People Do Realize GP Isn't Confirmed Dead Lorewise Right?...

TheGrandAlliance·7/31/2015, 1:03:02 AM·5 votes·3,456 views

...the community is rushing to speculation without actual proof. The lore page for Act 3 describes a scene that TF reflects upon himself while being pulled down; eventually underwater by weight of a cannon, engaging in brief combat with GP, nonetheless it doesn't actually prove nor demonstrate "Gangplank is Dead". People think he is dead... but he indeed may not be. Although there are many possible outcomes of saviours; from his own crew to Nami, or even Riot's Newest Champion Tahm Kench doing something for instance, all of this "celebration of his death" is premature.

No body found? No proof of death.

Edit: I do accept all of your appoglizes therefore:

The orchestrated spectacle of the Dead Pool’s destruction led many to believe that the dread reaver Gangplank perished in the flames. But what is dread may never die, and Gangplank returns to reclaim what he believes to be rightfully his.

We only know he was injured by a brief reference in Part 3:

The pressure builds, and then I shift.

In an instant, I’m right behind Gangplank, ready to make my move.

One of his crew spots me – he looks baffled, like he’s trying to figure out how I got there. While he thinks about it, I punch him square in the face. He collapses into a crowd of bewildered deckhands. They all turn on me with cutlasses drawn. Gangplank leads the attack, slashing straight at my throat.

But I’m faster. In one deft move, I slide underneath the arcing steel and lift Gangplank’s prized silver dagger from his belt. Behind me, I hear cursing that could split the mast in two.

I leap to the deck, stowing the dagger in my britches as the end of the chain tears toward the edge of the ship. I stretch and grab the last steel link just before it disappears overboard.

The snap of the chain hauls me over the side, and now I realize what I’ve done.

As you can see in this scene isn't confirmed dead... in fact the only reference that GP was injured was a brief paragraph saying how TF got GP's dagger and used it. After that no further information is provided on GP's condition.

I will preface my next statement with one of complementary nature: Act 4 of this Event is indeed well written by RIOT. That being said... on a Final and most Key Point: If you need proof of RIOT deleting "the League of Legends" from a game called "League of Legends" (and why this is bad)... please explain how MF/TF gets away by "killing" a League champion and doesn't get "punished" by the Institute of War therefore alas...

Lore Reposted Below:

Act Three – Part Three

The card Malcolm puts in my hand could easily get me to the wharf. I’m so close to shore, and from there, the huge crowd’s just perfect for me to vanish into. I could be off this rat’s ass of an island inside an hour. This time, no one would ever find me.

Then all I can see in my mind is his pissed-off face disappearing into the depths.

Son of a bitch.

I can’t leave him. Not after last time. There’s no running away from this. I know where to go.

The pressure builds, and then I shift.

In an instant, I’m right behind Gangplank, ready to make my move.

One of his crew spots me – he looks baffled, like he’s trying to figure out how I got there. While he thinks about it, I punch him square in the face. He collapses into a crowd of bewildered deckhands. They all turn on me with cutlasses drawn. Gangplank leads the attack, slashing straight at my throat.

But I’m faster. In one deft move, I slide underneath the arcing steel and lift Gangplank’s prized silver dagger from his belt. Behind me, I hear cursing that could split the mast in two.

I leap to the deck, stowing the dagger in my britches as the end of the chain tears toward the edge of the ship. I stretch and grab the last steel link just before it disappears overboard.

The snap of the chain hauls me over the side, and now I realize what I’ve done.

The water is coming at me fast. In that frozen moment, every single part of me wants to let go of the chain. Being a river man who can’t swim has plagued me my whole life. Now it’ll be the death of me.

I take one final gulp of air. Then a musket shot rips into my shoulder. I yell out in pain, and lose my last breath just before I’m dragged under.

Frigid water punches me in the face as I sink into the suffocating blue.

This is my nightmare.

Panic wells inside. I try to quell it. It’s almost too much. More shots pierce the water above me. I’m still sinking.

Sharks and devilfish circle. They taste the blood. They follow me deeper into the abyss.

Everything is terror. No pain now. Heart pounds in my ears. Chest burning. Gotta keep the water out. Darkness coils around me. Too far down. No way back. I know that now.

But maybe I can save Malcolm.

Below me, there’s a thud, and the chain goes slack. The cannon’s hit the seabed.

I pull myself down the chain into the shadows. There’s a shape below. I think it’s Graves. Frantic, I drag myself toward him.

Then he’s right in front of me, though I can barely see the outline of his face. I think he’s shaking his head at me, angry that I came back.

I’m growing faint. My arm is numb and my skull is being crushed.

Letting go of the chain, I pull the dagger from my waist. My hand trembles.

I fumble in the darkness. By some miracle, I find the lock on Graves’s cuffs. I work the blade to coax it open, like I have a thousand locks before. But my hands won’t stop shaking.

Even Graves must be terrified. His lungs have to be giving out by now. The lock isn’t budging.

What would Malcolm do?

I twist the dagger. No finesse - nothing but force.

Something gives. I think I cut my hand. The dagger is falling. Into the abyss. There it goes... Is it glowing?

Above me, bright red. Red and orange... Everywhere. It’s beautiful... So this is what it’s like to die.

I laugh.

Water rushes in.

It’s peaceful.

Indeed once agian as you can see in this scene GP isn't confirmed dead... in fact the only reference that GP was injured was a brief paragraph saying how TF got GP's dagger and used it. After that no further information is provided on GP's condition.

Act Three – Part Three

Fire and Ruin, A Conclusion, Turn for the Worse

Miss Fortune stared across the harbor from the deck of her ship, the Syren. Flames reflected in her eyes as she absorbed the full level of destruction she had wrought.

All that remained of Gangplank’s ship was burning wreckage. The crew had been killed in the detonation, drowned in the chaos, or claimed by the swarming razorfish.

It had been glorious. An immense ball of rolling fire had lit up the night like a new sun.

Half the city had witnessed it; Gangplank himself had seen to that, as she knew he would. He had to parade Twisted Fate and Graves in front of Bilgewater. He had to remind everyone why no one should cross him. To Gangplank, people were just tools used to maintain control - so she’d used that to kill him.

Shouts and tolling bells echoed across the port city. Word would be spreading like wildfire.

Gangplank is dead.

The corners of her lips curled into a smile.

Tonight was merely the endgame: Hiring T.F., tipping off Graves – all just to distract Gangplank. It had taken years to exact her revenge.

Miss Fortune’s smile faded.

From the moment he had stormed into her family’s workshop, his face hidden behind a red bandana, she had been preparing herself for this moment.

Sarah lost both her parents that day. She was just a child, but he shot her down as she stood watching her parents bleed out on the floor.

Gangplank taught her a harsh lesson: that no matter how safe you feel, your world – everything you’ve built, everything you care for - can be taken away in an instant.

Gangplank’s one mistake was not making sure she was dead. Her anger and her hate had sustained her through that first cold, painful night, and every night since.

For fifteen years, she had scraped together everything she needed; waiting until she wasn’t even a memory to him, for him to drop his guard and get comfortable in the life he’d built. Only then would he truly be able to lose everything. Only then would he know what it felt like to lose his home, to lose his world.

She should have been feeling exultant, but she just felt empty.

Joining her at the gunwale, Rafen jolted Sarah from her reverie.

“He’s gone,” he said. “It’s over.”

“No,” replied Miss Fortune. “Not yet.”

She turned from the harbor, casting her gaze across Bilgewater. Sarah had hoped that killing him would kill her hate. But all she had done was unleash it. For the first time since that day, she felt truly powerful.

“This is just the beginning,” she said. “I want everyone loyal to him to be brought to answer. I want the heads of his lieutenants mounted on my wall. Burn every bawdy house, tavern, and warehouse that bears his mark. And I want his corpse.”

Rafen was shaken. He’d heard words like that before, but never from her.

Again in this section people are celebrating his perceived death but no proof is provided. Gangplank's ship is "blown up" but what happens to people on board is speculated... the fate of GP is unknown.

Act Three – Part Four

Red Sky, Chumming the Waters, Reconciliation

I’ve thought a lot about the ways I’d wanna go out. Chained up like a dog at the bottom of the ocean? That one never crossed my mind. Lucky for me, T.F. manages to pop the lock on my shackles just before he drops the dagger.

I scramble out of the chains, thirsty for breath. I turn toward T.F. Poor bastard’s not moving. I twist my hand around his collar and start kickin’ toward the surface.

As we go up, suddenly everything lights up bright red.

A shockwave knocks me ass over ears. Chunks of iron sink past us. A cannon plunges by. Then a charred hunk of rudder. Bodies, too. A face covered in tattoos stares in shock at me. The severed head then slowly disappears into the darkness beneath us.

I swim faster, my lungs set to bust.

An age later, I’m at the surface, coughing up salt water and gasping for air. But it’s damn near unbreathable. Smoke chokes me and claws at my eyes. I’ve seen things burn in my time, but never like this. Looks like someone set the whole world on fire.

“Damn me...” I hear myself mutter.

Gangplank’s ship is gone. Bits of smoking debris are scattered all across the bay. Fiery islands of wood collapse all around, hissin’ as they go under. A flaming sail falls right in front of us, nearly dragging T.F. and me back down for good. Burning men desperately jump from smoldering pieces of wreckage into the water, quietin’ their own screams. It smells like the end of everything – sulfur and ash and death; cooked hair and melting skin.

I check on T.F. I’m strugglin’ to keep him above water. Son of a bitch is a lot heavier than he looks, and it ain’t helping that half my ribs are broke. I find a piece of scorched hull floating nearby. It looks solid enough. I pull us both on top. It ain’t exactly seaworthy, but it’ll do.

For the first time, I get a good look at T.F. He ain’t breathin’. I wail on his chest with my fists. Just when I’m worried I’m going to cave his ribs in, he coughs out a lungful of seawater. I slump and shake my head again as he slowly comes to his senses.

“You stupid son of a bitch! What did you come back for?”

It takes him a minute to answer.

“Thought I’d try it your way,” he mutters, slurring his words. “See what being a stubborn ass felt like.” He hacks up more water. “Feels awful.”

Razorfish and even meaner sea critters are startin’ to gather around us. I ain’t about to be anything’s chow. I pull my feet away from the edge.

A mangled crewman bobs to the surface, grabbin’ for our raft. I plant my boot in his face and shove him off. A fat tentacle wraps around his neck and drags him back under. Now the fish have something else to keep ’em busy.

Before they run out of fresh meat, I break off a plank from our raft and use it to paddle us away from the feedin’ frenzy.

I pull at the water for what seems like hours. My arms are heavy and hurtin’, but I know better than to stop. Once I’ve put some distance between us and the massacre, I collapse onto my back.

I’m spent like an empty shotgun shell as I look out over the bay. It’s stained red with the blood of Gangplank and his crew. Not a survivor in sight.

How am I still breathing? Maybe I’m the luckiest man on Runeterra. Or maybe T.F.’s carrying enough good fortune for the both of us.

I see a body floating by, holding something familiar lookin’. It’s Gangplank’s little inbred bastard, still clutching T.F.’s hat. I take it off him and toss it to T.F. He ain’t even a little surprised, like he always knew he’d get it back.

“Now we just need to find your gun,” he says.

“What, you itchin’ to go back down there?” I say, pointing to the deep.

T.F. turns a funny shade of green.

“We ain’t got the time. Whoever did this, they left Bilgewater without a boss,” I tell him. “It’s gonna get ugly here, fast.”

“You’re telling me you can live without your gun?” he asks.

“Maybe not,” I say. “But I know a really good gunsmith in Piltover.”

“Piltover...” he says, lost in thought.

“Lot of money flowing through there right now,” I say.

T.F. figures hard for a moment.

“Hmm. Not sure about having you as a partner again – you’re even dumber than you used to be,” he finally answers.

“That’s alright. I’m not sure about havin’ a partner called Twisted Fate. Who the hell came up with that?”

“Well, it’s a damn sight better than my real name,” T.F. laughs.

“Fair enough,” I admit.

I grin. It feels just like the old days. Then I go stone faced and look him dead in the eye.

“Just one thing: You ever have mind to leave me holding the bag again, I’ll blow your goddamn head off. No questions.”

Fate’s laugh dies down, and for a moment, he glares back at me. Then, after a while, he just smiles.

“You got a deal.”

In this final section Graves/TF surface but yet they find no corpse of GP. They find someone maybe related to GP floating but not GP.

As you can see... lorewise GP is not observed dead... yet at least.

Indeed it is so...

42 Comments

NemeBro7/31/2015, 1:47:00 AM4 votes

{quoted}

The lore page for Act 3 describes GP being pulled down underwater by weight of a cannon and GP's last thoughts to himself but it doesn't actually prove nor demonstrate "he is dead".

The one pulled down by a cannon is Twisted Fate, not Gangplank, lol.

Dreamspitter7/31/2015, 7:38:11 AM3 votes

#I'll just leave this here.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NeverFoundTheBody http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OutOfTheInferno http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NoOneCouldSurviveThat

That's all. Oh and this.

{quoted}

Bomb, actually. But pretty close.

Sorry - I've been resisting purposely misunderstanding 'canon' comments all day, but that typo is too good to pass up!

Serious answer - everything in the story updates for the Burning Tides event is official canon. Everything implied is implied, everything said by a character is stated as from the perspectives of those characters. I.e. some people lie, some are unreliable narrators, some know the truth, and some are misinformed.

(Or Miss Fortuned. Har har. Sorry. I can't help it.)

#And if all that fails...

Next Harrowing, Spooky Plank takes revenge.

OperationDEEZ17/31/2015, 1:10:21 AM2 votes

The Institute of War isn't a thing anymore. Aren't Retconns great?

1011001110007/31/2015, 2:33:43 AM1 votes

Gangplank is on his ship, in plain view of everyone.

Miss Fortune blew up his ship.

Then Riot posts this

But no, Gangplank isn't dead. /sarcasm

Earl Eulrich7/31/2015, 2:43:53 AM1 votes

as if they´d actually kill a Champion (and disable him forever or what?)...

NA Darklarik7/31/2015, 7:37:29 AM1 votes
  1. Institute of war and League of Legends isnt cannon anymore.

  2. Did you read the description of the blast? It was huge, Graves said their wasent a single survivor. His whole ship blew up, and everyone on it was described as having either died instantly, or been set on fire/mutilated and died shortly after.

If he survived it would be kind off corny, like, hes the only survivor? Badass as he is, he is still human, possessing no magical powers. There is no logical explanation as to how he could survive something like that.

The Red Warden7/31/2015, 7:25:15 PM1 votes

He probably made a deal with the bearded serpent to live past this. Calling it now.

TheGrandAlliance8/4/2015, 11:45:15 AM1 votes

LoL Indeed... I do accept all of your appoglizes therefore. INdeed GP is not dead... as stated. Nor was he even killed. Just "injured". Perhaps he was already dead before.

Indeed it is so...

Ironclad Dragon7/31/2015, 1:48:51 AM1 votes

As you can see in this scene isn't confirmed dead... he simply loses conscious... because of drowning and possibly blood loss. It does not "prove" he is dead... simply unconscious.

Who are you referring to here, Gangplank or Graves or Fate? The way I read it, the last time Gangplank is seen is on-deck.

vivjan307/31/2015, 1:56:39 AM1 votes

Even if GP is dead, they could bring him back as Spooky GP and make it his base skin. And change his subtitle to the 'pirate of the depths' or something like that. Fixed.