Can anyone Clarify when exactly Sion Died?

SolarPWNage··4 votes·1,259 views

I just want to apologize to anyone becoming more confused after reading this post, but I hope I clarify my question enough for the majority of readers to understand.

But here are the websites I received my information on, If you are confused to what I am saying you can refer to these links

http://promo.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/reborn/ http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/The_Black_Rose

Ok, I was reading Sion's lore and it said he killed Jarvan the first and i assumed J1 was J4's great-grandfather

Now back to J1 and Sion, since the oldest someone can get and still be able to fight is around 70 years old which can put J2 at the oldest in his early 50's. which puts J3 at most around mid 40's and J4 at most mid twenties. But I'm actually assuming that J4 is really in his mid to late 30's in the present LOL game. So at the earliest, Sion died around 10 years ago. But I really doubt that the Jarvans had their children in their late teens so if they actually having their children in their early twenties, this puts Sion to die around 30-ish years before if J1 was in his late 60's when J1 died as well.

But there is a section called "seed of doubt" where Leblanc, Vlad and another guy addressing the great general (Boram Darkwill) losing his greatest supporter (which I assumed it is Sion) as if Sion just died. However, the "Seed of Doubt" really confused me, I figured that both Vlad and Leblanc are at most in their late 30's. So this raises the question, is Leblanc really the deceiver and is in fact in her 60's and uses her magic to make her appearance youthful and Vlad is using magic to look youthful as well?

It also brought up another issue, dead flesh preservation is about 30-40 years in air tight tomb for the flesh to start to lose most of its moister/fluid (using Pope John XXIII's example). but seeing that Sion may was never intended to be resurrected in the future would have him decaying to a skeleton in around 10 years in an air tight tomb. which my theory would result Leblanc resurrecting Sion 10 years after his death would in fact have him looking like a skeleton.

However if he was preserved with magic, it might make more sense and throw everything I wrote in the paragraph above out the window. But the issue between the conversation in "Seed of Doubt" and J1 and Sion's fight still confuses me. I personally felt Sion died around 40-50 years prior to League of Legends present day but if it was 10 years ago, it really messes with the lore.

Or am I getting this all mixed up in the "Seed of Doubt", they were talking about someone else and Sion actually died around 30-50 years ago and in Sion's memorial speech delivered by Boram is referencing to Boram Darkwill's early career as a soldier/commander in his earl twenties if we assume Boram is in his late 60's to early 70's?

I might also be mixing Sion's old lore with the new since riot is reworking the lore, I might have been confused there.

If anyone can help me answer this question I would really appreciated it, If any rioter can help, it would gave me some peace of mind. Thanks!

edit: I messed up in my info, Vlad resurrected Sion :p

14 Comments

GreenLore4 votes

Leblanc is a title that is passed down among the leaders of the black rose. So the leblanc in "a seed of doubt" might not be the same as our current Leblanc,but her predecessor.

There is also no information about Vlad being one of the other black rose members.Vlad didn't resurrect Sion,he only reprogrammed him. Though it is possible that vlad could extent his life with his blood magic.

The timeline pretty much goes like: 1.Sion dies 2.Boram searches for a way to revive Sion,this happens shortly after Sions death,probably in the same year. 3.Sion is resurrected by the black Rose(note that the Leblanc from that time isn't necessarily the same as our Leblanc,since Leblanc is a title that gets passed down among the leaders of the black rose),this probably also happens within the same year in which Sion died. 4.The still undead Sion proves to be too difficult to control and gets locked up in his tomb,Sion is still undead,which is most likely why he doesn't decay. 5.Several years pass and the people start to forget the whole sion fiasco 6.Swain finds stories about Sion and with the help of vlad and the black rose manages to reprogram sions mind for his purpose.

SolarPWNage1 votes

so when do you assume he died? 40 years ago? Boram talks about being a witness of sion's death so it must be at most within 50 years.

GreenLore3 votes

Keep in mind that Boram was said to prolong his own life through the use of necromancy. Its not normal that the guy managed to live from the time of Jarvan 1 to the time where J4 is already a grown man. So I wouldn't use Borams existence as a reference point.

We don't know the exact numbers,so it could be anything from 40 years in the past to 100 years in the past,based on the birthdates of the jarvans.

SolarPWNage1 votes

The reason I say 40-50 years ago is that it was possible that when Sion fought J1 at the time J1 could be around 60 looking like sylvester stallone or like Arnold Schwarzenegger, J2 around late thirties and J3 is mid teens. which in 40 years could put J3 around late fifties and J4 around early thirties.

Boram at the time could be in his early to mid or possibly in late twenties and in around forty years, he would be in his mid to late sixties or early seventies when he was replaced by swain. which is pretty acceptable age to rule a nation.

GreenLore2 votes

Yeah,but you don't even need to think about that,because as i said,Boram prolonged his life with necromancy.

That was originally stated in the JoJ,but its also mentioned in the Sion promo that boram was skilled in the use of necromancy,so it can be still assumed to be canon.

SolarPWNage1 votes

Yeah, that's true. However, we can safely assume that it might be around 80 years ago that Sion died?

AbiwonKenabi1 votes

Bravo GreenLore, you answered everything I was going to answer. Even the part about Boram having an artificially long life via necromancy.

2000boxes2 votes

don't forget that sion's lower jaw is j3's crown so that means he had to have been resurrected recent enough so that j3's crown didn't rust or break

GreenLore3 votes

Actually its J1s crown.

J3 is still the king of demacia.

2000boxes1 votes

then that means his death is a lot more recent than we thought and by that i mean that probably makes j4 around 20 years old or 25

SolarPWNage1 votes

I don't think J4 is in his twenties, or else he would look like Ezreal. J4 should be in his mid 30's at best.

2000boxes1 votes

ezreal could be 16 for all we know

SolarPWNage1 votes

IDK man, ez and lux are banging.... would think they might at the youngest 18 yrs old...

Tesla Effect1 votes

At least a 100 Years ago.

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