Shouldn’t Illaoi be able to kill Aatrox with the Test of Nagakabouros?

Lady Faceless·6/28/2018, 2:01:35 PM·29 votes·13,706 views

So, few days ago we finally got the Aatrox Lore and learned that he despites his existence and wants to end it but found no way to do it. He is stuck in a prison which denies him the ability to die. As long his soul is bound to the sword, he can’t stop existing.

But we do have a champion which can pull out the soul of his body – Illaoi. When she does the Test of Nagakabouros, she pulls out the soul of the person and the person has to fight so they don’t lose the battle. If they lose, the person dies.

Illaoi has various quotes in her VO in which she states that she dislikes Ascended since they are cheating death. WAAARGHbobo did mentioned that cheating death is an autofail for the Test.

In the end Darkins are still Ascended. In combination to the autofail mentioned above, Aatrox is caught in a behavior which would make him unable to pass that Test anyway.

So, if Illaoi actually is able to pull out Aatrox’ soul out of the weapon, she should be able to actually kill him and give him his death he wishes for. The question would be that is more powerful: Illaoi’s God or the magic of an Aspect?

Edit: Someone posted my question on the Aatrox AMA and WAAARGHbobo responded.

I think it's possible Illaoi's god could free/kill Aatrox's human soul and allow that soul to return to the cosmos. But it's complicated because the celestial concept Aatrox merged with and gained his ascended power from -- has been trapped/deleted. Literally the ideal/idea he represented ceased to exist when he was trapped. Human's no longer could even have the thought/idea he was the avatar of.

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Velzard of Koz6/28/2018, 9:03:06 PM20 votes

She tried that once but then it turned out Aatrox doesn't actually want to die and only seeks attention. True story.

BobaFlautist6/28/2018, 8:50:17 PM9 votes

My guess would be that she kills him and destroys his soul, but the fragments of his soul get sucked to the sword and slowly, painfully reassembled as he revives.

Nagakabouros easily has the raw power to crush Aatrox's soul into a fine, dispersed powder, but unless he's specifically unbound from the sword I imagine he just gets wrenched back to life, no matter how hard he's hit - and ritual soul-magic isn't really Illaoi's thing, she just uses souls to measure people.

statelesskiller6/28/2018, 6:55:08 PM8 votes

well i think we are going to disagree on the idea that he would fail the test (excluding the auto fail of him "cheating death" which i could debate as well but whatever) he IS going after a goal with all his heart would that still be a fail if it happens that goal is to die?

breakordoom4446/28/2018, 3:14:28 PM4 votes

illaoi pulls out part of the soul, if she could pull out the entire soul, wouldn't champions just die?

and alot of shadow lsle champions could apply to the list of "one shotted"

mrmeddyman6/29/2018, 1:01:59 AM3 votes

The paradox being that Aatrox is so committed to his own death (to the point of trying to end the world) that he would probably pass the test

VelvetCrotch6/28/2018, 5:30:48 PM2 votes

awesome thought, great thread, upvote earned!

Neamean6/28/2018, 6:24:08 PM1 votes

I think it is two different type of cheating death. The auto fail one implied shadow isle style death where you die but won't rest but with ascended they are not dead so it isn't an auto fail because they are still living.

I think it is more undead equal instant fail and immortality is doable.

FilDaFunk6/28/2018, 9:43:46 PM1 votes

Is she powerful enough to overcome the trap within the weapons?

Chromatic Eagle6/29/2018, 3:46:08 PM1 votes

Someone asked this in an ama. It’s possible, but complicated due to his celestial magic or something. I’m going off memory here.

Game girl 16/28/2018, 8:32:38 PM1 votes

I wonder how the power levels of Nagakabouros and the ascended compare. Is it possible, for instance, that Nagakabouros cannot even test an ascended, as they are pretty much considered gods in their own right.

NA Darklarik7/1/2018, 12:25:08 AM1 votes

This is asuming she has the power to pull his soul out. She is just a vessel for Nagakebourous, Vessels have limits. Would she be able to channel the necessary power needed to pull Aatrox's soul out of his misshapen body and the forces keeping it together?

I highly doubt it. Nagakebouros might be godly powerful, but she isnt.

HalcyonDweller6/28/2018, 8:40:06 PM1 votes

These are all very good questions, curse you for adding such a complex question to the ever-churning cauldron of thoughts roiling around my head!

(I'm joking about cursing, this is a great thread. Have my upvote and a bump +1)