Overall quality of lore for 2017 [poll]

KING OF MASKS·12/3/2017, 7:31:59 PM·1 votes·717 views

I stopped paying attention to League at around this time one year ago (just before Yorick's rework) for a couple reasons, one of them being the lore drought that was still in effect. At the time my assessment was that the ratio of Riot's success and size to the quality/quantity of their storytelling was laughably bad and had been that way for years. The rate at which lore was released and the seeming lack of care for what was already established usually counteracted whatever good stories they managed to produce.

The ongoing Varus fiasco seems to confirm that this trend is alive and well, but I don't know how the rest of 2017 has been; hence this thread. How has Riot's storytelling changed over the past year, if at all? Has communication improved? Is that Jaredan guy still in charge? How about that so-called Foundations team, have they done anything of note? Any and all opinions welcome.

16 Comments

Sharjo12/3/2017, 7:41:21 PM7 votes

The issue isn't quality, it's direction. It's the direction that people have issue with. Generally the quality's good.

DariusDemiurge12/3/2017, 8:34:42 PM6 votes

The videos, and art side are fantastic. Like the visuals in the varus video were nice.

But the writing is pretty subpar, the deletion of characters we liked as opposed to modifications to said characters are a sin. My broken record statement, I fear a bit for Morgana and Kayle's update in the future.

Warlord Dienekes12/3/2017, 9:14:33 PM4 votes

Your view of the quality of the stories will always be biased toward what you respond to.

Personally I thought the Demacia update was overall good. But Galio’s lore was near nonsensical if you give it a moment’s thought.

Characters like Kayn, Zoe, and the love birds are either everything you want in a character or the most annoying childish champions Riot has ever released. Depending on who you ask.

The MF and Darius comics were good. The Nami and Ziggs/Jinx comics bored me.

The only character I am at all interested in within Zaun was Urgot. His lore was... acceptable. They removed the interesting parts of his character to make him more of a stereotypical badass thug. Which is fine, I guess. It just isn’t the Urgot I originally liked.

Then there’s the Varus update. Which is a hotbed. On the face of it, there really isn’t any more actual depth to the story told in either versions. So it will come down to which personally you felt attached to. A man who loses his family for the sake of duty. Or the inclusion of homosexuality in the lore. Both are fine. They are just not the same thing, anyone who claims the new just expands on the old is lying to themselves.

Now the writing quality has improved. They’ve started writing the lore like actual stories, with more than the basic details. That is pretty much indisputable. Whether you like the stories being told is ultimately up to you.

Personally, I’d say there are more bad than good. But what good there is can be pretty great.

Edit: oh and forgot a positive. Taken in a vacuum, Ornn’s lore does myth building better than anything else Riot has tried. It’s better than the mysterious mysticism of Illaoi. It’s more interesting than the two psychopomps, and blows Targon away in just about every conceivable category to compare the two.

However, I’m going to guarantee that when Volibear gets rewritten completely you’ll see a response not unlike Varus. Now Varus’ will be bigger, undoubtedly. But a shaman trying to tame his own people and create a better tomorrow is so far removed from the thousand pierces bear, or whatever he was called, that they have no actual similarities anymore.

Lumiose912/3/2017, 7:33:09 PM3 votes

the lore is great for every new champ / rework. the only issue is everyone whining and never being satisfyed

AbiwonKenabi12/3/2017, 9:32:37 PM3 votes

It's hit or miss. Sometimes they'll hit home runs like the Darius comic (in fact all the comics except the Varus ones were pretty good this year), or anything they've done with Miss Fortune starting with the Bilgewater update until now. I think most of my issues personally come when they update a Champion's lore. Riot doesn't seem to understand that updating a Champion doesn't always mean throwing them in the garbage. You've got updates like Warwick or Urgot, both of which I thought did a pretty good job retaining the essence of the character, while making their story more interesting. Then you've got Galio and this Varus debacle where they just threw them in the trash and incinerated them.

And like someone else here said, the newer Champions are completely personal preference; for my own part, I'm glad we got more down to Earth Champs like Xayah, Rakan, Kayn, and Camille, but then we got Ornn (who, while fun, is ANOTHER god-like character), and before this we were getting like A Sol and Bard, just too OP for my tastes.

MysterQ12/3/2017, 8:30:23 PM1 votes

I think we need also to clarify.

The quality has improved, but we should not let quality of production change our overall judgment on the quality/worth of the story being told. Don't be blinded just by the shiny toys.

Tesla Effect12/4/2017, 8:10:28 PM1 votes

Cant really complain. As someone whose job is to archive and record each lore change in League of Legends, the new lore is way better than anything that came before. Everything is connected in a way not seen in Institute Runeterra.

WOOOOOOOOHOOOOOO12/3/2017, 9:38:45 PM1 votes

People tend not to like the general direction of the retcon, but I’m very interested in it and I thought Lore improved this year.

KING OF MASKS12/4/2017, 8:02:47 PM1 votes

Thanks for all the responses, this level of optimism is heartening.

GreenLore12/3/2017, 8:54:50 PM1 votes

Overall I really liked the demacia and zaun lore updates for the most parts(only thing I didin't really like there was the death of Zacs parents,that felt kinda forced and like a waste of an opportunity and the fact that Jinxs&Vis relationship didn't get any info).

Aside from that we got the vastaya update and a few comics,which were ok in my opinion,though I don't think they were anything too major either. I'm pretty neutral about the new Varus lore,I feel like they wasted some good opportunities,but I do think that it has its good sides as well.

However as far as the new champions go I am a bit disappointed. I'm not really a fan of the lores of Xayah,Rakan,Kayn and Zoe. They weren't really terrible and did give some insight about some things,but in the end I feel like they were all not very good. Only Ornns lore was interesting in my opinion.