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@Riot So,is pyke crazy or just used by some force ?

ZΔUN·6/3/2018, 8:55:21 AM·11 votes·15,953 views

Hello,even with all the lore,both audio,video and written,all we knows it that Pyke was indeed not revived by the black mist or Nagakabouros,but we still got no solid indication to what it really is.

My most probable theory is that he was actually revived by the same jaullfish species that he "was haunting" altrhough it is also hinted that he never really used to hunt on The Terror,so another shade is added into this already shady backstory,this was most probably intended from Riot but even if i was strongly hating this character from a gameplay perspective at reveal and launch,his lore keeps me guessing,and his actually quite well written.

We also knows that his list keeps getting names on it,even after seemingly killing all the crew of The Terror,has seen in the "THEN,TEETH" story about this captain,Beke Nidd,who crossed the path of Pyke and his list.

From this we can assume that either The Terror actually existed,that his mind is deeply broken and created all this story so that he could be a "vengeful wrath" with an actual reason to do so or Pyke is just being fooled by the same force that gave him powers and his immortality/New un-life.

He also seems to strongly believe that the "Swimming City" actually exist,wich is suuuper cool from my point of view,a city in the depths where otherworldy beings live,such as ghosts of the drowned ones,wich is why they named the Bilgewater event this way in my mind even if Diana and Vlad are actually just skins of another plane of the same lore (See skins lore)

What really pains me is that we don't know exactly if Pyke is just crazy about the fact his crew actually existed and betrayed him,hence the powers the entities gave him,or his he just broken deep inside(wich makes sense,he's dead,he drowned and he was physically and probably mentally pressed by the pression of the depth),and i'd love to know a bit more about the "swimming city" aswell,this is too much of a gold mine not to dive deeper into it's lore,if there is one !

Is there any tidbit of lore,informations,conceptual developement things you could share with me ?

Thanks for reading ! Pyke

Edit: I'm also failry sure the swimming city actually exist,and it is there that Pyke actually came back to life with powers,so this is probably linked to something,but i'd like to know if this is to the jaullfishes,or anything else really. I mean,alot of pyke's quotes are pointed toward the inhabitants of the swimming city,he also quotes that the same fishes he was told to kill would tell him to kill captains back,that leviathans can learn,that he have seen what lurks below: "lots of eyes".. So yeah,the swimming city is most probably the city of levianthans with immense powers,and also drowned people i would guess.

37 Comments

RiotFauxSchizzle6/3/2018, 9:26:46 AM13 votes

YES! The Swimming City is not a figment of Pyke's imagination.

However, I'm not sure Pyke being crazy and being used by some force are mutually exclusive. In fact, one is the result of the other, especially when a death and resurrection is tossed in the mix... can do some messed up things to the mind.

What I loved about working on Pyke is that he cares little about the origin of his powers. He doesn't really question them at all.

Also: you're picking up on a LOT of the hints in Pyke's VO/Color/Bio and connecting the dots. Nice work :)

Sancre6/3/2018, 12:45:50 PM4 votes

The concept of the Swimming city caught my attention quite early, and i would love to get some more info about it, as it would also reveal what's exactly behind Pyke

I have some theories about it, but i can't quite chose one. The most likelly instance of the swimming city, at least for me, would be the darkness that no light could get through, the one that dragged down Nautilus, and transformed him in what he is, but also, there is this quote

"There's no sunken cities, just the swimming one."

The name itself makes me think that what the swimming city is, is an eldrich leviathan god, a being that devours the souls of the drowned, a monster made of the darkness that you can only find in the depths, that grows stronger with every soul that drowns and enter in its domains, having had to be sealed by Nagakabouros itself in order for the cycle of reincarnation to keep going long ago.

If this was to be the case, Pyke would only be one of the countless souls that this monstruosity claimed, but was given a second chance at "life" by this being, given the duty of bringing new souls for his lord to feast upon.

Eldrich entities works in ways that we can't even imagine, and sometimes do things that would seem weird for us, like usually happens in lovecraftian literature. This dark being seems to use its power to fuel Pyke's vengeance, not by directly telling him who to kill, but with subtlety, both altering his memory and the list itself, that is probably incredibly important for him, to achieve more inhabitants for the swimming city

calibergunsaint6/3/2018, 11:36:03 AM3 votes

This is an intresting theory, I would actually love to see another part of the world expanding, not new lands but rather new underwater lanes, with a new faction entering the world. I actually had another theory, that Pyke was actually revived, or rather given the power to survive being eaten and drowned, by the Iceborn. We know he's actually half Frejlord, so maybe he has Iceborn blood, which made him outlive the incindent and get his powers from their ghosts, the blue lights he sees in the jaull's mouth. Iceborn are known to have near immortal like lifespam and control of ice magic (his powers can be a variation of ice magic) Also, he has a lot of lines refering to something ancient that he's a part of, like :"we are old blood"- not they, we. Moreover, he has a line for Ashe, and Ashe only- "Hah, warmother means captain"- How does he know it? his father could have told him... or the voices of the Iceborn. And, why Ashe? If he wants to kill people who betrayed other people, why not Lissandra? Because he serves Lissandra, as a new Iceborn. Even more then that, I theorized that the Swimming city might be an ancient structure or burial place of the Iceborn and The Frozen Watchers, or a breaching point of the void (as we know the Watchers originated from the void), like the one in Nami's comic. The swimming city is an actual swimming city, a combinition of parts of cities that were sunken by the void and spitten out in the breaching point. It also marks one of his lines more-" No one swims in the same waters as me."- he swims in other waters, deeper and stranger of the world we know.... In the swimming city. Check my post about this, I think you'll like it and get a lot more lines that can be connected to your theory.

iGaveUpAtLast6/3/2018, 9:54:45 PM1 votes

The real question is, did Fizz kill Pyke with his ult? [sg-lulu]