Would the term "Crusader" be inappropriate for League's world?

darkdill·May 10, 2016·3 votes·1,366 views

I'm having one of my Champion Concepts given the title of "The Dark Crusader", but would such a moniker be inappropriate for the setting?

EDIT: To put it in perspective, my Champion, Celes, is part of the Demacian Crusaders, an order of the king's knights dedicated to hunting down demons, dark wizards, Void monsters, etc. Their Crusade, so to speak, is against evil forces that threaten to corrupt or destroy Demacia and its people. They aren't necessarily nobility or military, but they're still honored and revered by the Demacian people for keeping them safe from those things that "go bump in the night".

Celes, however, has the complication of being bound to a cursed Darkin sword called Ebonmere, which forces her to embrace a dark side to herself. She wants to use this dark power for good, but it has its price.

25 Comments

RalanrMay 10, 20161 votes

I really like the term crusader. Also the term paladin.

We need some crusaders and paladins in league.

DigielfMay 10, 20161 votes

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I really like the term crusader. Also the term paladin.

We need some crusaders and paladins in league.

we already have 3 paladins Kayle Leona Taric and anything is appropriate with League including crusader

BlitzidiousMay 10, 20161 votes

Would Garen be qualified as a Crusader?

RalanrMay 10, 20161 votes

They aren't called such in their titles though.

The Last BalladMay 11, 20161 votes

Kayle is more of an Angle, and Taric used to be a paladin, but now is closer to being a god.

ShatteredSkysMay 10, 20161 votes

No I think it's personally fine , what's wrong with it?

cocacolalipsMay 10, 20161 votes

There is no crusade without religion and there is no religion in Runeterra.

Slushi SimcambiMay 10, 201612 votes

... Um. Nah.

Illaoi would like a fcking word.

cocacolalipsMay 10, 20161 votes

Religion as properly established in Runeterra, and recognized as such with lots of followers.

There are 7 billions people on Earth yet we don't have 7 billions different religions to account for everyone's fantasies and quirks. Illaoi is no exception.

LuminosNMay 10, 201610 votes

Illaoi kinda has a whole island where people lived for generations believing in Nagakabouros

cocacolalipsMay 10, 20161 votes

Ya, reading her lore, it goes quite into details about it, it's fine. I wish she didn't pop out of nowhere with a religion all for herself and the whole thing was better implemented as part of the Runeterra World, it's too easy to pop random islands all over the place with random religions no one has ever heard of despite being there for thousand years.

The Last BalladMay 11, 20165 votes

The whole of Bilgewater believes in the Bearded Lady, to an extent.(but not nearly as much as Illaoi)

Jeddy017May 10, 20168 votes

Uh yes, there is religion in Runeterra. There just aren't any religions based on real world religions. So a crusader is a possible thing in Runeterra. So long as the religion the crusader is crusading for is mostly fictitious.

cocacolalipsMay 10, 20161 votes

Find me a single piece of Lore with an established societal organisation with sacred texts holy places and what not, followed by a large portion of the Runeterra population. Then we can talk.

And no Demacia Ionia Noxus etc are not religions, those are nations.

Jeddy017May 10, 20164 votes

Who said anything about Demacia or Noxus?

Oh & to answer your question:Here & right here & all over here too. Praise the Sun

The lore team at Riot (Narrative & Foundations) is not against the idea of religion, so long as it's not based of any real world religions. In a vast world like Runeterra, it would actually make no sense for there to be no type of religions. Riot can even create more religions so long as it suits the culture of the regions so they can make champions based of said religion.

cocacolalipsMay 10, 20161 votes

Mhm, there is no notion of god or universe in any of these entries, they casually talk about worship but I can worship a chair too and that doesn't make it a religion. Although it is suggested that Mt Targon is some kind of holy place of sort even though it doesn't go into details, so i guess there is that, Pretty iffy.

SkelenthMay 10, 20162 votes

Illaoi is part of a religion

The Last BalladMay 11, 20164 votes

Karthus. He was a priest of the religion that may not worship Kindred, but they(kindred) are the entire point of the religion. Then Karthus started his own sect of it, but with more death.

The sun worshippers of the Shuriman Empire. They had an entire library of teachings.

The Solari, who also worship the sun, and have a huge library.

The Lunari, who worship the moon, and had a library of texts on their religion.

Everyone in the endless Galaxy who has worshipped Aurelion. Chances are that they had texts about it.

Ionia has a religion that is kind of like Hindu, where they put a ton of importance on spirits and their ancestors.

Taliyah's religion, to which we don't know the name. She worships the Great Weaver.

Volibear's clan worships the storm and lightning.

The Void cult. The one Malzahar is running.

Elise's Vilemaw cult. It may be a trap, but she does have a temple, writings, a high priestess(herself), and pilgrimages. Even an afterlife, what with the eternal torment in Vilemaw's stomach.

Yorick's religion of death.

Udyr's shamanistic religion.

Tahm Kench has a loose religion as well.

And if you did worship a chair, that would be a religion. The chair would be your idol, and whatever you do to venerate it would be the rites. "Religion" is such a loose term.

So yes, there is plenty of religions, even if not all of them follow the "sit down and have mass" way we are used to.

cocacolalipsMay 11, 20161 votes

You are confusing everything, religions, ideologies, sects, spiritual traditions, plain beliefs, actions not related to any religion. Religion is not a loose term at all, it is a system of ideas and ideals supported by theology and the notion of a god or gods (with an actual name) and cosmonogy and the notion of the universe, shared by a community.

Despite what you might think, there are only 20-ish recognized major religions in the world (>0.1% population) and a bit over 4000 recollection of faith groups (=/= recognized religions, most of them are most likely bs)

Ebonmaw DragonMay 11, 20161 votes

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Mhm, there is no notion of god

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EmbertineMay 10, 20161 votes

Solari is but a small religious group upon mount Tagon. You say it's not a religion simply because it doesn't span even so much as one single nation?

Jeddy017May 10, 20161 votes

Crusader should be an appropriate term for the League world. It's not tied to any specific real world religions.

Tesla EffectMay 10, 20161 votes

That would suggest that Runeterra had in its history a or multiple Crusades. All of our Crusades, even the name Crusades, are liked with the Christian faith...and there is no indication that Runeterra has anything close resembling a Christian Church, even in terms of practises.

EmbertineMay 10, 20161 votes

Yes it would be okay. A crusader is merely a warrior, often times a religious one, whom in on a crusade. The simple act of going on a crusade makes them a crusader.

So the question is this. . . .What is it your champion is in search of? What has driven him to take up this crusade?

DecritMay 11, 20161 votes

Well, Diana was considered a crusader for a good while. The term crusade was born with the christian crusades but it extended to every faith or religion that wants to impose themselves over others.