Sexualization: What's okay and what's not

KestrelGirl·Apr 7, 2018·61 votes·11,200 views

Expanding on a Reddit comment I made two weeks ago and a boards comment piggybacking off it.

I've seen a lot of people complaining about "x champ is too sexualized!" especially with Riot's admission about Kai'Sa's neckline. So I'd like to shed a little bit of light on the issue.

As a preface, I'd like to praise Riot for making some amazingly diverse and realistically dressed female characters over the years: Diana, Quinn, Kalista, Rek'Sai (hehe), Illaoi, Taliyah, Camille, Xayah (who's SUPPOSED to look like she just came out of Hot Topic), Zoe (yes even her), and most recently Irelia. (I'm probably missing a few still.)

Here I list a few categories of sexualization (and bad wardrobe choices), and copious examples of each. I hope this analysis clarifies things a bit. And no, I did not forget the guys! They are actually a lot more diverse by default since we have a lot of dude monsters and not a lot of lady monsters, but the body types of just the human men are pretty diverse compared to the women (who have a lot of big boobs and wasp waists and a handful of exceptions of different types). And their outfits/armor are a little more suited to the task. But I'll save my boob plate whining for another post.

Makes Sense

Evelynn: She is literally a succubus who exists to torture and hypothetically have sex with unfortunate victims. No problems with her being nearly nude.

Elise: Literally makes blood sacrifices to preserve her youth. Of course she wants to show it off. No problem.

Ahri: Added by popular demand. I wasn't originally going to add her because in the grand scheme of things her outfit is not even that bad. She is still a seductress, though. Ample cleavage is warranted.

Miss Fortune: This is where it gets a little hairy. Her VO and base skin take her sex appeal over the top, and these both need changes - but it's still canon, and still warranted! Hear me out. We know thanks to all this juicy Bilgewater lore that Miss Fortune is a fucking badass - survived getting shot in the head by Gangplank as a kid, eventually took Gangplank's spot as ruler of Bilgewater by blowing up his ship, capable of blasting shitty people to bits, etc. We also know, thanks to the comic "Fortune Smiles," that she's willing to use her looks to her advantage, by pretending to be a demure lady to trick her rivals into thinking she's weak, before striking back and shooting them down. So yeah - it's completely fine that she's sexy, but I'd really just like to see her get a new voiceover (this has been in the works from what I've heard), and also get the GP treatment: swap base and Captain, new title (the Pirate Queen? Bilgewater's Queen? the Bullet of Bilgewater?), call her old base Bounty Hunter MF, problem solved.

Sona: Some girls are just naturally busty, and it's her choice whether she gets to show it off. Like, I'd PREFER if she didn't look like her dress was about to fall off, but she's fine as is. EDIT: There's a difference between a musician in a long, flowing dress who doesn't actually canonically fight, and an assassin, frontline fighter, or backline marksman who all need some utility in battle.

Taric, Kayn, and Rakan: If they want to show off their abs, then so be it. EDIT: Rakan and Taric are both capable of shielding themselves with magic, making their clothes basically irrelevant. Kayn's in a grey area. Technically he might not have to wear armor, as he's presumably able to evade most attacks with shadow magic.

Doesn't Make Sense (aka Rito Pls Fix Someday)

Kai'Sa: I can understand the clarity stuff, but can that V-neck not go below her boobs? Well, I guess it's too late for that, but you get the point. A Void suit has no reason to avoid her cleavage.

Katarina: Why is an assassin wearing a glorified battle bra? She'd die instantly in the fray! EDIT: To clarify to those dense enough to think this is protective at all, her heart, liver, lungs, guts, etc. etc. etc. are ALL at risk.

Ashe: Why is she wearing thigh highs and a minidress in the freakin' FRELJORD? EDIT: While she may be cold resistant thanks to ice magic, I still imagine her wearing something like this instead https://greyhues.deviantart.com/art/Ranger-455050405

Caitlyn: There's room for fashion, but not really for frilly skirts on a cop. Especially when you're tackling people to the ground. Cait's visuals and VO are horrendously outdated in general so if there's anyone on this little list I want to see updated ASAP, it's her. EDIT: No, she is NOT just a sniper! See: "Progress Day"

Syndra: Just isn't wearing enough. And isn't cohesive with the rest of Ionia. We'll see if whatever lore update she gets justifies her outfit.

Sivir: Also isn't wearing enough, but at least she's not as incredibly sexualized as some of the others on this list. Also she lives in the desert which is technically an excuse. EDIT: Yeah, Egyptians weren't wearing much at all but they were probably wearing a bit more when actually in battle. Sivir technically strikes from the back line, or from far away, but there's still the possibility of getting hit by a bounty target.

Shyvana: Ugh, battle bra. EDIT: What I mean to say is, why is she wearing metal armor at all? You could literally just give her thick scales on her body and it would have the same effect.

Sejuani: Editing Sej in because her armor's certainly better than it used to be, but still not enough. Here's why it sucks. A blade that goes in that boob window is gonna just kill her. A blade that hits the boob plate is going to deflect off and end up right in between the cups, and whatever bit of metal is over her sternum will cave in and stab her in the heart. Kayle has this problem but she's getting VGUd so I won't complain unless she has it afterward.

Leona: Also editing Leona in. She has the same issues as Sejuani but without the skin window. To be fair, though, she has a giant shield to do most of the work.

Grey Area/Whatever

Soraka: EDIT: Soraka is probably fine in the grand scheme of things.

Zyra: She's a plant. She just modeled herself after a woman.

Nami: The "clothes" are a part of her body. The V neck is a questionable design choice, as is the fact that she has boobs to show off at all (it's unlikely that the Marai are actually mammals), but her mostly fishy nature sets her apart from other mermaid concepts which is at least nice.

LeBlanc: We don't know if that getup is all an illusion. We also only suspect that it's her in the cloak as the Faceless, but if that is her, she's due for a very Noxian wardrobe change. (Maybe not a cloak buuuuut...)

Janna: Her outfit was certainly inexcusable when she was a human air mage. She's a spirit now, though. She could use more creativity in her outfit instead. (Also now that she's a spirit she should really drop the prostitute joke. It's a classic for sure, but really?)

Nidalee: Feral woman. Realistically would not be wearing much anyway.

Varus, Aatrox, and Rhaast: They're not even human. They don't give a fuck. EDIT: Remember that their armor is part of their bodies, except for Rhaast wearing Kayn's pants.

Akali, Morgana, and Kayle: Getting VGUd. Will likely be far less sexualized (Akali/Morgana) or wearing armor that isn't going to kill them (Kayle) once complete.

Cassiopeia: Editing Cass in. FURTHER EDIT: Yeah, I get it, she used her looks as a weapon BEFORE she became a frickin' snake monster. I'm not so sure about that now. So... is she still... making use of that battle bra?

Braum: Editing in. IF Braum is human, then yes, the fact that he's shirtless is Not Okay. However, there have been arguments that he's a demigod of some sort (hence cold resistance), or that he isn't even real in the League universe. Status questionable.

245 Comments

TwinkieProApr 7, 201836 votes

I'd like to point out that assassins are supposed to be quick. Heavier armor would slow them down and make their jobs harder, so it makes sense to have only so much on.

KestrelGirlApr 7, 201813 votes

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I'd like to point out that assassins are supposed to be quick. Heavier armor would slow them down and make their jobs harder, so it makes sense to have only so much on.

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To be fair, i highly doubt assassins wear any sort of heavy armour. Hell even with light armour she is vulnerable to having her vital organs impaled.

Leather armor is absolutely a thing. Even normal-ish clothes with some leather padding over the important stuff would be fine in this case.

Malicious MetalApr 7, 201816 votes

People vastly underestimate the resilience of simple cloth too. Anything that covers your skin is already better than nothing.

MarshbouyApr 7, 20183 votes

Not to mention that a completely realistic assassin isn't going to be dressed differently than anyone else in the crowd either. In fact, they're probably going to try their very hardest to look completely indistinguishable from other people because they do not want to stand out to security.

So if katarina is going to assassinate someone at a strip club...she's well dressed for the job.

ArakadiaApr 7, 20188 votes

This is a good point, but Katarina isn't assassinating someone at a strip club. In fact she is probably often exposed to the elements in whatever she is wearing.

Ebonmaw DragonApr 7, 201832 votes

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Ashe: Why is she wearing thigh highs and a minidress in the freakin' FRELJORD?

Well... we could say the same for Braum and Tryndamere.

ZaneShadowApr 7, 201812 votes

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Well... we could say the same for Braum and Tryndamere.

I’d say that about Braum, but tryndamere has the whole “my rage sustains and warms me” thing. He has a cinematic where he gets stabbed through and an Ult that says “lol, can’t die for a while now punk”

I doubt the snows going to do more than 3+ feet of cold steel will do. I find him being shirtless in the freliord very fitting actually as a result.

But ya Braum I got nothing, unless the poros keep him warm, he dead.

KestrelGirlApr 7, 201826 votes

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I literally have more hours invested in kat than you have in this game. To say she is over-sexualized is so fucking melo dramatic. She is the daughter of the general for the noxus army. She is rich, an assassin, and edgy. What are you proposing, kat runs around in a crop top, they give her a cute v-neck (but make sure it doesn't go too deep). And are you actually insinuating that she doesn't use her looks for kills. She is an assassin. "A glorified battle bra" really? she has spikes on her arms and legs so that she can impale you while she fights you, her body is covered in small daggers, she has metal plating on her shoulders, AND she is wearing high waisted pants. The absolute MOST you can complain about is excess cleavage. God forbid you walk out side and see a teenager. holy fuck, get off the boards.

As a teenage girl I find this fucking hilarious.

I guess what I mean to say is, Katarina is extremely vulnerable to having... any of her vital organs impaled in that outfit.

NyarlathοtepApr 7, 201822 votes

To be fair, i highly doubt assassins wear any sort of heavy armour. Hell even with light armour she is vulnerable to having her vital organs impaled.

Smitty ManjensenApr 7, 201825 votes

I like how almost any male that was brought up the teenage girl has an shitty excuse why he doesn't wear a shirt, lul. Pretty much double standards. It's ok for me to look at half naked men but bam, not okay for women to dress similarly. If you're gonna address one don't try to make up bullshit excuses for the other. Best example Ashe is not okay but Tryndamere for some reason is, rage or whatever the bullshit excuse.

I QApr 7, 20188 votes

It's also funny how she gets on Caitlyn for wearing a skirt because she will be "tackling people like a cop."

~~Totally Not A Sniper~~

MrHaZeYoApr 7, 201818 votes

How do you feel about Ahri?

I'd also like to weigh in on Cait and Ashe, their Marksmen, they need to be quick and nimble. I'm sure they could be wearing more but at the same time, less makes them quicker and more nimble.

I live in South Dakota, it gets cold AF here in the winter, and yet as a bartender I often see college girls out in skimpy outfits with no jackets or sweatshirts. One could make the argument they're trying to show off their looks/bodys for whatever reason but at the same time we're also a lot more adept to the cold, I often go out in negative whether in a hoodie and shorts and not as bothered by the cold because I've grown up here and am used to it.

Couldn't Ashe be the same way?

As far as the likes of LB and Kat, they're assassins and like MF they use their looks to their advantages (as I imagine Ahri does as well).

Jinx is basically naked, but she doesn't have huge breasts, so she's not on your list? Or is it cause she's cray cray?

I don't get the recent outcry for oversexualized women in League. Girls literally all the time where less and less out in public, and most people could care less, yet when a animated character is dressed to a similar degree as a real lady, Riot gets dumped on. It's funny because I didn't even think of Kai in a sexual way until it was brought up and even then she looks no different then 90% of 20 year old chicks in the fall. Girls show off their breasts all the time, she's really not even showing much.

KestrelGirlApr 7, 20183 votes

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How do you feel about Ahri?

I'd also like to weigh in on Cait and Ashe, their Marksmen, they need to be quick and nimble. I'm sure they could be wearing more but at the same time, less makes them quicker and more nimble.

I live in South Dakota, it gets cold AF here in the winter, and yet as a bartender I often see college girls out in skimpy outfits with no jackets or sweatshirts. One could make the argument they're trying to show off their looks/bodys for whatever reason but at the same time we're also a lot more adept to the cold, I often go out in negative whether in a hoodie and shorts and not as bothered by the cold because I've grown up here and am used to it.

Couldn't Ashe be the same way?

As far as the likes of LB and Kat, they're assassins and like MF they use their looks to their advantages (as I imagine Ahri does as well).

Jinx is basically naked, but she doesn't have huge breasts, so she's not on your list? Or is it cause she's cray cray?

I don't get the recent outcry for oversexualized women in League. Girls literally all the time where less and less out in public, and most people could care less, yet when a animated character is dressed to a similar degree as a real lady, Riot gets dumped on. It's funny because I didn't even think of Kai in a sexual way until it was brought up and even then she looks no different then 90% of 20 year old chicks in the fall. Girls show off their breasts all the time, she's really not even showing much.

Ahri is not incredibly scantily clad, she's more along the lines of Sona, but in her case it's like Evelynn and Elise - entirely justified. Like Evelynn, she has a gimmick about falling in love with people. It hasn't been clarified whether LeBlanc and Kat actually do use their looks, but with Kat's new bio I'm gonna give her a preemptive "very likely not."

I considered whether Ashe might be used to the cold, but even if she is, that outfit is nowhere near combat-appropriate even for an archer, so I still gripe about it!

Jinx, as far as I can tell, is partially choice but mainly practicality reasons. I mean, if you're wearing a lot of clothes it's gonna be hard to be all agile and ride and hop off a bomb, right?

TerozuApr 7, 20185 votes

Her outfit is entirely appropiate of a ranger especially in fantasy.

And her blood btw, is literally ice.

ArakadiaApr 7, 20183 votes

Her blood or her bow? Did auto correct strike again or is her blood actually ice? I've never heard about that.

Anyways, her outfit would be pretty fine but she is literally in the brutal cold barbaric place. Way to play that down by giving her that outfit. The Freljord is supposed to be rigorous, rough, and merciless, in Ashe's clothing she should be dead.

As for her bow, I suggest gloves.

MarothennanApr 7, 201816 votes

Funny how boys barely notice these things and girls flip their shit over it lol

ArakadiaApr 7, 20183 votes

I notice it.

Most males notice it. However a statistically significant portion of them like prostitute Janna.

P4ppinoApr 7, 201814 votes

This thread looks like a huge waste of time to me, but then again, playing lol is just the same so I can't blame you.

Sir PoodleApr 7, 201812 votes

Honestly, I'm not hugely concerned about the V-neck thing; it does appear to have been done mostly to read as human. (To be clear, it's still annoying and irritating and out of place, and there have to have been better ways to make her read as human, but I've mostly accepted it)

What really bugs me for Kai'sa is that her body shape, as far as I can tell (using splash art, haven't checked in-game model) is literally impossible. I kept on looking at reference photos of all kinds of female body types, and frankly, it just doesn't seem that it's literally possible. I might be misjudging it because of the angle of the splash art, but I'm pretty sure I'm not. And I'm kind of sick of it that if they wanted to make a sexy woman (not that Kai'sa was necessarily the right place for it- skintight suit on one hand, shellshocked survivor viewed as a monster on the other) that they couldn't at least limit themselves to something vaguely realistic.

I even went into an image editor and measured the waist-to-hip ratio; apparently, Kai'sa (in the splash art) has more of an hourglass figure than Marilyn Monroe did, even if just a little.

Johnny El RojoApr 7, 20183 votes

Her in game model seems more or less normal in proportions. http://www.lolking.net/models?champion=145&skin=0

Sorin AlucardApr 7, 201812 votes

Honestly, why is this a discussion?

Why is it a big deal that the characters are who they are? Bear with me. If Sex, Gender, Race, and Looks didnt matter then you wouldn't be questioning the characters in the first place you'd be accepting them as they are

If a group happens to be all guys, cool. If they happen to be all women, cool. If they happen to be mixed colors, genitals, tentacles, then cool.

As for the outfits, its fantasy. For all I know Kat's bra is there cuz she doesn't mind scars anywhere but her boobies lol But if things like these are trivial, individual expressions of a particular fantasy then the details of that expression shouldn't warrant more than casual discussion. You shouldn't ask for so much change as if there was something terrible with the original expression.

Now if you personally pref different looks/genders on certain characters, AWESOME. That's the beauty of imagination and loving the fantasies that inspired them. I'm pretty sure that's exactly what skins are anyway; fantasy changing a previous fantasy without losing love for the source. So if you want a Kat or Ashe that makes more sense, who is an independent woman with no concerns for looks, draw one and submit it and I hope it gets created.

PS Equality between all people is not Equal Outcome or Forced Diversity.

hhaavviikkApr 7, 20184 votes

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Honestly, why is this a discussion?

Why is it a big deal that the characters are who they are? Bear with me. If Sex, Gender, Race, and Looks didnt matter then you wouldn't be questioning the characters in the first place you'd be accepting them as they are

If a group happens to be all guys, cool. If they happen to be all women, cool. If they happen to be mixed colors, genitals, tentacles, then cool.

As for the outfits, its fantasty. For all I know Kat's bra is there cuz she doesn't mind scars anywhere but her boobies lol But if things like these are trivial, individual expressions of a particular fantasy then the details of that expression shouldn't warrant more than casual discussion. You shouldn't ask for so much change as if there was something terrible with the original expression.

Now if you personally pref different looks/genders on certain characters, AWESOME. That's the beauty of imagination and loving the fantasies that inspired them. I'm pretty sure that's exactly what skins are anyway; fantasy changing a previous fantasy without losing love for the source. So if you want a Kat or Ashe that makes more sense, who is an independent woman with no concerns for looks, draw one and submit it and I hope it gets created.

PS Equality between all people is not Equal Outcome or Forced Diversity.

it's difficult to like a character if allot of them look the same, riot even admitted they didn't like churning out hourglass female character after hourglass female character because they all looked the same with the only difference being the clothes.

what's more if the game wants to care about the lore then the characters have to make sense, if in the lore the character isn't acting sexual or isn't supposed to be sexy why are they sexually clothed? basically if in the lore they act like Y but visually they don't feel or look like Y and instead feel and look like X it's difficult to like the character for their lore as there is a disconnection, this was the case for me with old sejunai, ''so you're a battle hardened veteran riding into battle in what is basically a bikini and a thong?'' in that instance the character didn't match up to how she represents herself visually and I just couldn't like her because of that.

Sorin AlucardApr 7, 20183 votes

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it's difficult to like a character if allot of them look the same, riot even admitted they didn't like churning out hourglass female character after hourglass female character because they all looked the same with the only difference being the clothes.

what's more if the game wants to care about the lore then the characters have to make sense, if in the lore the character isn't acting sexual or isn't supposed to be sexy why are they sexually clothed? basically if in the lore they act like Y but visually they don't feel or look like Y and instead feel and look like X it's difficult to like the character for their lore as there is a disconnection, this was the case for me with old sejunai, ''so you're a battle hardened veteran riding into battle in what is basically a bikini and a thong?'' in that instance the character didn't match up to how she represents herself visually and I just couldn't like her because of that.

I mean if you're wanting diversity because too many characters are too similar, then by all means lets see if we can switch it up. So far I've loved all the reworks.

Whenever a character is showing a bunch of skin, or wearing something that doesn't make sense, I actually take that as a testament to their strength. IE Wonder Woman. Its not like its impossible to wound them, but they're confident in what they're going with.

Lee is basically wearing sweat pants and cloth shoes, no shirt, NO EYES (XD) and I'd still imagine him beating up armored characters. Realistically I don't see Teemo darts penetrating Dragon scales or heavy armor, but he does lol

I do see your point about some things changing to fit functionality though. I mean change itself isn't bad, but the motivations should be scrutinized too :)

Also "sexualized" clothes often happen to be that way because their comfortable or form fitting, and people will never stop liking to take a gander at forms they like. Shout out to all you Gragas and Illaoi lovers, I know you exist, no shame bb XD

PS I agree, Sej Bikini makes no sense. Pretty sure those Freljord peeps are pretty immune to cold though. I'd hope Ashe was. If she didn't she might be stashing hand warmers at the nexus XD

saltranApr 7, 201811 votes

And you can see by how Pulsefire Caitlyn was made that Rito knows that she was a oversesexualizated champ just fo the sake of being female, I mean, if Cait was released today she would have a more conservative style just like her last skin has or how her Officer skin was showed in the Vi and Zyra comic, and it was actually funny, great read.

https://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/community/community-spotlight/punches-and-plants-piltover-police-story

SexySoapTurtleApr 7, 201811 votes

Im kind of glad riot won't change anything. We live in a society where anything offends anyone, Instead of worrying about what pixels on a screen are wearing, focus your attention on more important things in life, like world hunger or something.

FelazeApr 7, 201820 votes

This is the most fake woke thing I have ever seen in my life. What are you doing to contribute to preventing world hunger while we’re at it? We are on a video game forum, talking about said video game, critiquing the art and narrative of the thing, you know, like the board title says, and here you are spouting off about, “there are more important things...”- like yeah we know, but there is a time and a place, and weirdly enough, this video game forum didn’t seem like the time nor the place to bring up these things... interesting.

TerozuApr 7, 201811 votes

About Ashe, she's actually iceborn. They are extremely resistant to the cold to the point if she was wearing anything else she'd be hot as fuck.

Syndra is all about going against Ionia and their modesty standards.

Shyvanna actually hates clothing, if you look at her armor, it is literally just humanoid versions of her dragon scales which she wears to conform to concepts of human decency while still feeling like a dragon. Her skin is also tougher than her armor.

For Zyra the Vneck is to lure men in shes a succubus like ahri.

Janna, why? What's wrong with a call girl joke? Thats what she is not a prostitute btw.

ArakadiaApr 7, 20184 votes

About Ashe, she's actually iceborn. They are extremely resistant to the cold to the point if she was wearing anything else she'd be hot as fuck.

She is the descendant of an iceborn. There is no confirmation that she is resistant to the cold, but it makes some sense. However her wearing normal clothes would not make her hot. Does it make any sense that the ice born would generate a massive amount of body heat to resist the cold?

Syndra is all about going against Ionia and their modesty standards.

I guess this makes sense, but there are better ways to show her rebellious nature than giving her hooker clothes.

Shyvanna actually hates clothing, if you look at her armor, it is literally just humanoid versions of her dragon scales which she wears to conform to concepts of human decency while still feeling like a dragon. Her skin is also tougher than her armor.

Good point. I think this is fair.

For Zyra the Vneck is to lure men in shes a succubus like ahri.

This isn't true.

Janna, why? What's wrong with a call girl joke? Thats what she is not a prostitute btw.

OP's point was that the joke is not fitting. And it isn't. But its a joke so idrc.

ŻügżwängApr 7, 201810 votes

It's ok to have sexy characters in a fantasy game. It's not ok to tell others what is and isn't ok regarding sexuality

ArakadiaApr 7, 20186 votes

What is more important to me when it comes to this issue is that too often a character gets a boring, copy paste body and face. Too often sexy is applied for no reason other than sex sells and it ends up reducing the character's potential.

Sexy characters like Elise or Evelynn are fine. Sexy characters like Janna... not so much.

LankPantsApr 7, 20189 votes

Syndra: Just isn't wearing enough. AND isn't cohesive with the rest of Ionia. We'll see if whatever lore update she gets justifies her outfit.

Question, why would Syndra be cohesive with the rest of Ionia? That doesn't make sense based off her lore. The actual material looks pretty in line with what other female Ionian's wear. The style is different. That's what I'd actually expect from Syndra.

ZyniXApr 7, 20188 votes

Drawing a line anywhere is silly because everyone has a different opinion about it. They should make champs of all shapes and sizes and stop caring about who they offend. If people like the champ they will play it and if not they won't. It's impossible to please everyone and trying to compromise will just piss someone off no matter what. If everyone was in plate bikinis or trenchcoats I wouldn't care because it's just a video game in the end.

DuRayApr 7, 20187 votes

I literally have more hours invested in kat than you have in this game. To say she is over-sexualized is so fucking melo dramatic. She is the daughter of the general for the noxus army. She is rich, an assassin, and edgy. What are you proposing, kat runs around in a crop top, they give her a cute v-neck (but make sure it doesn't go too deep). And are you actually insinuating that she doesn't use her looks for kills. She is an assassin. "A glorified battle bra" really? she has spikes on her arms and legs so that she can impale you while she fights you, her body is covered in small daggers, she has metal plating on her shoulders, AND she is wearing high waisted pants. The absolute MOST you can complain about is excess cleavage. God forbid you walk out side and see a teenager. holy fuck, get off the boards.

GenoXxApr 7, 20182 votes

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Malicious MetalApr 7, 201812 votes

You keep using that word, I don't think you know what it means.

IceKingChernobogApr 7, 20187 votes

Ashe: Why is she wearing thigh highs and a minidress in the freakin' FRELJORD?

Braum runs around shirtless in the frejlord, so does Tryndamere Trundle

Olaf has a tunic and Gragas wears nothing but a kilt

Sejuani has boob armor with exposed clevage

KestrelGirlApr 7, 201811 votes

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runs around shirtless in the frejlord, so does

has a tunic and wears nothing but a kilt

has boob armor with exposed clevage

Braum and Tryndamere: addressed.

Trundle: is a troll, is not technically sexualized, may have an insanely tough hide, everything is up to speculation, concerns may not apply.

Olaf: Literally cannot die in battle so it doesn't matter what he wears - he's not technically sexualized anyway, just ripped as fuck.

Gragas: Technically shouldn't be fighting. When he does, he probably wears more. Also, consider that it's extremely hard to access an obese person's vital organs.

Sejuani: Should have mentioned her in my post, I'll make an edit.

IceKingChernobogApr 7, 201818 votes

Trundle Not sexualized

i have to disagree with that, have you seen his splash arts? He made people feel things that they shouldn't have.

KestrelGirlApr 7, 20186 votes

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i have to disagree with that, have you seen his splash arts? He made people feel things that they shouldn't have.

...Okay, that's actually kind of funny.

Even if he is, though, he's still a troll and we still have absolutely no clue how trolls work. How big they are, whether they are impervious to most weapons (they probably are honestly), and whether they give a shit about wearing clothes. So if he goes on my list at all he's in the grey area.

hhaavviikkApr 7, 20187 votes

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...Okay, that's actually kind of funny.

Even if he is, though, he's still a troll and we still have absolutely no clue how trolls work. How big they are, whether they are impervious to most weapons (they probably are honestly), and whether they give a shit about wearing clothes. So if he goes on my list at all he's in the grey area.

you know 1 of the things I disliked about the trundle rework is that they made him muscular, before he was some ugly scrawny troll, now he has a 6 pack for...some reason? this seems to me like sexualization.

but I'm with you in that the personality has to match the sexiness of the character, take a look at bayonetta, she has fan service moments, she's sexualized but the character bayonetta herself is a sexy character, she revels in the fact that she's sexy and flaunts herself that's the way she is.

now take a look at quiet from metal gear solid, her sexualization has absolutely NOTHING to do with character, she has been sexualized for the sake of sex because sex sells and that's what I hate it

as someone mentioned old sejunai was the same as well, living in a ice cold country, going into melee, lets wear a bra and a skirt, clearly was also sexualized for the sake of sex because sex sells

edit; also any character wearing HEELS is just ridiculous, you cannot run on heels much less fight, looking at you leona, your shoe choice is stupid

ArakadiaApr 7, 20183 votes

I certainly agree. Unnecessary sexualization is the worst. Fitting sexualization that makes sense or adds to the character is good though.

I QApr 7, 20189 votes

It's a male, so who cares amirite? Its okay if males are sexualized because "They just wanna show abs, let them show abs," but if a female wants to show cleavage, OH NO RIOT WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO OUR CHAMPIONS?

I QApr 7, 20187 votes

When you say Caitlyn shouldn't be wearing a skirt because "When youre tackling down people it'll get in the way," she is a sniper, why would she tackle someone?

ArakadiaApr 7, 20186 votes

She's a sniper but she is still a cop. And cops can't just snipe all day. She's gotta be traveling around the city and disarming people without killing them.

Caitlyn also has to be prepared for when someone gets in close combat with her.

Handin Out NapsApr 7, 20184 votes

So out of curiosity why is it a problem for katarina to wear what she wears because she is an assassin. But Kayn who is also an assassin and is probably exposing more skin is ok because he is "showing of his abs"? What if every girl also just wants to "show off their body"? Also your list that states which champions are oversexualized is really missing a lot of male characters. Really questionable logic going on with this post.

Supreme Senpai69Apr 7, 20183 votes

Janna and Caitlyn have no excuse. Their VO is entirely sexualized as well. Miss Fortune can be slutty because she's a person. Like, people are slutty sometimes. By all means. But why are a wind spirit and a police officer being so.. lewd?

Sexualization is totally fine as long as it isn't forced.