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@IronStylus @Jaredan A question on the state of Champion's diversity.

GinoSoldier·9/17/2015, 2:18:08 AM·4 votes·962 views

I just wonder what's Riot's opinion on the vast (and getting vast-er) scope of champion (and people) diversity in the world of Runeterra.

Let's pick a few champions not-so-randomly and split them in groups, shall we?

1-Graves and Darius. 2-Janna and Ezreal 3-Azir and Malzahar. 4-Kalista and Anivia. 5-Kindred and Bard.

We respectively have; Human exceptional veterans or geniuses, magically potent humans, magically enhanced/empowered humans, incarnations of concepts/elements, and celestials/gods.

As fantastic as all that diversity is, one wonders how these things add up in the world. Sure, Graves is one badass old man with a big gun; but realistically, if someone like Kalista were to go after his head, how would he survive? He can't outrun her forever, she's undead and can track him. He can't kill her, she wouldn't be much of an actual threat to the world if all it took to kill her was a gun (even if it's a really big one).

What if Bard decided Ezreal's power glove was something to be kept out of human hands? Same situation as with Kalista and Graves. Ezreal can't win. He can stall long enough for a story to end with some suspense, but one way or another, Bard will eventually get that glove. Or the Prodigal Explorer will spend the rest of his days pretty miserably.

I get that the 'A New Dawn' video and the Bilgewater event technically work within these rules as all champions portrayed were all from groups 1-2 which are sensibly at the same level of power, but in a story driven fight, how does one portray a mere mortal like Graves attempt to take out godlike world powers like Kindred's? Works for the game, but...

Or am i just thinking too much?

8 Comments

A Superb Villain9/17/2015, 2:49:20 AM2 votes

You can never think too much.

I understand your concern that the relative scope of power some champions possess seems significantly greater than others, the largest offenders being Bard and Kindred. However, I like to believe that, while there is some variance in power, every entity unveiled thus far has limitations.

Bard, for example is quite powerful, but he is not omnipotent nor omnipresent. In Bard: Mountain he proved most capable in performing his role as caretaker, but keep in mind he never directly confronted anyone, simply collecting the egg and fleeing. The same limitations apply to Kindred who must hunt down their targets, one by one. They excel in their respective areas of expertise, but falter when pushed outside of those circumstances.

They are immortal not invincible.

GreenLore9/17/2015, 11:23:51 AM2 votes

I think that even the more supernatural beings have their own limits

If kindred hunts you and you manage to kill them,then they probably won't really perish,but they might leave you alone.

Bard has the ability to watch over the world and appear where he sees it as necessary,but that doesn't mean you can't hurt/kill him.

To get on your Graves/kalista arguement: What if guns are able to hurt and even destroy kalista?As long as kalista is good enough to dodge gunfire,to outmaneuver her opponents regardless,she'd be still a huge threat.The power is not in the gun alone,its also in the ability to use it correctly.

Goldsmith9/17/2015, 12:30:32 PM1 votes

Lore-wise I don't think any of the God-like champs are currently in direct conflict with any of the weaker characters. Unless you count Warwick and Soraka I guess. Most of the fighting is between the tier 1-2 characters.

Star Guardían9/17/2015, 7:11:15 PM1 votes

This is were the lore and the game differ.

Game wise every champion is on a level footing with each other. Otherwise the game would be broken and champs like Bard would be OP pick or ban each game.

Lore wise, champs that are magical/god-like/creature Nasus, Bard etc. are waaay more powerful than your average "human" Runeteran. Ex) in game if a Rek'sai and Sivir were to 1v1 the out come would depend on the skill of the players. Lore wise if Sivir were to 1v1 Rek'sai she'd be committing suicide.

Also on a side note, I'd like to believe that not every champion will interact with every other champion . Also, maybe magic was more prevalent in different time period or places in Runeterra than in others.