@Riot, What Restrictions Do Lore Developers Face At Riot Concerning Lore and Story?

Super Loller·May 21, 2016·1 votes·1,068 views

What is Riot's model for developing lore currently? How much are lore decisions affected by gameplay decisions? What kind of lore created by Rioters is rejectedby upper management?

Based on the most recent Rioter posts on this, I've come to the conclusion that the Rioter's who currently publish LoL lore are merely slaves to the mechanics team. Game mechanics come first and Riot's lore department needs to scramble to put together some semblance of a story to explain it. That's a pretty sad state of affairs for Riot, and explains why the League of Legends no longer exists within the game that bears the title.

11 Comments

EndGamer11May 21, 20162 votes

Exactly what lore, in your opinion, makes you think that the writers are slaves to the Gameplay division?

Valaran NaraMay 23, 20162 votes

So, this is just in reference to the whole "lore team slaves to game design" part.

They aren't slaves. Both sides work together to make things work together for a champ. It wouldn't make sense for the champion, in game to have the ability to control mist and water, yet in the lore, they only control fire.

The thing is context to make sure everything flows smoothly together and make sense.

Ekko can crank his machine up and go back in time repeatedly and EVERYTHING resets. But in the actual game, he only resets himself. The two abilities don't match. Especially if we imagine that the other moves Ekko uses aren't things he can truly do in lore.

Yes, he fights, but at the same time, he's just a kid with human limitations. His strength is intelligence and the fact that he has a "redo" button.

For you to imply that Narrative are slaves to game development is quite inaccurate and above all rude and insulting. People who are part of the narrative team are spread out in several different groups to make sure that the character's reads (looks, voice, actions, and overall personality) sync up well with the story they want to tell with them.

Narrative isn't bending down to kiss game dev's butts. They're making sure the development process fits the character THEY wanted to make a story for.

Super LollerMay 24, 20161 votes

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So, this is just in reference to the whole "lore team slaves to game design" part.

They aren't slaves. Both sides work together to make things work together for a champ. It wouldn't make sense for the champion, in game to have the ability to control mist and water, yet in the lore, they only control fire.

The thing is context to make sure everything flows smoothly together and make sense.

Ekko can crank his machine up and go back in time repeatedly and EVERYTHING resets. But in the actual game, he only resets himself. The two abilities don't match. Especially if we imagine that the other moves Ekko uses aren't things he can truly do in lore.

Yes, he fights, but at the same time, he's just a kid with human limitations. His strength is intelligence and the fact that he has a "redo" button.

For you to imply that Narrative are slaves to game development is quite inaccurate and above all rude and insulting. People who are part of the narrative team are spread out in several different groups to make sure that the character's reads (looks, voice, actions, and overall personality) sync up well with the story they want to tell with them.

Narrative isn't bending down to kiss game dev's butts. They're making sure the development process fits the character THEY wanted to make a story for.

I'm sorry to say, the point of your post is purely based off conjecture. Show some actual RIot posts that support what you're saying and I'll listen.

Savage DeviMay 24, 20161 votes

Aren't you the one who isn't providing Riot posts when people ask for them?

The Last BalladMay 25, 20161 votes

yes, he has posted over a hundred of these(I got bored counting) over multiple accounts, and seems to have nothing better to do. It's not like the new lore is crap, it is actually better at explaining backgrounds.

SonaTitsAndAssMay 21, 20161 votes

Step 1. Where is this champ from? Example firelord Step 2. Which side Is this champ on? Ashe Step 3. Who are they? A simple goat farmer with a big heart. Step 4. What is their call to action? A troll boy being traped in a mountain volt. Yep yo guessed it, its Braum But that is u most champs work, all the ones that don't fall in this are basically just "here's random cool shit" bard? Lets just make him god. Kindread? Grim reaper. They can do this with these champions becaus the lore doesn't rely on anyone else's

Super LollerMay 21, 20161 votes

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Step 1. Where is this champ from? Example firelord Step 2. Which side Is this champ on? Ashe Step 3. Who are they? A simple goat farmer with a big heart. Step 4. What is their call to action? A troll boy being traped in a mountain volt. Yep yo guessed it, its But that is u most champs work, all the ones that don't fall in this are basically just "here's random cool shit" bard? Lets just make him god. Kindread? Grim reaper. They can do this with these champions becaus the lore doesn't rely on anyone else's

Thanks for your input, but I was mostly trying to ask about the process for a Champion being incorporated into the lore of the game, and how that was handled by Riot from the perspective of the Rioters who make these decisions in order to get an understanding of how champion design, and champion iteration, works at Riot in its current state.

MavenSongMay 21, 20161 votes

Firelord Braum skin? ... kinda admit thatd be cool. (You typed Firelord instead of Freljord) :p

Super LollerMay 23, 20161 votes

Have you not seen the changes in the lore development process at Riot?

They've almost pretty much straight up said that members of the lore team are now the bitches of the champion development team.

Savage DeviMay 23, 20161 votes

I shall ask for a source on that statement, I'm not up for simply taking your word for it. Also, sneaky how you avoid directly replying to EndGamer. Usually I'd write that off as a mistake but seeing who's doing it, I'm more thinking you're trying to avoid being refuted, like how you tried by switching Boards accounts...

EndGamer11May 23, 20161 votes

[Citation needed]