[Lore Question] Which would be stronger, A targonian Aspect or Xerath.

King Braum·9/16/2019, 7:17:36 AM·3 votes·8,076 views

Just a quick tid bit I was thinking off, According to Aurelion Sol, the power of the sun disc is mere a pale imitation of his sun's power. And as far as we know Ascended are inferior in nearly every way to the Aspects. We also know that some Aspects such as DIana can create such powerful artifacts that they hold off countless void hordes while the Shuriman Ascended needed physical armies to preform similar feats.

On the other side though, Xerath isn't a normal Ascended and actually carries so much power of the sundisc that it drained the disc of it's power and destroyed his body. We also know that on rare occassions such as with Aatrox, a (former) Ascended can both overpower and kill an Aspect such as the aspect of war.

I dont know, just something to ponder about.

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RyzeTheSmurfMage9/16/2019, 8:27:13 AM3 votes

Xerath def. Aspects need a lot of time to grow to their full strenght. Most of our Aspect champs are young and thus quite weak with the exception of Zoe, the only fully developed Aspect. Meanwhile Xerath is the strongest Ascended ever. It's not rly a contest Also, Diana didn't "slaughter entire hordes of Voidborns". She killed a bunch. The Ascended fought one of the biggest Void invasions in the history of Runeterra

Tobykachu9/16/2019, 8:43:21 AM2 votes

It depends on the Aspect. Given that someone such as Aatrox could beat Pantheon, it’s likely that Xerath could too, but someone such as Zoe? I doubt it.

Posui Gart9/16/2019, 7:37:59 AM2 votes

Xerath was said to be somewhat equal in strength to Aatrox(being able to 1v1 him in open area duel but losing to him in something like a city or battlefield). Meanwhile most Aspects are not like Pantheon. They don't take full control of the host, so I assume such aspect-host power would be weaker than Pantheon. This results in Xerath being somewhat stronger than Aspects like Diana. But he probably can only kill the host(like Asol did) and not the Aspect itself(like Aatrox did). Also I could magine Aspect of Twilight doing some behind-the-scenes plotting to match Xerath against something at his level and finishing the weakened winner instead of going for a fair 1v1. Or a group of Aspects could unite to fight him. Or someone could call Sol and ask him to throw some stars at Xerath.

Ebonmaw Dragon9/16/2019, 6:26:52 PM1 votes

I think that Xerath would win.

Darkins were Ascended, and Xerath is stronger than most, if not all, the other Ascended.

The Aspects, the Trickster specifically, had to trick the Darkins in order to defeat them... that means that even Zoe would not be able to defeat the Ascended/Darkins in a direct fight. Since Xerath seems to be the strongest Ascended, it is clear to me that he wins.

Basically im saying that, as we know, Aspects are inferior in nearly every way to the Ascended... because they had to use "cheats" to defeat them.

Schenix9/16/2019, 6:58:30 PM1 votes

Let's take Aatrox. A former Ascended.

He considers Jax a worthy opponent. By extension, we can say Jax might be able to fight Xerath, however they are not comparable to duel like Aatrox and Jax are.

Xerath is a being of energy, Aatrox is of a blade. There is no fight here, Xerath wins off attrition. Whether or not their power is equal is of little consequence. Aatrox being nigh immortal however is a slight advantage as Xerath can still die.

Now let's move on to Xerath or Aatrox fighting an Aspect. Either can kill the host. However, only Aatrox himself has definitively separated host from Aspect, killing it or at least a part of it. If he can do so with his own power (his blade is him), then Xerath theoretically can. An aspect like Zoe or Diana could keep him at bay, but an aspect like Pantheon would struggle.

A battle needs to be on the grounds that there is one. is on a magnitude that Xerath can combat given enough time to amass his power, but Aatrox would not be able to harm regardless of time passed. Whether or not Aatrox unleashed could do so is up to speculation entirely. Sol is a celestial, but the point is meant to decipher how a standard metric needs to be established.

Script or Stack9/17/2019, 1:46:24 AM1 votes

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Just a quick tid bit I was thinking off, According to Aurelion Sol, the power of the sun disc is mere a pale imitation of his sun's power. And as far as we know Ascended are inferior in nearly every way to the Aspects. We also know that some Aspects such as DIana can create such powerful artifacts that they hold off countless void hordes while the Shuriman Ascended needed physical armies to preform similar feats.

On the other side though, Xerath isn't a normal Ascended and actually carries so much power of the sundisc that it drained the disc of it's power and destroyed his body. We also know that on rare occassions such as with Aatrox, a (former) Ascended can both overpower and kill an Aspect such as the aspect of war.

I dont know, just something to ponder about.

The average ascended is not weaker than the average aspect in my opinion. The ascended get super human speed, reactions and regeneration. The aspects however powerful they may be still are limited to a human body. This is why I think the average ascended triumphs over the average aspect. So yeah unless one of the aspects uses some alternative form of magic or does some plotting to make in an unfair fight, Xerath will win 9/10.

Daddy Viktor9/17/2019, 2:06:03 AM1 votes

Chad Xerath > Virgin Zoe Xerath > Zoe

CadmusRa9/17/2019, 2:19:42 AM1 votes

An interesting tidbit to add to this is that Xerath was also trapped battling Renekton for centuries, or at least until he corrupted his mind and Cassiopeia released them. Would that mean that in his time fighting Xerath, Xerath and Renekton were equal in at least combat power until Xerath went for the mind and not the body?

GreenLore9/16/2019, 12:33:14 PM1 votes

In most cases I'd say that Xerath wins. In the newest lore of Pantheon we see him face off against a being who is strongly hinted to be Xerath and the lore ends without a conclusion for the fight, which is almost certainly because showing Pantheons defeat in his own color story would likely make him look weak.

The only aspect who might be strong enough is Zoe.

mrmeddyman9/16/2019, 6:14:21 PM1 votes

It's not 1 to 1 Aspects beat Ascended. They do have disparate power rankings ESPECIALLY among the Aspects

Zoe Kayle Pantheon for example are much more powerful then Diana Leona Taric

Meanwhle the guys at Riot have stated Aatrox is pretty much god-tier and although he is Darkin he is still an Ascended being.

Aatrox and other Ascended being able to beat Aspects isn't really an exception to the rule because there is no precedense in place. The score is 1-1 and Atreus used the power of believing in yourself (he straight up Naruto'd that fight) so even his win is dubious outside of the plot needing him to win.

If anything I lean towards Ascended being stronger than most Aspects on AVERAGE, but not in all cases.