Kalista does not fulfill the expectations set by her storyline

Fury and Emperor·11/23/2014, 11:55:03 PM·24 votes·2,308 views

"I invoke thee, Lady of Vengeance," she said, her voice low, trembling with the depth of her fury. "From beyond the veil, hear my plea. Come forth. Let justice be done."

Supports are typically nice guys and gals. The only mean support is Thresh and even he is there to collect souls. Adcs are the hotshot solo superstars. This is the way it is because champions typically look and feel like the way they play, and when an adc arrives on the scene, everyone bows to them and peels for them. Every adc has a little bit of Draven in them.

So we are asked to believe that Nami hates someone so much that she wants to summon Kalista and watch her kill them for her while she buffs Kalista? Um, no.

Lulu Sona Nami Soraka Do these look like the faces of hatred?

It makes far more sense the other way round: Kalista-as-a-support is summoned by, say, Graves still angry about the slammer, or Ashe who wants Lissandra and pig gone from the Freljord even at the cost of her own soul. Said Kalista-as-a-support then disables the opponent and watches with a smile on her face as Graves tells TF he won't put him behind bars and blasts his head off.

Kalista --------------------------- Lucian ----------> Thresh

In short, Kalista's lore portrays her as an enabler, but she actually plays like a selfish jet pilot adc bonding with people against their will and tossing them at the enemy to die for her. There is nothing wrong with this (aside from the grief potential, but that's on CertainlyT) if she was actually out for her own vengeance and used other people as tools to achieve it.

As is... she's awkward.

23 Comments

A Superb Villain11/24/2014, 2:21:29 AM28 votes
Siachi11/24/2014, 12:00:29 AM13 votes

Yeah, I see what you mean; especially since, just about every time I've played with a Kalista, I usually lock in Braum to support her, and Braum doesn't really have a not-nice bone in his body.

(Not just 'doesn't have a mean bone'; ALL of him is nice, friendly, and jovial... this analogy is getting awkward isn't it?)

kDrakari11/24/2014, 6:02:03 AM11 votes

Kalista in lore isn't really portrayed that much as an enabler. She doesn't provide power to people to allow them to take revenge, she finds people who want revenge and then goes and gets it herself while using the souls of her contractors as a resource along the way. The only part of her gameplay that's particularly against her lore is the part where her soulbound doesn't have a choice in the matter.

I mean, it doesn't necessarily line up 100% with the OTHER champions' lore, but it would be pretty restrictive if she could only use the binding on champions that had a grievance against one of the champions on the enemy team.

BTW, Soraka may not be the type of character that would be super into vengeance, but she does have a particular betrayal that would qualify her to make the pact.

Narasimha11/24/2014, 1:53:27 AM8 votes

Swain is the head general and a master tactician. Fights by turning into a giant bird. Leona brings down the sun, but I have yet to see a champion with skin cancer. Aatrox is a legendary hero who raises downtrodden armies to fight once more. Fights entirely on his own. Fiora is a master fencer and duelist. Her ultimate has her jumping around attacking everything like a grasshopper gone mad.

Seriously, lore and the Rift are two different things entirely.

Trylobyte11/24/2014, 2:13:19 PM7 votes

People invoke Kalista to get revenge precisely because they're too weak to do it themselves. Who's often too weak to get it themselves? Supports. And sometimes junglers. Both of whom are the people she's most likely to bond with.

As for accepting the Spear, most champions in League would have no reason to do so, including the ones with logical grievances. They're strong enough to do it themselves, why would they want to sell their souls? Kalista even lampshades it when she taunts Graves - Graves refuses to give into her because he doesn't want her help.

It's really just gameplay and story segregation either way. The people who would need Kalista's help aren't champions, they're regular folks. League doesn't have any regular folks. But she does stay true-ish to the theme in that the people who accept her help on the Rift are the ones who often have the least kill potential.

turkeyBACON11/24/2014, 7:25:51 AM3 votes

As much as I dislike the new lore direction, I don't think that it's the lore fault that the gameplay doesn't stay as true to the story. It's basically impossible to have that minute details stay true in the gameplay. Some caveats have to be made just so their is a working character to play. Another person already posted some incongruous characters and these differences have to be expected otherwise there is no balanced game to play. Just so we're clear I hate that the League was removed but this nit picking of who or how kalista bonds with isn't helping. kalista is the avatar of vengence, by your logic she would only be able to be picked if cassi/xerath/tf/backstabbing champs on the enemy team. And even then she would only be able to damage those particular champs.

As an aside, Kalista is an "enabler" as much as a gun enables a person to kill someone else. Sure you point the gun at the person to die but the gun/kalista is doing all the actual work.

Scarborough Fair11/24/2014, 1:58:23 PM2 votes

Kalista as a support would have been way worse for her lore People kill themselves to watch HER do the killing, while all supports are peaceful and wouldn't do that, you have to remember that Lore =/= game

GreenLore11/24/2014, 2:16:36 PM1 votes

Kalista as a support wouldn't make that much sense either,since that would basically mean that they hire kalista,but then do the majority of the work themselves. However it is Kalista who hunts down the betrayer and so kalista needs to be the big threat to them,not the person who sold their soul to her.

Kalista tossing around her soul mate represents how these have bonded to kalista and are now part of her and with every soul she gets stronger.

Also in terms of supports being too nice to hire kalista: well there we have gameplay and story seperation,I mean we can also use swain and j4 in the same team,or Lucian&Thresh,etc. And while we do have adcs who might hire Kallista like Sivir,lucian or graves,ashe could hire kalista once Lissandra backstabs her(currently Lissandra is still under the disguise of the benevolent ice dervish and sejuani is no betrayer,so she is no possibility),we also have Soraka(who was betrayed by warwick and would give her soul if it meant to kill him if she can save many others this way) or Morgana(who probably feels like Kayle betrayed her and I think Kayle thinks the other way around) and we never know what other supports riot might give us or what champs suddenly turn out to be good supports due to balance changes

Junkο11/24/2014, 7:14:11 PM1 votes

You can play her as an supp if you want. The dmg will most of the time win you the lane.