Why do I get the feeling that Rhaast is the most harmless of all the Darkin?

SaltyToplaneGoat·10/22/2018, 10:05:43 PM·32 votes·16,502 views

Not sure why, you might call it a random intuition or something, but let's take a step back for a minute and compare him with Varus and Aatrox: don't those two appear a lot more dangerous? Yes sure Rhaast is loud, and loves playing the "muahahaha I'm so evil kill them all"-part, but then again the ego of an edgy teenager is enough to keep him in line and his weapon is the most clunky thing you could ever use in close combat. Even when you have the necessary strenght to make it lethal, a farming tool is a farming tool, and not a weapon. Like I could understand if a Darkin was banished into a random object if they were a mage or something, but Rhaast is obviously more on the warrior-side of things.

And we also know that all the Darkin are the surviving ascendants of the ancient shuriman empire, those that were purged by an targonian intervention and sealed. The only ones who survived this were Renekton, who like Xerath was sealed away and probably thought dead by most, and Nasus who at that point had become a hermit driven almost insane by grief. Azir was pretty much stuck in the RAM-Storage of the sun-disk as his ascension had an unscheduled shutdown with a server downtime that spanned several thousand years.

So at some point those Darkin were one big group or rather family. And if you look at it from that perspective, doesn't Rhaast appear a lot more, I don't know, "childish" compred to the others? He tries so desperatly hard to look evil and murderous to the point of even picking a weapon because it looks evil and cool over its actrual fighting capabilities. Meanwhile, the others don't "try" to look like they are about to end the world. It's pretty much their default state.

By my theory human Rhaast was never really a scholar or a warrior, but someone who through countless accidents became a shuriman hero, ascended, and then tried to find his place in a group that he knew he was definetly not qualified for to be a part of - and to compensate for that he tried so, so hard, to the point of it actually backfiring on him.

My guess is, that Rhaast is the "most human" Darkin there is, because he was also one of the "weakest", and most human ascendants - and that opens an interesting plot line for Kayn and Rhaast: when the evil demon weapon now suddenly the one with more humanity than the one wielding it. Because let's be real, Kayn is one giant murderous mess psychologically speaking. Child-soldiers turned assassins are not exactly known for their mental stability OR their exceptional moral compas - and I think we can also blame Zed's possibly nonexistent parenting skills on that one.

The Darkin will "turn good" at some point, or at least they will stop trying to end the world, but one of them has to turn first. The typical (lame) storyline for this would be to have the love of Kal and Valmar convince Varus to let go of his harted, but who wants something as cheesy as that anyways? But if we set the Kayn/Rhaast dynamic at the core of all this, don't things turn a lot more interesting?

Tl,dr: You thought Kayn was the edgy one trying too hard, but it was Rhaast all along!

47 Comments

RiotRiot Scathlocke10/22/2018, 10:45:41 PM53 votes

Rhaast literally JUST woke up, in comparison to Aatrox (who has been active for centuries) and Varus (who has been active for about a decade).

Give him a chance. He's not even dominated his host, yet! :-P

Ice Weasel X10/22/2018, 10:29:45 PM15 votes

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Guy Broman10/23/2018, 12:20:13 AM11 votes

Honestly I feel Rhaast is the "Idiot little brother" of the Darkin family. Aatrox is the oldest and most accomplished who probably takes things too seriously, Varus is the angsty middle child with a lot of potential and Rhaast is the one who calls you at 3AM to pick him up from downtown because he "lost his car".

Well, idiot might be harsh. He's still a transcendental being but I feel he's only interested in killing things. He doesn't really care about his pride or nobility like Aatrox or revenge like Varus. All just a theory of course.

Khâmul10/22/2018, 10:30:31 PM8 votes

most harmless? at best less harmful

Ionian Vulpix10/23/2018, 6:00:09 PM6 votes

Aatrox calls him out on it. He's planning on slaughtering fields of wheat.

NotaRobot100610/23/2018, 2:46:42 AM6 votes

I love this so much. Between the middle finger to Targon, the middle finger to destiny/fate, and the power of friendship, you've just gone and made my favorite thread.

Zeppelins circus10/23/2018, 5:06:17 AM4 votes

Rhaast. The most dangerous comedian ever to grace runeterra.

Red Meeseeks10/23/2018, 4:16:16 PM4 votes

It's not that he is weak or harmless. He has more control. They base it off the weapons and the fighting styles. I'm a weapons freak and I collect a couple and I do in fact own a battle Sythe. The Sythe is a difficult weapon because it requires total and fluid balance to wield. You could easily stab yourself while using it. Attrox is a great sword. Those things are made for total and complete carnage and destruction, like Aatrox. Varus is a splitting difference....no pun intended. Bow's are versatile but can be crooked. Rahst is just in control of himself and is having fun while doing it. He's not seeking total bloodshed, but just a good fight which is why he is so patient with Kayn because Kayn is actually using him to do what he was gonna go do in the first place.

JoeAnarchy10/23/2018, 11:28:11 AM3 votes

well the Scythe was The Blade of Millennium even before Rhaast was locked in it.. so i'm assuming it had some kind of magical power which is why Rhaast used it after he ascended. being the one who could wield it might have even been what made him qualified to become ascended to begin with.

DeracadaVenom10/24/2018, 5:13:59 PM2 votes

This is now canon in my mind because i like it so much

RyzeTheSmurfMage10/23/2018, 5:50:01 AM2 votes

He reminds me of Venom from the recent movie

Aeike10/23/2018, 7:07:44 PM2 votes

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Not sure why, you might call it a random intuition or something, but let's take a step back for a minute and compare him with Varus and Aatrox: don't those two appear a lot more dangerous? Yes sure Rhaast is loud, and loves playing the "muahahaha I'm so evil kill them all"-part, but then again the ego of an edgy teenager is enough to keep him in line and his weapon is the most clunky thing you could ever use in close combat. Even when you have the necessary strenght to make it lethal, a farming tool is a farming tool, and not a weapon. Like I could understand if a Darkin was banished into a random object if they were a mage or something, but Rhaast is obviously more on the warrior-side of things.

And we also know that all the Darkin are the surviving ascendants of the ancient shuriman empire, those that were purged by an targonian intervention and sealed. The only ones who survived this were Renekton, who like Xerath was sealed away and probably thought dead by most, and Nasus who at that point had become a hermit driven almost insane by grief. Azir was pretty much stuck in the RAM-Storage of the sun-disk as his ascension had an unscheduled shutdown with a server downtime that spanned several thousand years.

So at some point those Darkin were one big group or rather family. And if you look at it from that perspective, doesn't Rhaast appear a lot more, I don't know, "childish" compred to the others? He tries so desperatly hard to look evil and murderous to the point of even picking a weapon because it looks evil and cool over its actrual fighting capabilities. Meanwhile, the others don't "try" to look like they are about to end the world. It's pretty much their default state.

By my theory human Rhaast was never really a scholar or a warrior, but someone who through countless accidents became a shuriman hero, ascended, and then tried to find his place in a group that he knew he was definetly not qualified for to be a part of - and to compensate for that he tried so, so hard, to the point of it actually backfiring on him.

My guess is, that Rhaast is the "most human" Darkin there is, because he was also one of the "weakest", and most human ascendants - and that opens an interesting plot line for Kayn and Rhaast: when the evil demon weapon now suddenly the one with more humanity than the one wielding it. Because let's be real, Kayn is one giant murderous mess psychologically speaking. Child-soldiers turned assassins are not exactly known for their mental stability OR their exceptional moral compas - and I think we can also blame Zed's possibly nonexistent parenting skills on that one.

The Darkin will "turn good" at some point, or at least they will stop trying to end the world, but one of them has to turn first. The typical (lame) storyline for this would be to have the love of Kal and Valmar convince Varus to let go of his harted, but who wants something as cheesy as that anyways? But if we set the Kayn/Rhaast dynamic at the core of all this, don't things turn a lot more interesting?

Tl,dr: You thought Kayn was the edgy one trying too hard, but it was Rhaast all along!

cool

Warlord Dienekes10/23/2018, 1:32:05 AM1 votes

Honestly, if we’re talking about clunky weapons to use is combat. I think Aatrox’s is actually worse.

Now don’t get me wrong, bidenhanders are awesome. But Aatrox’s specifically is really poorly designed.

Or we can comment on how Varus’s bow would also be bad in close combat for very obvious reasons.

mrmeddyman10/23/2018, 12:54:24 AM1 votes

The real answer is that because Kayne and Rhaast are a duo champion they can both contribute very one dimensional personalites and the interactions between them is what makes the character interesting. It's actually better that way as if you try to do much one character crowds the other out (like Xayah vs Rakan, Xayah has all the motivation and Rakan is just her +1) .

Zeppelins circus10/24/2018, 3:14:52 PM1 votes

The sad part is that there is only one Darkin left around that is confirmed. The worst part is that it is a really large hurdle to be less intimidating than Rhaast.

Fasmodey10/23/2018, 6:20:46 AM1 votes

Is redemption even possible for darkins? Them turning to good side?

They were crazy even before their imprisonment. Now imagine them imprisoned in oblivion for 2500+ with nothing. No vision, no hearing, no physical feel. For 2500+ years...

They are even crazier than before and seeking for revenge against the humanity and aspects.

Rhaast would kill pregnant women for fun.