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@Riot, What Makes A Champion Different From A Random Citizen From Runeterra?

Impetual··4 votes·733 views

Something?

Nothing?

Back in the days of the Institute of War (I hope I don't get downvotes for referencing the original LoL lore) champions were people that had special status within Runeterra. They fought battles for the Institute of War in return for favors and perks. Usually champions were participating in the League of Legends to further their own personal political agenda.

It created some incredibly interesting story concepts.

Post Riot's Lore retcon, being a champion doesn't seem to mean anything anymore.

@any Rioter's out there, I'd really be interested in hearing what you consider a modern day champion to be?

Edit: Why do Riot fanboys hate one pretty much every legitimate criticism of the Retcon these days?

Player feedback via constructive criticism helps keep RIot in touch with their playerbase.

And if enough players show that they care about the lore of Runeterra, maybe Riot will invest in it as much as they used to.

13 Comments

Sharjo4 votes

Well there's some easy criteria:

  • Are they influential in Runeterra in some way? Nationally, globally and locally are all fine.
  • Have they achieved something incredible?
  • Are they perhaps a unique entity with some special purpose?
  • Are they immensely powerful, either in a political, physical or magical sense?
  • Are they reputable in some way?

There's probably even more I could add, but you get the idea. Every champion in the game fits in to one or more of those criteria.

Impetual1 votes

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Well there's some easy criteria:

  • Are they influential in Runeterra in some way? Nationally, globally and locally are all fine.
  • Have they achieved something incredible?
  • Are they perhaps a unique entity with some special purpose?
  • Are they immensely powerful, either in a political, physical or magical sense?
  • Are they reputable in some way?

There's probably even more I could add, but you get the idea. Every champion in the game fits in to one or more of those criteria.

Is power everything? Shouldn't a champion of Runeterra stand for something beyond being a mere thug?

Sharjo1 votes

Damn took you a while to respond.

Also where is the insinuation that the above criteria makes them a thug? Ekko achieved something great in building a time machine and he's not a thug. Miss Fortune's pretty reputable in Bilgewater considering her actions but isn't a thug. Rammus is a pretty unique entity who just goes around saying "OK.", so how is that thug-like?

I don't get where you're getting that the criteria I made there automatically makes everyone who falls in to it a thug. And I'm gonna keep saying thug because I feel like the word's not being used right in the entirety of this conversation.

Impetual1 votes

{quoted}

Damn took you a while to respond.

Also where is the insinuation that the above criteria makes them a thug? Ekko achieved something great in building a time machine and he's not a thug. Miss Fortune's pretty reputable in Bilgewater considering her actions but isn't a thug. Rammus is a pretty unique entity who just goes around saying "OK.", so how is that thug-like?

I don't get where you're getting that the criteria I made there automatically makes everyone who falls in to it a thug. And I'm gonna keep saying thug because I feel like the word's not being used right in the entirety of this conversation.

Sorry if I'm not posting as often lately, I'm just really finding it hard to care about this game's lore these days.

I'm sure that many players who've gotten into this game recently may not be able to understand that, but as someone who's stuck with this game from season 1, it's pretty heartbreaking to see how much lore content and lore releases have changed...

In my opinion, they've changed for the worse.

The quantity of lore released has dropped dramatically, and while the quality of the new lore vs the old lore is debatable,** the new lore lacks the evolving world of Runeterra** that the old lore provided.

These days, new champions/lore don't seem to advance the story of Runeterra as a whole, thus making Runeterra feel stagnant.

TurquoiseYoshi1 votes

The main feature of champions is that they're really freaking powerful. Even the weakest-looking champions are more powerful than all humans.

Dreamspitter1 votes

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The main feature of champions is that they're really freaking powerful. Even the weakest-looking champions are more powerful than all humans.

Um......No.

TurquoiseYoshi1 votes

Well then who's weaker than humans?

Dreamspitter1 votes

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Well then who's weaker than humans?

Huh?

I'd say they're all about equal.

TurquoiseYoshi1 votes

So you can shoot fire out of your hands, or make a sapling randomly appear, or do whatever the fuck Bard does? Or at least do something on an equal level to that?

Dreamspitter1 votes

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So you can shoot fire out of your hands, or make a sapling randomly appear, or do whatever the fuck Bard does? Or at least do something on an equal level to that?

I think you misunderstood.

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The main feature of champions is that they're really freaking powerful. **Even the weakest-looking champions are more powerful than all humans. **

Or rather your statement was phrased poorly -and I misunderstood. We have** human** champions.

"The main feature of champions is that they're really freaking powerful."

That's true.

"Even the weakest-looking champions are more powerful than all humans."

Except there are human champions, which make up a significant number of the roster (even discounting Ascended, Undead, transhumans like Viktor, Ahri, Lissandra) So that statement isnt correct.

And then you have to consider some champions are not very extraordinary at all exactly, save for that they have magic weapons -which is not an ability of the character themselves. Consider these champions in comparison to the rest of the roster: Ekko Ezreal Ashe Draven Jayce Sejuani Lucian Graves Caitlyn Darius Sivir

They range from Caitlyn/Graves (could MOSTLY be compared somewhat to some real life equivalent) to Lucian only special because of a magic weapon which -ANYONE in the setting could use. Anyone.

#But remember what the title of the THREAD is.

"Riot, What Makes A Champion Different From A Random Citizen From Runeterra?"

So this thread is ONLY about in setting.

And, even if you meant that "Even the weakest champions are much more powerful than average humans within the setting" (and really this probably applies to most races) -you have to realize: This is a setting in which there are magical academies at which you can study magic. (ala Hogwarts). Currently in the post retcon setting, many champions may be exceptional, but not necessarily totally unique. However, we are point blank told that some champions are prodigies at what they do like Lux Ekko Heimerdinger Ziggs Viktor Janna but this is still a baseline magical setting.

LyrebirdSong1 votes

I imagine them to have achieved a level of mastery over whatever they work on beyond that of many in their field. For example, Quinn is a scout, but not just any scout. Her incredible bond with Valor has made her an indispensible part of Demacia's forces. Her exploits have made her a household name.

insaiyanbacca1 votes

from what i can tell champions are eithe rlegends and powerful entities in the universe/runeterra(bard, aatrox, morde?, etc), or they are just powerful warriors/mages

Decrit1 votes

{quoted}

Back in the days of the Institute of War (I hope I don't get downvotes for referencing the original LoL lore) champions were people that had special status within Runeterra. They fought battles for the Institute of War in return for favors and perks. Usually champions were participating in the League of Legends to further their own personal political agenda.

Nothing wrong on referencing the old lore, but honestly even the old lore had hella faults. Champions wer enot defined for what they were or for the capabilities they had, but because they were picked by the IoW. Usually this picking happens for said reasons, but other times is pretty much random, like Lulu and Amumu compared to Ashe, Swain and Veigar.

At least now champions are people that are "remarkable people worth playing", in a very metagamist sense, rather than "people that just happens to be picked".

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