Maybe I'm the only one bothered by this...

For Carthage··9 votes·15,176 views

Poppy's rework is out on the PBE now with all of her splashes.

She looks pretty damn cool. I like it a lot. But...

http://i.imgur.com/cviFknF.jpg

I feel like something's off...

http://i.imgur.com/fJqzGhR.jpg

Something just... doesn't feel right here...

http://i.imgur.com/TX3To5Y.jpg

............................. Oh. That's what was bothering me...

Okay, so I may be the literal only person for this to just completely derail my entire enthrallment by how lovely the rework is. It seems nitpicky and just really douchy to hone in on this one little aspect of the picture.

But I'm going to. I'm going to point at this and I will, even though I'm well aware this will likely not change a thing, still say, "No, no, no no, no. Absolutely not. That is not okay."

So first of all, let's just establish where

http://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/characters/9/227333.jpg

this

http://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/characters/13/126935.jpg

comes

https://avvesione.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/dog_days_s2-13-jaune-happy-cat_ears-fang-tiger_stripped.jpg

From.

It's anime. The inspiration and sole circulation of this little practice in animation comes from anime. And that's not necessarily bad in and of itself - I am not myself a huge fan of anime, but this game already has so much influence from the crap that if that were the sole reason for me not liking it on Poppy, I would have quit long ago.

No, it's what the protruding-fang represents in anime and, by practice therein, everywhere else it's ever shown.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/f6/61/6d/f6616d7efd8b11398018525d4d6cb700.jpg

It comes from a very common occurrence in cats where their fangs will stick outside of their mouths noticeably - already a cat's canine teeth (they're just known as canine teeth for mammals, dogs beat everyone to it) do naturally stick outside of the mouth and are generally covered by their flaps. However, especially canine teeth can protrude a small way out, and again, not uncommon to see this at all.

So what does this have to do at all with anime and the Poppy splashes?

Well, the Japanese appropriated the single-canine to commonly characterize the common archetype of a "catgirl" - just some normal broad who happens to have cat parts in their cartoons. By and large, nothing really special about their existence other than they have cat features. Eventually, rather than simply buffer the appearance of somebody literally part feline, the fang became an easy appropriation to denote characters who generally act "catty" - characters who would be identifiable as having cat-like behavioral qualities or practices. This can range from simple playfulness and childishness to things like cleverness, carelessness, selfishness, eccentricity - name a quality off a cat, you're basically hitting the nail on the head. But generally, it quickly establishes in a scene and in a character a sense of overall aloofness, oddity, and above all... cuteness. If you've ever seen a point in an anime in which this trope shows up, well... you'll get what I'm talking about then.

Which brings this whole, long-ass post to its final point:

This trope is not fitting of Poppy. Neither before nor now. From the way the Poppy announcer sounded to the way she's portrayed in literally any of her splashes, she is not "catty" - she is not meant to be shown as cunning, carefree, eccentric, or even really cute. I mean, inherently she's a bit cute because she comes from a race of tiny beings with big eyes and fuzzy ears - really hard to look ferocious when you're basically a humanoid teddy bear. But this:

http://i.imgur.com/TX3To5Y.jpg

This does not match her style or behavior. It doesn't match her personality, it doesn't match her appearance. No matter how I look at it in any of her splashes, she doesn't look right. It's not executed well. Hell, even Tristana's got it better:

http://lol.esportspedia.com/w/images/thumb/1/19/Tristana_0.jpg/200px-Tristana_0.jpg

And hers is basically a chipped tooth. But it looks in-place - it's not jarring to the eye. I don't feel pulled to that one aspect of her like this trope tends to do in anime - you're supposed to notice it when it comes up. It's meant to quickly convey a sense of personality in order to make you identify a character as quickly as possible so that you can focus more on the story and further development. The fact that I notice it on Poppy shouldn't be considered odd - the fact that Poppy has this at all should be. It's out of place. In all of the splashes she either looks like a wannabe vampire or lazy anime chic. It's that one straw too much to try and bring personality to a character that is already at first glance packed with personality to the point you could probably pitch a show just based on the picture and call it the Breaking Bad sequel - just with fuzzy Oompa-Loompas.

So that's my lament - that I would absolutely adore the splash-arts and the rework if it weren't for... that. Really all I needed to say.

57 Comments

ViashinoWizard12 votes

Personally, I like it. To me it doesn't say "catty" so much as "cute but tough": she might be small, but she's (literally) got fangs. Well, fang.

For Carthage4 votes

If they'd demonstrate that she had lost the other fang, I'd be all for it. As it is, it's a common anime trope that's unfitting of her. All of her splashes have perfectly square teeth and then the one, obvious fang - it's out of place on her for all her experience and power. If they're going to put it on her, I want it to be hers, not just a passing thought to say, "Aww, let's make her a cuddwy wuddwy thing."

S H A Y C 09 votes

Its not jarring to eye at all. it is just you. and the tooth is well in place with the pointy feline ears. Except for corki, all the yordles are pretty much adorable...and thats the point. They are the bunny guarding the cave in monty pythons holy grail. Adorable little fuzzy bunnies with a pile of bones strewn before them, smiling giving off that innocent charm as they rip you limb from limb. You showed tristana...she is a structure destroying face melting menace..and yet she is so adorable. I think the new poppy is the poppy that should have been in the first place.

Ebonmaw Dragon7 votes

Its not about her "style", its something about her race.

In the past, everyone cried because all the yordles where different... now they decided to put the same characteristics to all the members of their race: Fur, Short size, Fangs, Long animal like ears, 4 fingers, animal like eyes.

It wouldn't make sense, if only some yordles had fangs and others didn't... its not about personality, its about DNA.

For Carthage3 votes

We can easily assume, then, that Poppy has fangs - two of them - by her not having the singular fang.

But take a look at all of her other splash arts - all of them. She only has the one singular fang in every one of them. The rest of her teeth are perfectly square, perfectly in-line. There's no specialty to it, there's no thought put into it, it is an anime trope.

I believe you misunderstood the point I was trying to make, so I'm going to reiterate: having fangs is not a bad thing, and clearly I'm okay with Tristana having it (no reason not to be, fuzzy race of long eared short-stacks, I'd be silly to expect different). It's the fact that the singular, protruding fang is a very well-established concept in animes (and by western assimilation of eastern animation, can be found occasionally in western animation) to signify a character's personality as leaning towards cute. It's a very archetypal and lazy physical trait to put in artwork just to make things cuter, and ultimately it takes away from Poppy more than it actually gives back. If she were to have some kind of personal link to such a trait, then it would be passable - as is, it comes off as lazy and generic.

Ebonmaw Dragon1 votes

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We can easily assume, then, that Poppy has fangs - two of them - by her not having the singular fang.

But take a look at all of her other splash arts - all of them. She only has the one singular fang in every one of them. The rest of her teeth are perfectly square, perfectly in-line. There's no specialty to it, there's no thought put into it, it is an anime trope.

I believe you misunderstood the point I was trying to make, so I'm going to reiterate: having fangs is not a bad thing, and clearly I'm okay with Tristana having it (no reason not to be, fuzzy race of long eared short-stacks, I'd be silly to expect different). It's the fact that the singular, protruding fang is a very well-established concept in animes (and by western assimilation of eastern animation, can be found occasionally in western animation) to signify a character's personality as leaning towards cute. It's a very archetypal and lazy physical trait to put in artwork just to make things cuter, and ultimately it takes away from Poppy more than it actually gives back. If she were to have some kind of personal link to such a trait, then it would be passable - as is, it comes off as lazy and generic.

So, it would be better if they added the second fang?

For Carthage1 votes

They can add the second fang or take the first one away, or at the very, very least make the first one say something about her rather than just be that exact trope - it's a tooth. Chip it to show she's a warrior. Dull it a bit to show she's seasoned. Add the second one but make that one broken. Doesn't matter. As it is, it is nothing but a cliche on an otherwise very solid design with a lot of strong originality (obviously you can still find things similar since everything's been done before, but you're not going to find something exactly the same).

SexySoapTurtle7 votes

People complain about the most irrelevant shit

For Carthage2 votes

The story has no real relevance to the game. But some people enjoy the story and would like the characters to reflect their written concept as much as possible. Little to no reason to bother commenting when you appear to have no personal interest in these kinds of topics.

ShakySurgeon2 votes

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The story has no real relevance to the game. But some people enjoy the story and would like the characters to reflect their written concept as much as possible. Little to no reason to bother commenting when you appear to have no personal interest in these kinds of topics.

Personally I think you're taking this a bit far for something so insignificant and hardly noticeable unless you really look.

For Carthage2 votes

If that were the case, then nobody should care if I have a problem with it or not.

Yet you clearly seem to want to combat me on the idea.

I caught it immediately, honestly. I saw a white mark on a quick glance and when I actually looked there it was. It seemed out of place from the start.

Some people don't like when numbers aren't nice and rounded from decimal points. Some people can't stand when their clothes aren't coordinated and sorted just right. Some people can't stand if their CD/Movie/Game library isn't alphabetized. I'm a bit bothered when I see something out of place, and considering I'm going to see Poppy's splash-arts around a lot more in the coming days/weeks/months/years, I took the time to figure out why it bothered me so much.

SexySoapTurtle2 votes

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The story has no real relevance to the game. But some people enjoy the story and would like the characters to reflect their written concept as much as possible. Little to no reason to bother commenting when you appear to have no personal interest in these kinds of topics.

You clearly don't know me then. And you can't claim to either. Anyway moving on from the baby talk. The fang is going to stay. This is just petty nit picking at something that isn't wrong in the first place. You are taking something so insignificant to a higher level because YOU think it doesn't fit her.

For Carthage1 votes

Didn't I say that originally?

Am I talking to Sherlock here?

ExHentai4 votes

2qt4u

For Carthage5 votes

And?

Is that Poppy's personality? No. Why then is she packing an out-of-place piece that is literally meant to denote a character centered around being "cute"?

Rabid Husky2 votes

would you rather her still be ugly?Poppy i mean really now poppys personality atm is serious diplomat no fun just business if you dont wanna talk with her then wallop will be more than happy to oblige. NEW poppy however if you listen to her shows shes young cute and less serious. it shows the carefree personality that yordles all have, as for it being out of place i can kinda agree but it is needed since without it shed look like smurfetts cousin still and it does add some yordle cattiness they all usually share

For Carthage3 votes

I don't believe Poppy was herself ugly before in concept - she had outdated art and outdated models. While the headstrong, unyielding diplomat was itself overdone, I think they could have pulled it off on her and still made it work so long as she fit the bill.

New Poppy's personality is not a problem - you do have her personality wrong, however. As she stands, she has taken on the new identity of "paragon of neutrality" - she's slow to condemn, anger, or even strike. She sees both sides of an issue and considers them both before making a decision instead of "well, you're all going to sit here and get along and you're going to damn well enjoy it." Now it's, "Well, I don't really condone war... but I guess I can see why Demacia could be angry at Noxus. And Noxus has suffered a lot at the hands of Demacia." The side she chooses in the end is going to be the one she views as most right in their actions - as a logical and calculating diplomat ought to be. She's not inherently cute, and she's not "less serious", but she is definitely at least more laid-back than previous Poppy.

This brings us to the end point, though, where you basically asked if I think that Poppy should have received a change at all. And I never said I didn't think she needed one - in fact, I wholeheartedly condone her being changed like this. But that doesn't mean that there aren't particular pieces that could have been gotten wrong - and that's what I'm getting to here. Not that Poppy should never have been changed - but that parts of her are not congruent with the rest of her change.

Rabid Husky1 votes

what i'm getting is that you are for current live poppy over the new change due to her being a mature diplomat for demacia, i can respect that.

tho i do have a couple of counter points, for starters shes for peace but she wants to avenge her father so she has no issue smashing skulls especially noxian skulls so shes more than willing to forgo peace if the situation demands much less "sit there and you will like it" more "get in my way i dare you" if you think otherwise it even states in her lore "shortly after, seeking to crush noxius with her fathers hammer, she joined the league of legends" now that sounds slow to condemn anger or strike doesn't it,

she is much more serious on live servers hell her joke is "jokes? i don't know any jokes" shes logical thoughtful mature and over all seems very business oriented unlike other yordles we see so far.

lastly riot is trying to show yordle women in a certain way as it is yordle boys are covered in fur and yordle girls are generally not so much mirroring humans but yordles have a catlike quality to them trist has little fangs and so does poppy since they were updated.its also apparent in the eyes and eyes, the fangs help tie the theme together while adding a cute feature and keeps them from looking like smurfs.

i get small stuff bugs people im not saying your point is stupid some stuff just really bugs people, atleast the fang is gone in game and its only prevalent on raggety poppy blacksmith the valkyrie one and her base splashart

For Carthage1 votes

Well no to the second paragraph, when I said that I was referring to Poppy as she stands now on the PBE - I had started off that paragraph specifically talking about Poppy's new personality. Poppy as she stands on the PBE now is how she stands all in all - old Poppy is basically dead other than memories of what was. I have been speaking strictly of what she's become on the PBE.

Now on what Riot's been making Yordles, I understand it's more catlike - I've seen Yordles and their growth for a while now. I understand they have "little" fangs, but Poppy literally has one single fang - one. Only one. All skins show one. She only has one fang. It's not a call to her being a Yordle or they'd have just given her the pair or had her at least partially showing her set of teeth - it's an attempt to establish it as part of her character. In any picture where her mouth is visible, the fang is visible - and if you think it's absent from the in-game model, well... it might not actually be. There's a tinge of discoloration on the lips on each model in the exact same spot - either my eyes are just seeing the damn thing everywhere now, the coloration is just uncannily placed, or Riot actually took the time to add that smallest pixel - which would kind of beg the question of "what the hell" involving Wolf. However, I'm not going to argue that I'd be able to ever see it while running around the rift - I just wouldn't. It's too small unless I'm intent on scrolling way into her face.

But I've said before - the fang is a forced identity. It's trying to push a cuter appearance to her that she doesn't need because, as you've said, Yordles basically just equal cute, so there wouldn't even be a need to force in such a thing. They just naturally are, so defending the singular fang as a push to make her cuter is doing one of two things - either a plain Yordle isn't inherently cute and so adding the fang goes against Poppy altogether since it's no longer a part of her species to be cute, or the fang is an additive that's supposed to make her cute when she already is, rendering the presence of it entirely pointless. In either case, it's a cliche trope that hasn't got a place any way you slice it. It's something people are quick to just accept, but it's like wearing a bow tie on a normal one - you already look fancy, you don't need to double it up. Yordles are already cute, you don't have to try to increase their cuteness.

Hell, if you think they look like smurfs, they even addressed that by making Poppy's face fuzzy - I think confusing the two at this point is going to either take some veritable effort or you're not even bothering to look.

But the worst part, honestly, is that it makes her seem overly young - she looks inexperienced, entirely unpracticed, green as the grass. She doesn't look like a guardian at all. The kind of "young cute" generally lends itself to some amount of innocence and ignorance, which from what Poppy is supposed to be (and sounds and acts as), that's so off-kilter that a uni-cyclist in a earthquake is less shaky.

I appreciate the argument, but... I can't see any real, concrete reason the fang has a place here.

Rabid Husky1 votes

I think that's the over all idea to look and feel young, i don't know what her new extended lore is but she is around trist age looks and acts closer to corkies currently so the whole "greenhorn"thing makes sense since shes a blacksmith not a worrior. also i actually just noticed she has fuzz on her face lol makes me wonder if tristana shaves or something, while cliche it is just accept since it does make anime fans "kawaii desu!" but it is cosmetic and it could be worse we could have poppy with some toast in her mouth right lol

Meep Man1 votes

It kind of is Poppy's personality now. An unsure hero that doubts herself, but is still determined enough to continue on and fulfill her duty for this world and her home. She is also a yordle, so this translates to some to her being, as they say, cute.

(By the way, her personality reminds me of just about every average female anime hero, to be honest, which isnt a bad thing at all since we dont have that character yet)

For Carthage1 votes

Well yes, inherently.

So why would she need what is basically a neon sign saying "I am cute. Go 'd'aww'."? She's just inherently cute as a Yordle - there's no reason to use a trope to try and display her in such a light when she is already in that light to begin with.

HentRex3 votes

Well if you noticed this I have to ask. Have you noticed that if you look at Wolf's face from his snout up he looks like a TMNT?(With the actual nostrils looking like a mouth instead)

Also I don't mind the fang, they are slowly giving all of the yordles fangs it seems.

Poppy has literally never been like that. It's a forced aspect on her.

None of the yordles started off looking "furry". They all looked more like Gnomes, Pygmies, Leprechauns or what have you. That said I wouldn't mind her having more of a scowl look in the eyes. So she seemed a bit more gruff.

For Carthage2 votes

Again, it is not the pair of fangs that is an issue - the singular, protruding fang is a trope in animation that came from Japanese animation that tends to denote a sense of "cuteness" or "cattiness" not just in appearance but in behavior and action. It's just not a look that reflects Poppy's personality.

HentRex1 votes

I'd reply by asking, " Have you never seen a cute tomboy?" There are plenty of girls who are gruff, bad asses, who don't take shit from no one and are still cute. So like how you started off I'll say, again the cute factor doesn't bother me, it's the doe in the headlight stare that does. They might have been trying for a stern look I don't know, the expression to me feels a bit off, not the tooth.

IcyPepper2 votes

Because LoL never takes any inspiration from anime, amiright?

Like a certain Star Guardian, eh?

For Carthage2 votes

This comment has single-handedly convinced me that nobody on these boards even bother to read the full post before letting their fingers fly...

Jeddy0172 votes

"FIERY SPIRIT OF THE YORDLE INFERNO!!!"

IcyPepper1 votes

"BELIEVE IN THE YORDLE THAT BELIEVES IN YOU"

MasqureMan2 votes

All of her splash arts show a single fang, but I like it. It's cute and it's defining.

DrCyanide2 votes

It's a trait that has been pushed forward for the Yordles as a race, likely as part of the Yordle Unification Project (think that's the name)

Lulu has it: http://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/img/champion/loading/Lulu_3.jpg http://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/img/champion/loading/Lulu_4.jpg

Rumble has it: http://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/img/champion/loading/Rumble_0.jpg

Gnar has it: http://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/img/champion/loading/Gnar_2.jpg

Tristana's isn't as pronounced (as you said, it can be miss-interpreted for a chipped tooth), but it's also there: http://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/img/champion/loading/Tristana_0.jpg http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-dwtTAzvX9MA/VkKiu1PH5jI/AAAAAAAAIKg/jesNWWVcUYU/s1600/Tristana_10.jpg

The point: The half-human, half-animal people draw some inspiration from other half-human, half-animal people represented other places. Cat-people have this, Vampires have this, and now Yordles join the list.

For Carthage2 votes

It's not the fact they have fangs for the umpteenth time - it's that it's a single fang. There's no pairing to it anywhere. It's not because her head is turned like Rumble's and Dragon Tamer Lulu's, it's not because she's smirking like Gnar - she clearly does not have a second fang. Both of Tristana's splashes have the second fang added no matter how small it would be because, Winter Wonder Lulu has her head facing the player enough for you to see the second fang - Poppy simply does not, anywhere, show even a single sign of the second one, nor that she ever had a second one.

It's a cliche trope meant to make her seem cuter when that isn't her character at all.

Z Statistic3 votes

That's kind of your opinion man.

Making her the tough cutie is a pretty good call in my book.

DrCyanide1 votes

Not a Yordle.

For Carthage1 votes

And also has both fangs, unless we're thinking that his teeth suddenly slope down on the right side while sloping up on the left (his left and right, not ours).

Dreamspitter1 votes

{quoted}

It's a trait that has been pushed forward for the Yordles as a race, likely as part of the Yordle Unification Project (think that's the name)

Lulu has it: http://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/img/champion/loading/Lulu_3.jpg http://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/img/champion/loading/Lulu_4.jpg

Rumble has it: http://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/img/champion/loading/Rumble_0.jpg

Gnar has it: http://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/img/champion/loading/Gnar_2.jpg

Tristana's isn't as pronounced (as you said, it can be miss-interpreted for a chipped tooth), but it's also there: http://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/img/champion/loading/Tristana_0.jpg http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-dwtTAzvX9MA/VkKiu1PH5jI/AAAAAAAAIKg/jesNWWVcUYU/s1600/Tristana_10.jpg

The point: The half-human, half-animal people draw some inspiration from other half-human, half-animal people represented other places. Cat-people have this, Vampires have this, and now Yordles join the list.

Meanwhile ziggs has no fangs, just oddly square teeth.

Ralanr1 votes

We don't talk about the bomb happy nutcase.

Dreamspitter1 votes

{quoted}

We don't talk about the bomb happy nutcase.

Jinx xZiggs

Jeddy0172 votes

Well,okay.........that's interesting...........wait,is that it?Oh,well then.You have fun with that nitpick.

Starkiller X512 votes

well you havent played new poppy yet then i can tell cause theyve basically turned her into that kind of character so yes, it fits the character fine....

"Anybody with a decent amount of respect to character would mark it down as blasphemy to her name." [slayer-jinx-unamused]

seriously dude....anyone thats that obsessed with the tiniest detail of a character needs to get a life....and this is coming from a dude with over 1600 hours on league

its a single fang that an artist thought would add a bit more to the new personality of poppy....or just thought it be cute to have on her.

get...the fuck....over it

For Carthage2 votes

Modesty and clever language is considered a solely cute and catty personality? Oh?

It took me literally the span of 2 seconds to realize that the white spot I saw on Poppy was a tooth. The "tiniest detail" stuck out to me immediately. I really put damn near no effort into looking, and that's because I don't use my glasses like I ought to or it really would not have taken any effort at all.

You really seem to have far more issues with your life if you literally found yourself using your time just to borderline rage-post on a thread you apparently didn't care much about to begin with since it's, again, "The tiniest detail" that clearly wouldn't matter if it was gone then, correct?

If you're still finding yourself willing to put up your fists and box it out, then here's the thing:

In-game over the rest of the time playing the game, I will have to look at the picture and all of its associated splash-arts hundreds more times. If it's going to annoy me each and every single time I see it because I am well aware it's there and at this point it's pretty difficult not to see, why wouldn't I throw out a bit of time I would spend on the game to give my opinion on it? Even if it's the smallest chance that it'd change, it's still a chance. And what am I losing from this? Some playing time? Okay, still have time for work and other things when they come about.

So... what life, exactly, am I sacrificing by being here?

SpecterVonBaren1 votes

It's actually because of an actual condition that causes a person to have abnormally long eye-teeth. It's apparently more common in Japan so that's why we see it in anime so much. It's not, "Let's make this person look like a cat because a cat is cute" it's "This person has fangs, they kinda look like a cat, how cute".

It's not meant to signify cats specifically, its more to denote a feral or rough or crude character that is also cute at the same time. So, rough exterior but a kind person. Naturally this can differ depending on the character (like characters that are demons or animal spirits or cat girls like you said), but in the context of a person just having a fang, this is what it's usually used to signify.

For Carthage2 votes

That's actually just called macrodontia and is relatively common everywhere - however, it's more common to have the teeth on both sides be enlarged rather than one single tooth, to the point that the most notable occurrence of this is associated with that side of the head also being slightly larger as well. None have the canine teeth actively protruding out of their mouths - the look really is just associated with vampires, cats and the such. The placement of it in humans is due to the range of appearance of these teeth from one person to another - one can have rather sharp and pointed eye teeth while others can have perfectly flat teeth. Having one and the other at the same time doesn't happen because that would literally require two entirely different genes and would mean that you have much bigger problems afoot.

As for what it's used to signify, I have seen it signify this, but not in how you would intend it - a lot of the times the single tooth is shown during moments of "bliss" (which really is just the typical over-exaggeration of emotion extremely common in anime), though sometimes it is just shown on their normal face. It's meant to be a cat-like feature - I'm absolutely certain. I had to write a few research papers on Japan, and their fixation with cats is... odd even to me. And I very much like cats.

Meep Man1 votes

This isn't originally from anime. This was used in a lot of older cartoons to establish a pure, kind of dumb childish character. A missing tooth, larger teeth, a singular tooth sticking out. It was used to show off a pure, childish character unless they were evil.

For Carthage1 votes

Then wouldn't that raise a whole new question of whether or not Poppy's childish then?

BastionKross1 votes

OH! I'm so glad that's a tooth.

I thought it was a cold sore...

LordGeovanni1 votes

snaggle toothing isnt soley anime and for not likeing anime you know alot where it comes from

For Carthage1 votes

Snaggletoothing in this particular sense is almost strictly Japanese influenced - generally in Western society a snaggletooth is either associated with a decidedly "ugly" person or is used for children, most often in the form of buckteeth (it's also had racist uses in the past in this way, but such practices are generally abandoned other than on shows intentionally attempting to replicate the trope).

Secondly, it's because I've had an adversity to Japanese culture and I never knew why I didn't like it much, so I did research on them to see if maybe I was just misinformed or if I was ignorant of something. Since I was doing research on Japanese culture anyway, I used it as a research topic for a couple classes.

Turns out I just don't like their media or art much. Their philosophy is actually rather nice, though, and as culturally uptight as they are, they do act very polite to your face at least, even more so than the majority of other cultures (not to your face, they're like any other culture, honestly). That last part I only know from the two Japanese foreign exchange students I hung out with Sophomore year. One was genuinely nice. Other, erm... kind of a gossipy dick.

LordGeovanni1 votes

while mostly true snaggle tooth is also synonymous with biting your lips in the west which is an effort to increase attractiveness by feigning innocence

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