Could I get in contact?

Roozyj·5/25/2016, 9:33:20 AM·9 votes·4,815 views

@WAARGHbobo

I've tried to find a more personal or direct way to do this, but as there seems to be no way to PM on this site, and no e-mail adress to be found, I guess I have to try this.

Ever since I've seen the first teasers of Jhin, I've been in love with the character and the more lore I read, the more my love grew (like a flower in the dawn ;) ) I think the way you write is just awesome, and I mostely came here just to tell you that.

Now, I'm an aspiring writer myself and (partly due to a lack of having a life) I've been writing fanfictions about Jhin. I don't want to ask you to read all of the 6500 words of my (rather smutty) four-shot-to-be, but I would be thrilled if you'd want to read something I've written or maybe even just post some general tips, mostely about creating atmosphere.

I'd actually wanted to say this in an e-mail, and then I'd probably spent more time telling all the things that I love about Jhin's lore and everything, but it feels kind of awkward to worship an other person like that on a community forum, so you'll have to believe me that I had reasons to love your work :)

edit: by the way, If I say feedback, I'm talking about 'tell me everything that's wrong with it and don't spare me' feedback. I did art academy, I can take the hit :P

edit 2: I just saw in the guidelines that I'm not allowed to post (this kind of) fanfiction here... I'm sorry ^^' I'll remove the link again :)

36 Comments

RiotRiotJaredan5/25/2016, 11:45:20 PM8 votes

WAARGH is out of the office at the moment, but I'll let him know!

Blood Magicks5/26/2016, 12:11:36 AM4 votes

(rather smutty)

uh

Decrit5/25/2016, 12:49:50 PM3 votes

Just sayin that if you want a rioter to see your post you have to put the @name in the title, and not at the beginning of the post. this way they can sort out the posts with the search function better.

DoctorInju5/27/2016, 11:24:31 AM3 votes

"6500 words" "rather smutty"

Let's get Jhin-timate.

RiotWAAARGHbobo5/27/2016, 10:30:21 PM3 votes

Hmmmm.. I think you can post the link to a post someplace else. --I'll give it a look there. (ideally someplace I can leave my feedback on)

I applaud you finishing a story about the golden demon-- and having the courage to ask for feedback.

Illaoi approves.

Alois Cupcakes5/28/2016, 12:53:06 AM3 votes

Gibberish is the language of writers :) Just write, write and write. Go back and sharpie the crap out of your first draft and keep going. Own your gibberish xD And thank you.. albeit Mrs. Nomad. Mr. Nomad is currently playing the rotated League weekend map ;) I do have a lot of stories, but mostly I translate for technical manuals. I'm not sure if I have good stories, but I do have stories. Mostly about the people as I love to people watch. Cultures are extremely defined and they don't recognize how ingrained it is until there's an outsider. Tourist traps are fascinating sources of information. The States are funny that way as there is so much culture here but people want to bring up their DNA from generations past and refuse to recognize what they were given by their ancestors traveling here. Americans really need to own their culture, embrace it and learn from it.

I digress. Go write :)

Alois Cupcakes5/26/2016, 8:53:27 PM2 votes

English is my fifth language, so I'm not sure how that matters. The point is that this fanfic isn't written well. It's fulfilling a sexual fantasy based on imaginary characters from a video game. And who says nothing is wrong with porn? There are as many studies to show how detrimental it is to people's health as much as mainstream wants us to believe it's okay. Regardless of that- it's against the board rules, and I am digressing.

I have a degree in Liberal Arts and am, by definition, a professional writer. I gave King as an example so it would be understood that the lurid details of a sex scene does not make a story well written, or even the "scene" for that matter. If your goal is soft porn, then it's mostly okay but it's still very redundant in many parts. I'm not going to point them out here on this forum as I would be breaking the rules.

Here are some books for helping you with writing, if uni is out of the question.

'The Elements of Style' - William Strunk and E.B. White 'The Only Grammar Book You'll Ever Need' Susan Thurman Larry Shea 'The Verbal Advantage' - Charles H Elster

  • Read more books in general; good books and bad books. Read the top sellers and read the shitty free novels from amazon.
  • Read until your eyes bleed.
  • After a first draft of any writing, you want to shove it away for about a week and relax on it. Pull it out again and go over with a giant sharpie and hone down what you want. Read it out loud while you go over the story's first draft- your ears are a better critic than your inside voice (the inside voice is always narcissistic).
  • Take the story to someone outside of your circle and ask them to be a critic. No one inside writing circles wants to be a "jerk."
  • Write everything but the sex scenes first- don't worry about those. If you don't have an actual character development before and after those scenes then all those scenes will do is confuse the reader and come out cheap and trite.

Edit: I had the reaction I did because of the writing. If I come across strong it's because I feel strongly about reading and books and stories and all those things. The world is full of shitty writers trying to peddle their b.s. I can't tell you how many people in my classes have said "I'm taking English to write the next Harry Potter" because all those people flunked out. Fanfic is the worst way to create stories. If you're serious about writing, write from your own experiences. I cannot stress that enough. If you've never been to Hollywood, or been on a set, how do you know what really happens? There are gaffs and lighters, cameramen, extras; hundreds of people and things on sets that make it a set. What are the thoughts of the people as they go to and from the set to the tables, to the dressing room, makeup room. How are they the way they are? What memories form when they are in between takes? Are the thinking of their bills, their next score, going on a vacation? These little details makes a character believable. Having faults, being sideways. When you take a character from a predefined universe you are stripping away who and what they were meant to be and putting them into a meta-box to fulfill a fantasy. There is no care in the writing, no care in the character development. That's what stands out, that's why I say it's redundant and tripe. Write a story without the sex first and see how far you get. Add those scenes in if they are necessary, but chances are kiss and the boots coming off works even better._ Let the reader have their imagination_. That is why we read books. We can fill in the gaps.

Siaanna5/26/2016, 9:47:57 AM2 votes

Dear gawd have mercy on our souls, if you do send the story, don't link it to our ff accoutn, he might start reading the other stuff XD

Alois Cupcakes5/27/2016, 6:51:51 AM2 votes

Languages: Finish, Russian, Romanian and Greek. I'm thinking of starting Mandarin this summer :)

I hope I have helped. I realized that I sounded like a cad at the start and you wrote as though you did want to improve and I believe there is hope in passion. But before you jump into fanfic, write what you know. Then twist the memories into "could have." Fiction writers are all about creating believable lies (okay and some non-fic, too haha). But hone that skill of storytelling first. Then add other stores of "if this character were here... how would they actually react?" Example:

Draft 1: When I was five years old I truly believed there were crocodiles under my bed. My grandmother was talking to my auntie about someone terrorizing the young girls in the village by putting on crocodile masks and hiding under their bed. I haven't forgotten that story and now I keep a dozen boxes under my bed.

Draft 2. When I was five years old my favourite activity at my grandmother's house was to sit at the top of her giant staircase and watch people walk below or listen to the adults speak in the sitting room or kitchen. I went to grandmother's house every weekend so Mom and Dad could have "Special Time," whatever that was. One fine Saturday morning, after sleeping in and stuffing my tummy with Grandma Waffles, I perched myself on top of that staircase like other weekends I spent there. My legs dangled from between the polished wood columns and over the wall. I was careful not to bang my heel into the wall. In my left hand I held a small pink doll and, in the right hand, I had a little red car. I swung my legs back and forth (carefully!) and listened to my grandmother and my auntie talk in scandalous tones.

"Did you hear what happened to Sander's daughter?" My grandmother asked. "No, I didn't," My auntie replied. "Well, some young man shoved a crocodile mask on his face, hid under her bed, and waited until the evening to grab her legs! Scared her so bad she kicked him in the face and he lost a tooth!" "Why the hell would someone do that?" "Because kids these days are bored and stupid."

I felt my eyes grow wide in my head. Not because my auntie used "hell" (even though I knew it was a Bad Word) but because my brain fantasized that crocodiles could live under someone's bed and grab their ankles. My five year old mind didn't register what a "mask" was, but it sure knew what crocodiles were. Giant lizards who would snatch little girls from under their bed just because they could. I made a vow that Saturday morning; my bed would always be crammed with boxes so no crocodile could ever fit there. I've stuck with that idea well into my 30's. Hell, my current bed doesn't even have a frame, just a couple mattresses on the ground with fluffy pillows on top. No crocs allowed. *

In the first draft I get the gist of the idea out. I get out the who, what, where and when, but not the how. I go back over the story to paint a worded picture of what I was doing at five to have caused me to overhear a story between the two women and how that story crept into my five year imaginative brain. Now we could 'Anne Rice' it and describe the exact details of the staircase, what kind of wood it was, how tall the staircase was, the layout of the house, what my grandmother and auntie were doing based on sounds, but it would take away the picture in the person's mind. And I don't want to be in Architecture Digest. (I love Anne Rice but she has a creepy fascination with house descriptions). The most I might add on the final draft is that they were in the kitchen, off to the side and I could hear dishes being moved around and the sound of water, drawing a conclusion they were washing the morning dishes. Or they could just be sitting at the table, drinking their tea and smoking cloves. To the five year old mind, however, it wouldn't matter, nor would it be something I'd remember. The conversation is what mattered. (To be fair I'm a technical writer, so I'm sure this is dry reading).

Now let's take that into what you want to do- fanfiction of set characters. Give them a life before your story. Like in art, draw a pencil sketch, something you can erase at later points if you think their shirt doesn't fit right. How did their parents treat them? What kind of antics did they get involved? How many love interests have they had? Has their heart been broken? What is the basic story of how they got to the point where you start their story. That's your outline. You can fill in the colours with your story progressing.

When one of the characters in your story is walking to his car, listening to the paved parking lot crunch beneath his feet, what is he thinking? What is he feeling? Is he tired, annoyed? Hungry? This is where you draw from your life. Think about decisions you could have made to land in Hollywood. -Remember that time that girl in the 9th grade called you a "loser" because you wanted to try out for the main part in Fiddler on the Roof "You couldn't get that part if you paid Miss Marsh." Miss Marsh was the drama teacher, old and crinkly, but kind in her own way. I stepped onto that stage and I sung my fucking heart out and you bet your ass I got the lead part and that 9th grade tart who called me a loser is now working at a fast food joint. But me? I got in. I got made. And now here I am, wondering if a part of me is a "loser" after all, trying to get this stupid film finished when all my actors are having drama queen parties instead of sticking to the damn script. - Now you've got a bit of anger with bitterness dashed into the character's frame of mind.

When you draw your characters, there's a starting point right? One line, two lines, a half circle, a triangle... I love comics and graphic novels because the artist never knows where they are going just that they need to get there. The pen can take a mind of its own; let it. Let your memories and the people around you be your guide. If you can write fiction of your own life, you can write fiction of anyone's life (or just about.) And remember: the less said the better. People who love reading have active imaginations- push them into that direction and let their imagination flow.

*The above story is true. The neighbor boy who got caught doing that broke his nose (not his teeth) and it was crooked for the rest of his life. We called him Croc and never let him escape his teenage antics. He ended up marrying the Sander's daughter :)

Alois Cupcakes5/26/2016, 4:57:02 PM2 votes

You linked to pornography. You stole the names from League and put them in some Hollywood scene. They are not "IC". There is no character for them. You took their names and created some weird, warped sexual fantasy about them. That's not writing. The whole idea behind "fanfic" is lazy people who won't think for themselves.

You have no prose, no style. Every time someone speaks you explain HOW they are speaking- you leave nothing up for the imagination of the reader, or other indicators. Your use of English adverbs is appalling. Your "smut" is horribly written. You can have sex scenes without it taking several pages; just look at some of Stephen King's books- most of his sex scenes are no more than a few sentences but are a fit for the book without getting pornographic and redundant. Which is what most of your writing is- redundant tripe.

Over Innsmouth5/25/2016, 11:57:41 PM2 votes

Any chance the rest of us could get a look at your fanfiction? I too adore Jhin and everything about him, and used to (hoping to return to it in the future) write fanfic.

On a side note, love that it's a Four-Shot. Had to be, with Jhin.

Alois Cupcakes5/27/2016, 10:13:10 AM1 votes

I'm a nomad; I go where I feel I should :) I would say I'm most comfortable with Greek; I lived there for five years. I'm told I have a "funny but cute" accent in Russian and I sound Welsh to English speakers (I don't know how I feel about that quite yet) but I have no accent in Romanian. And Finnish _is _a weird language. We sound like the bastard country children of the Netherlands shoved into a Sweedish pie and left to ferment xD

Alois Cupcakes5/26/2016, 7:10:49 AM1 votes

This is.. awful. Please stop sharing.