Once again, Riot doesn't "get" it...

Zero Shingetsu·8/28/2019, 8:47:26 AM·9 votes·8,772 views

New Star Guardian skins have been announced, and what do we have? Another male Star Guardian skin.

Allow me to explain a little something about anime, and the mahou shoujo genre in particular. Having grown up in Japan with a younger sister, I practically have a degree on the subject. I'm not even going to get into the disturbing levels of visual maturity going on with Zoe's face in contrast to her usual demeanor. I'll let you off the hook for that one, because this other thing you've now done twice. Once, okay, novel joke, I'll accept it. But twice, I have to say something.

Anime as a medium isn't just about throwing random colors together (Star Guardian Neeko...) and it's no more about throwing random concepts together. I see League using "anime style" as an excuse to do "lol wacky japanese stuff" to its otherwise serious business characters, and that's... partially offensive, but more importantly, I feel like it's a letdown to these characters when judiciously applying the medium could enrich the skins.

Why is it a problem that there are two male Star Guardians? Because mahou shounen is its own genre entirely. (In point of fact, mahou shoujo was derived heavily from the tokusatsu genre (I think Kamen Rider might have gone to the west...? If not, I think you have a show called Power Rangers that was adapted from a popular tokusatsu; it's that) which itself was made "for boys". Mahou shoujo was literally created to give girls their own chance to shine in a way that the characters from those live action series had in male-oriented action scenes. I digress.)

Apart from one outlier that's basically a novelty comic, Mahou Shounen as a genre puts less emphasis on the flowery stuff and more on the fighting. It's literally "mahou shoujo for boys"; the themes of hope and wonder overcoming some great, often very trope-fueled evil are clear and present, but the style is very different. The art tends to be more harsh and blunt than it does for shoujo series. The characters tend to wear more practical clothing; often, mahou shounen series don't even use transformations at all. It's not about what the characters look like, it's about what they're doing and what's in their heart. The perception, I suppose, is that "boys don't care about all the visual fluff".

In any case, why is this an issue? Because characters like Ezreal and even Rakan could actually benefit from such skins! I can absolutely picture Ezreal as a scrappy magic-wielding teenager who's standing alone (or with a couple friends) against the tide of darkness, in an alternate universe. I can see Rakan as just a charming guy who happens to unlock a unique and wondrous power that he wields primarily to protect the one he loves. I can picture all this. It works, as far as alternate universe skins go.

Now, do men appear in mahou shoujo? Yes. But if they're not secondary characters who their role entirely in the heroines' "normal" lives, they're fanciful in their own, classically male way. Ezreal seems to take some inspiration from the Tuxedo Kamen type characters of the genre, but he doesn't take it far enough. Why is this important? Well, if the man is too fancy, too similar to the heroines, he threatens to push them aside in their own series. That's not his role. His role is to support at key moments and help his heroines shine their brightest. This is why Tuxedo Kamen wears black and literally hides his face. Because the series isn't about him, it's about the Sailor Senshi. His visual appearance sets him apart and gives him a back seat, even at a glance.

Shingetsu, you're rambling. Get to the point.

The point, dear reader, is this: Riot doesn't get the medium it's trying to pay homage to. Let's set aside that "anime" is simply shorthand for animation, and that you can find everything within that medium from abject horror to dumb comedy. Let's pretend for a moment it's a "thing", because it does have its own sort of image, especially overseas. Can you use it to inject some new flavor into your characters with themed skins? Yes! Absolutely. I mean, video games themselves sort of descended from the medium, so it makes enough sense.

However, you need to know what you're doing. If you put cinnamon in pancakes, it can taste really good, right? What if you don't know how to use cinnamon effectively? What if you just stir a random amount in, or worse yet, just throw it on the pancake after it's done? It's not gonna taste all that great. You need to know how to make use of a thing in the context of what it's enhancing, and Riot doesn't seem to do that with anime. In putting an undue spotlight on Rakan and Ezreal, they detract from the spotlight placed on the "heroines" of the theoretical tale. In throwing Neeko the Technicolor Wonder into the mix as an excuse to get wild and crazy with "anime colors", they take attention and impact away from the champions who are actively enriched by the Star Guardian theme, such as Lux and (arguably) Ahri. In trying to do something overly... I dunno, "anime-esque" with Zoe, they literally took away everything that made her look iconic. It doesn't even look like Zoe, it looks like some cocky dark empress from a diminutive fantasy species.

Long story short, I lament as both a League of Legends player and a Japanese man. We have so many cool things that could influence League's skin choices, and they choose to zero in on a couple of very specific "anime tropes", dial them to 255, and sling them around with a yo-yo. So many missed opportunities... And ruined successes! Had these skins stopped at Lux, Star Guardian Lux would've forever been iconic. Now she's just "the least new Star Guardian".

33 Comments

Demon King Maou8/28/2019, 8:54:17 AM13 votes

Unless its stargot we don't caaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaare

ZaFishbone8/28/2019, 11:43:15 AM11 votes

Yeah, so how do i say this, there are many things wrong with these skins, but I don't think most people care about the skin-line fitting PERFECTLY within an specific genre. Genres and conventions can change, specially when being adapted to another culture entirely, so it's VERY exaggerated to ramble about how a particular work doesn't fit PERFECTLY into your perceived notions.

Arakadia8/28/2019, 1:51:03 PM9 votes

Why would we limit off the entire male cast as options for the skinline just so we can say we are exactly following the genre rules? Talk about restricting creativity.

Lifeisbae8/28/2019, 2:45:53 PM6 votes

Talk about gate keeping. Rakan and ezrael are the 2 male league characters that seemingly fit perfect into this archtype. But for whatever reason you complain because it isnt authentic enough for you? Theyre paying homage with these skin lines, not creating a real anime. I hate to say and think this way, but honestly you need to lighten up.

Summon Ari8/28/2019, 3:49:34 PM6 votes

Thank God you don't work at Riot, or they might have more sexual harassment lawsuits.

Cyborg Hentai8/28/2019, 4:27:23 PM6 votes

First of all. There are hundreds of different Magical Girl, or Mahou Shoujo, series. And, honestly there's no reason to bring in the whole "Oh I've been to Japan, I'm so experienced on this subject." card. It makes your whole argument sound childish right off the bat, and that's before even getting into the argument itself, which... is pretty childish. Anyway, there's certainly many different magical girl series, and not all of them fit into your little categorization. Just because you PREFER magical girl series one way, does not mean they all just fall in line with your preferences.

Secondly, the skins are a THEME, not a direct characterization of a genre, or some other creator's guidelines. These skins are meant to appeal to a much wider audience than just Magical Girl, or hell even anime fans. They are based on the magical girl genre, which by the way is not exclusive to Japan. This does not dictate that they have to follow someone else's guidelines for what they consider a Magical Girl theme. No where in the "Star Guardian" line of skins does it say that all Star Guardians must be female. It's Riot's skin lore, not some anime company's, not yours, theirs. And unless they say Star Guardians only allow females, then that in itself counters your entire argument.

Third, I don't know where you're looking at but both Star Guardian Ezreal and Star Guardian Rakan fit perfectly into that niche of male characters from Magical Girl anime you claim to be oh-so familiar with. I mean hell, let's just assume for a minute the only Magical Girl you've ever seen is Sailor Moon, considering it's one of the most acclaimed Shoujo, let alone Mahou Shoujo of all time. Where you could simplify it and say Ezreal would be Tuxedo Mask, Rakan would be inspired by Prince Demand or even the Shadow Galactica saga (where Sailor Guardians and the like are corrupted by another being... Hmmm... Corrupted Guardians... Where have I seen that recently? Oh right.).

So in short, you're wrong. They absolutely fit into the category. You act as though Riot is just a singular person who is making these skins based purely on Google or something. I imagine a high percentage of Rioters are huge into the genre themselves. I guarantee 50%+ at least are otakus in some shape or form. I mean shit, if Yuumi's developers all had to go to a cat hotel for hours and study cats, I can only imagine they put plenty of research into this. And of course, once again, Riot is a slave to neither you nor your ideals. What you like about something is not always what everyone else likes.

So I think maybe _you _just don't "get" it.

Emperor Talquin8/28/2019, 6:56:54 PM5 votes

So from the first 5 lines i've came to the conclusion that the rest isn't worth reading and you are trolling.

Mallum48/28/2019, 3:50:06 PM5 votes

This is the dumbest shit I've ever read this is so stupid and so many ways rethink your life

Yung Slowbro8/28/2019, 6:11:29 PM4 votes

Here just to say no one in the world cares about your knowledge of some anime genre.

Thanks for coming to my TED talk.

TreeHugger Simon8/28/2019, 6:30:15 PM4 votes

Jesus... You're really reaching the bottom of the barrel with that complain mate. I sometimes feel like some people are being paid to complain about random shit.

Please, stop complaining because something Riot does is not perfect for you specifically because it never will be. Honestly, nit pickers like you are extremely frustrating.

Daddy Viktor8/29/2019, 7:08:03 AM3 votes

wtf did i just read???

eh it doesnt matter just give us star guardian Urgot

TheGreatNeos8/28/2019, 4:38:59 PM3 votes

"Guys can't be magical girls" Ayumu Aikawa from Is this a zombie;

Am I a joke to you?

jhusrtse8/29/2019, 1:25:04 PM3 votes

This guy takes anime way too seriously..

Gorzilla8/28/2019, 7:46:10 PM2 votes

Here to say I have talked to multiple (more than 1) females in my lifetime, I practically have a PhD on the subject.

AbiwonKenabi8/28/2019, 4:20:54 PM2 votes

I like having male Star Guardians. I think it should be rare, but I don't see anything wrong with 1 every few girls.

DevoutZealus8/28/2019, 7:34:30 PM2 votes

im with OP. it seems their point is that riot often disregards the culture of what their adapting in order for a profit based on what will sell. They're hollow attempts instead of good ones.

Murwinkle8/29/2019, 2:38:26 AM2 votes

Anime is trash

Mecha ASol8/29/2019, 3:57:32 AM2 votes

No. The problem is Taliyah still has not received a skin, and yet 4 champions released after her all got skins lol.

rayjiin078/29/2019, 1:24:32 PM2 votes

Suggestions for you:

  1. Don't buy it.
  2. Ignore it.
  3. Can't deal with it? Talk directly to a rioter.
  4. You can do better? Get a job in Riot Games and do whatever skin lines you want.
  5. Too bothersome for you? Install 3rd party program skin generators.
  6. You'll get banned for using illegal programs? Then stop whining just play.
Guccimaybe8/29/2019, 2:10:21 PM2 votes

This is so extra I don't even know what to say. No one likes a gatekeeper

Hunkmenlordy8/29/2019, 12:17:05 AM1 votes

Are you a real Japanese OTAKU? There are alot of anime featuring "magic boys" instead of magic girls, male version SG is quite normal.

DBS Ronovon8/29/2019, 2:36:52 AM1 votes

Dude, I have been saying this for years. The weeb trash anime trope lovers are all the fanboys here bro. If you want stuff that isn't full of chomo bait sexy little girl, animal furry fuck fetish and anime trophish garbage, then you'll need to find another game.

Sorry man..... [sg-soraka]

Kyochi8/29/2019, 2:38:02 AM1 votes

Gatekeeping much? Also, Cute High Earth Defense Club Love! says Hi (look it up. not even joking, its an actually Magical Boy Anime.)

Space Thespian9/21/2019, 11:22:17 PM1 votes

Sorry for the late post, but I think it's worth noting, zoes skin takes heavy inpiration from "Puella Magi Madoka Magica" Which is a very different kind of mahou shoujo. But thats why I love it, all of zoes effects, visual and audio, the theme, even the official video release, have HEAVY inpiration from madoka(final movies ending especially), and zoes charecter has traits from several of the charecters depending on what point in the show/movies your looking, hell I always thought there where some madoka references amoung the guardians with luxes design being similar to madoka. Basically Idk bout ezreal, cuz I love his dumb voicelines with that skin, and while I dont care too much about the xayah rakan skins, I love zoes meguca meduka theme, and now im convinced the demon that is yuumi needs a kyuubey themed legendary skin next star guardian event, plz rito

Lovers Leap8/29/2019, 3:08:03 AM1 votes

LMAO

Lovers Leap8/29/2019, 3:23:56 AM1 votes

Allow me to explain a little something about anime, and the Hentai genre in particular. Having grown up in Japan with a younger sister, I practically have a degree on the subject. I'm not even going to get into the SEXY levels of visual maturity going on with Zoe's face. in contrast to her usual overdressed attire. I'll let you off the hook for that one, because this other thing you've now done twice. Once, okay, novel joke, I'll accept it. But twice, I have to say something. Hentai as a medium isn't just about throwing random boobies together (Horny Demon Invasion...) and it's no more about throwing weiners together. I see League using "Hentai style" as an excuse to do "lol wacky hentai stuff" to its otherwise serious sexy characters, and that's... partially offensive, but more importantly, I feel like it's a letdown to these characters when judiciously applying the medium could enrich the skins.