Why I think Riot's Apology was warranted

ShadowGlaive213·4/9/2018, 4:21:54 PM·21 votes·4,642 views

With about half the front page's active threads being centered around Riot's apology for Kai'Sa's "V-Neck" for the past few days I felt the need to post my thoughts on the matter.

First let’s get some things straight:

Everyone is influenced by the media they consume, often in subtle and nuanced ways, which is why people are and have been calling for more diversity and better representation, and games are not an exception.

Yes, male characters are sexualized as well, but in different ways and at a disproportionate rate compared to female characters.

Sexualization is not the same thing as objectification, though they often come hand in hand.

Low-cut outfits and long flowing hair isn’t the only way to make a character attractive (i.e. Taliyah), and showing skin is not necessarily sexualizing (i.e. Jinx).

Kai’Sa’s exposed cleavage is problematic because there is no reasonable explanation for why it’s there other than the long tradition by artists to make female characters eye-candy. The issue with sexualizing characters when it’s not part of who they are is that it makes the work seem shallow and makes it about the viewer rather than the character, thus objectifying them.

Much of the community challenged Riot to explore different ways a woman can be attractive or disgusting, to show us all the different kinds of women that exist in Runeterra and they indicated that they would. They showed us they can come up with new, more original designs like Rek'Sai, Illaoi, and Zoe. In comparison Kai'Sa seemed like a disappointing step backward from what they previously promised so the apology was warranted.

22 Comments

Colgate Gator4/9/2018, 4:27:05 PM8 votes

While I can sort of get where you're coming from. You have bigger issues than Kai'Sa's V neck line in your hands if you truly believe an apology is warranted over the design of their Champion that didn't quite hit home like they would have wanted.

I probably would have gone with the word "explanation" or something. Stop treating Riot like you would with a significant other.

saltran4/9/2018, 5:06:20 PM6 votes

Really well written post and I agree, take my upvote.

Dragfin4/9/2018, 4:30:06 PM5 votes

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With about half the front page's active threads being centered around Riot's apology for Kai'Sa's "V-Neck" for the past few days I felt the need to post my thoughts on the matter.

First let’s get some things straight:

Everyone is influenced by the media they consume, often in subtle and nuanced ways, which is why people are and have been calling for more diversity and better representation, and games are not an exception.

Yes, male characters are sexualized as well, but in different ways and at a disproportionate rate compared to female characters.

Sexualization is not the same thing as objectification, though they often come hand in hand.

Low-cut outfits and long flowing hair isn’t the only way to make a character attractive (i.e. Taliyah), and showing skin is not necessarily sexualizing (i.e. Jinx).

Kai’Sa’s exposed cleavage is problematic because there is no reasonable explanation for why it’s there other than the long tradition by artists to make female characters eye-candy. The issue with sexualizing characters when it’s not part of who they are is that it makes the work seem shallow and makes it about the viewer rather than the character, thus objectifying them.

Much of the community challenged Riot to explore different ways a woman can be attractive or disgusting, to show us all the different kinds of women that exist in Runeterra and they indicated that they would. They showed us they can come up with new, more original designs like Rek'Sai, Illaoi, and Zoe. In comparison Kai'Sa seemed like a disappointing step backward from what they previously promised so the apology was warranted.

People who actually care about this type of stuff need to get a life. It goes the same with all them idiots who do whatever they can to try and push their beliefs on others. You can believe in things and not hurt anyone by keeping your hole shut. There is no problem saying something if someone personally attacks you but there is absolutely no reason to be offended by something that you have no ownership in whatsoever, like this game. If you don't like what RIOT does then stay the hell out of the game and HOLY SHIT, you don't see it. It's a friggin miracle how that works.

It really is that simple. People with no lives make things difficult.

Quepha4/9/2018, 9:07:16 PM4 votes

The apology was warranted, but I don't think they did a good job with it. They seemed to focus completely on whether or not it was vulgar and didn't really seem to understand that people were complaining because Kai'sa very clearly seemed to have sexiness at the expense of other interesting elements that she was ripe for. Subsequently, all further conversation on the subject seems to be about an old and settled argument instead of the actual problems with Kai'sa (i.e. the most upvoted thread right now is the lazy, outdated satire that features Aurelion Sol).

PapaGreg214/9/2018, 6:21:19 PM4 votes

I am more interested in playing good looking champs to be honest. So this design appeals to me

Votable Jester4/9/2018, 9:54:33 PM4 votes

I think Kai'Sa is fine.

Sure you can want more variety in champion appearances and want them to "explore different ways a woman can be attractive," but that doesn't mean they shouldn't make any more conventionally attractive females. As you said, they've had Rek'Sai (if you really count her), Illaoi, and Zoe as very different designs on female champions. Producing a conventionally attractive female should still be allowed.

Then again, I'm of the opinion that it's perfectly fine for fictional characters to be disproportionately more attractive than real people on the basis that I'd much rather see pretty people in my games than ugly. You can say there are other ways to make characters attractive, but there's a reason there's a conventionally attractive character.

I fail to see the harm in having characters that are conventionally attractive. Sure they shouldn't all be that way, but they aren't. The last few haven't been and now people are complaining that one is. I find that unreasonable, and do not believe Riot should have apologized for this.

KestrelGirl4/10/2018, 2:50:12 AM3 votes

THANK YOU! This is what I've been trying to say!

ShadowWolf2524/10/2018, 6:37:31 PM2 votes

Extremely well-written argument. Thank you for posting this! Also, great user name. ;)

Usefully Useless4/9/2018, 9:28:08 PM2 votes

It all boils down to was it intentional. Did Riot head into the design with the intention of sexualizing a champion in a demeaning manner? If not then it just purely boils down to a few select people had nothing else to bitch about today and then people who are easily influenced followed the footsteps. Honestly it is not a big deal unless there really are some devious sexist Riot designers, which I doubt. Let's be honest, there are blatant displays of sexism and there are this type, where butthurt people find things to be butthurt about. Normal, level-headed people see no harm in it and move on. The rest like to complain about certain characteristics of female cartoon anatomy while they eat tide pods and snort condoms.

IceKingChernobog4/10/2018, 7:10:00 PM1 votes

i have to disagree with this, the issue wasn’t with her exposed V-line. the issue with kaisa was that how she looked disconnected with her lore. Kai’sa in lore was stated to be fighting for her life and constantly moving in ordee to survive in the void. What kaisa visually look like some model getting ready for a photo shoot.

  1. I wanted her to have a athletic/amazonian physique not slim n curvy super model look. She’s been in the void for years yet she has her hair is well moistrized and make up on her face. This isn’t the look if a survivalist, she should have battle scars when she does show her face, dry chapped lips, unkept hair since beauty doesn’t help you survive in the void. I find nothing wrong with her showing a bit of skin to empathize her humanity. Cause god forbid it’s not like there are champions who have a bit of skin showing Ahri Braum Rakan KaynJinx
I Main Swain4/9/2018, 9:48:41 PM1 votes

first of all, riot never apologized

second, rather than an apology, they gave an explaination to it that actually counters your claim to their being no purpose

P4ppino4/10/2018, 11:59:33 AM1 votes

This can only be a problem in NA, how sad is that xd Well I guess I have something to laugh on. NA, you never seize to amaze me. Carry on. [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]