

Free of flesh and bone, Xerath held nearly infinite power at his command. However, in the wake of his chaotic ritual, the mages of Shurima feared his careless disregard for life would bring ruin to the kingdom. After a terrible struggle they subdued Xerath, but they could not destroy his ascended form. Instead they trapped him within an enchanted sarcophagus and sealed him in an underground tomb. Eons passed, civilizations rose and fell, and Xerath's imprisonment was lost to memory. For centuries, Xerath's vast power tore away at the sarcophagus and weakened its spell. Finally, he willed forth a burst of magic that shattered his prison, but its core remained, containing Xerath and his power within its broken pieces. Seeking to rid himself of this burden, he was drawn to the magic of Valoran's nexuses and found he could absorb their power. Yet the nexuses had gatekeepers: petty mages known as summoners. Xerath knew his key to true freedom from his prison lay in gaining their trust, and he offered his power to the League of Legends.

... to this?

Powerful beyond reckoning, the Ascended being known as Xerath was once a mortal of flesh and blood. He is now something vastly different - a being of writhing arcane energy. Having emerged from millennia-spanning imprisonment, he is now ready to unleash his power upon Runeterra, and utterly destroy any who oppose him.

The old lore speaks of a man with desires, ambitions, and struggles who sacrificed his own humanity for sheer arcane goodness. He's a character. New lore says Xerath's a pretty strong mage.

Yeah, the Azir/Xerath story they put out a few months ago gave him a few emotions but the whole thing just.... never felt like Xerath to me. The new, story-Xerath can be boiled down into a jealous, revenge-driven mage. In and of itself that's not so bad a character. Honest. But is that supposed to be... Xerath? Our Xerath? And to be fair, I haven't read recent lore too much because of the awful press it gets with the community. I gave it a run for the first time in awhile thinking, "The League community loves to overreact at everything... can't be that bad!" Boy, was I severely disappointed and to be quite frank, upset.

I'm not upset that they abbreviated his lore. The abbreviated lore, while being a watered down version of his old (better) lore still says that Xerath Ascended into awesomeness and is pretty pissed at being imprisoned. But the story just missed the mark on... everything else it feels like.

What happened? O.O

26 Comments

Alljoy27 votes

I've seen card games with more elaborate lore for their characters.

OneMoreDaySK17 votes

Lore team got replaced. They took a new direction, and is moving at an unknown very slow rate, with no community interaction, which was what got a ton of lore-loving folk into the game in the first place.

By the way, New!Xerath is pretty much either Jafar or a villain from FMA, from what I can gather of the lore.

Voidac10 votes

"Don't make us do stuff. Go buy some skins. We can't even listen to anything you people have to say anyways becuase legal reasons." - Riot Games

GreenLore9 votes

because they continue to release the short lores without the long lores.

Full lore can be found here: http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Xerath/Background

Champion Skin4 votes

Well the thing is though... that Xerath is completely different from the other Xerath which was a man studying and desiring magic above all else... this Xerath would probably gladly have sacrificed his freedom if it meant he would be able to uncover all the secrets and powers of magic

And now Xerath has become a schemer and deceiver... planning a life time for revenge.... for what he felt he has been denied for much too long...

GreenLore1 votes

Yeah there are definetly differences,although they said that Xerath still has an immense interest in magic(otherwise he wouldn't have been able to pull something like this off).

And well new xeraths motives are still unkown,sure he wanted to be free,but that doesn't mean that he didn't want to have insight into magic,what he did simply gave him both,so it is possible that he wanted both.

Sneak Dog4 votes

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/story-art/RdkEIREJ-short-stories-xerathunbound

Denied a small, simple thing, the right to live his life, Xerath decided to take everything, all of the things denied to him, all of the things he deserved: the empire, Ascension, and the absolute purest form of freedom possible.

Seems to be his motivation, clearly stated and different from the original.

Xerath had planned for every contingency. He had bribed, killed, out-maneuvered, and plotted for decades

Seems to be his way of achieving it, clearly stated and different from the original

The focus is entirely different.

LordHippoman8 votes

I like the new full lore better for Xerath, to be honest. The abbreviation is meh, but I think the actual full story makes him more relatable (Slavey is bad, nobody's going to disagree on that, so he has reason to be angry, although he took his revenge way too far.), and it sets up conflict with Azir, as they clearly have some unfinished business. Tabitha was already dead and buried, so there wasn't much more they could do with her.

Plus, it's pretty heartbreaking when you combine it with Azir's story and see that Azir really thought Xerath was his best friend, and he hated the whole slavery thing too. But, miscommunications, too little, too late, country explodes. So it's probably not just complete outright hatred between them, they both likely have some regrets. Hopefully that gets explored, if not in canon, maybe fanfic or something.

I think they have the strongest of the Shurima lores. I would have liked more explanation of the coffin, though.

Sneak Dog8 votes

I like the new full lore better for Xerath, to be honest.

However, does that matter?

Xerath got his main motivation and modus operandi changed. It's for my argument here irrelevant whether for better or worse, his character got changed. Now any character could get changed. Why was old Xerath changed? I've no clue. From this I conclude:** For reasons unknown to me, any character could get changed/retconned by Riot at any point in time without announcement or external discussion.** Why should I invest in a lore where this is the case?

For this reason I think the old lore was better. I could actually invest in it, it was engaging. The new lore is not engaging because I don't trust Riot with my investment anymore, for good reason.

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/story-art/LtBeg85P-characters-in-the-new-lore

Darrosh Jewfist7 votes

This is a point that's brought up often and again that I feel the board still doesn't fully realize the terrifying extent of.

There's no point investing or caring about lore if anything is on the table to be retconned.

Yes, some reworks are welcomed and lauded like the Sion rework. Where the goofy League of old is replaced with a more brutal version of itself. The jump in quality of visuals (and to be fair, the lore was there surprisingly) aided in accepting the change.

But with champions like Trundle and Xer'ath, characters who people may actually like and see as serious attempts by previous Riot writers to break the generic mold, only to have their characters get retconned hammered into generic... that can be disheartening.

Imagine if Anivia, following the tread of mystical animal characters not speaking, suddenly just make bird calls. Or Annie is retconned into a teenager (okay, done right this can be kind of cool - Teenage Annie ultimate skin?)

;_;

And Sneak brings up another good point, Narrative doesn't communicate why these changes are occurring very well... at all. It doesn't help that most of these changes occur and then the community interactions happen after the fact - where Q&A sessions and random red posts start to seem more like damage control instead of interaction.

Probably because they like shock value/reveals.

PapaGreg217 votes

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Frosty Hoodoo6 votes

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Still better than Rammus lore.

"The mysteries that surround Rammus are numerous. How did a simple creature of the desert suddenly become able to reason? How did he craft his vaunted suit of armor? What is he searching for as he crosses the Shuriman desert? One thing is for certain: trying to stop the inexorable Rammus is a fool's mission."

Apparently even the people that created his lore don't know anything about him. I feel like the mysteries surrounding every character are numerous at this point.

Which is why I like this old lore better.

"Ravaged by Rune Wars long past, the lands south of the Great Barrier are wrecked by chaotic magical storms, leaving the grasp of nature's rule tenuous at best. While abnormal flora or fauna are the norm rather than the exception in these ruined areas, perhaps none is more curious than the case of Rammus. While no one is entirely certain why an armadillo from the Shurima Desert crossed the Kumungu Jungle into the Plague Jungles, Rammus made just such a journey. There, amongst the twisted vines and festering rot, he came across an oddity - a healthy evergreen hedge maze, stretching as far as the eye could see. As he explored the maze, something compelled him towards its center - a light, a presence of some kind. As he drew closer, the light surged, blinding him and knocking him unconscious.

When he awoke, Rammus' whole world had changed. The maze had vanished and he felt truly cognizant for the first time in his otherwise unremarkable life. As his predicament dawned on him, Rammus had a moment of panic. As he trembled, the earth around him began to shake, the intensity increasing until he managed to steady himself. As the quake receded, Rammus arose and left the Plague Jungles in search of others like him. His search brought him across all the lands south of the Great Barrier, but everywhere he went, he was unique. The hardships of this sojourn inspired him to craft the suit of armor that would earn him the title of Armordillo. Rammus's quest eventually drew him to the only place where a sentient armadillo is less than confounding - the League of Legends."

"I've seen a lot of things, but this... this is a first."
― Ezreal, the Prodigal Explorer, after first meeting Rammus
Darrosh Jewfist8 votes

I especially love that last line.

With the old pre-retcon League/Institute as a sort of celebrity champion battle ground you could totally have these interactions. Characters that otherwise wouldn't give each other the time of day (like say Teemo and Prince Jarvan and Soraka) have an avenue to communicate and interact.

You can get champions discussing other champions. And that sort of stuff is just much interesting than another 'lone champion' trope.

This is why the Playtime with Gnar is so fun to read, because you got the sense that these characters are more than just beatdown machines in the Rift but actual people doing their job with a slice of comedy thrown in to make the day easier.

BUT OF COURSE THE RIFT IS RETCONNED SO PLAYTIME WITH GNAR IS NOT CANON EVER.

Sneak Dog6 votes

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/story-art/RdkEIREJ-short-stories-xerathunbound

Compare it with this, as this format seems to be their eventual goal.

Fried Noob5 votes

Most of the old lore made little sense, with many champions having no reason (or moronic reasons) to join the IoW, but the Lore team is dragging their heels with the retcon and so people are getting pissed that the summary lore is all we have and want the old lore back.

Darrosh Jewfist6 votes

What does Kalista, Bard, Azir, Rek'Sai, and etc... what do any of these champions think of the other?

(1) Kalista's a spirit of vengeance that probably doesn't sppear for very long at all. (2) Bard... appears when he wants to and leaves - doesn't deal with mortal affairs (3) Rek'Sai's stuck in the desert (4) Azir is ruling a bunch of literal sand people

The individual designs are cool and neat and aided HEAVILY by the visuals.

But lore and story wise these champs just got *nuthin' *to do with each other. At all. And if there's some connection between them I'm not seeing - Narrative's clearly not elaborating on it.

Takeuchi 175 votes

that sad moment, when you realize destiny set a trend for story making......

LostSoul6661 votes

[{quoted}](name=Takeuchi 17,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=wKvoR9vX,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2015-03-16T17:21:52.567+0000)

that sad moment, when you realize destiny set a trend for story making......

Destiny's story is by far the WORST story I have seen in a game in quite awhile. It's even worse when you find out what they originally had planned for the game.

Takeuchi 172 votes

lol thats the point my comment. the "story" was horrible and practically non-existent. the new lore in league is becoming just as bad and chopped down. Bungie really disappointed me there and I'd really rather not see Riot make the same mistake

Yuki Akuma5 votes

Because they hired a fanfic writer to write their lore, and this person also changed Finales Funkeln to English for "pronunciation issues"

Motajo1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Yuki Akuma,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=wKvoR9vX,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2015-03-16T21:29:41.334+0000)and this person also changed Finales Funkeln to English for "pronunciation issues"

I wouldn't really be surprised, but I'm not sure we can narrow the FF fiasco down to a single person. Do you have a source?

PerishSoftly1 votes

Finales Funkeln? That's pronounced "Lay-zer" right? Doesn't seem very hard to pronounce.

ActuallyArrow4 votes

Is it just me, or does: The old lore read like a story, and the new lore reads like they are trying too hard to sound "professional", and not worrying about the story?

Hexagoat4 votes

His judgement is pretty good to

Kyloz2 votes

New reverse psychology meta

Tesla Effect1 votes

Somebody here dont do the full research (shrug) before they complain.

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