Will it ever be explained why the Snake Statue turns you into a powerful snake human as a "Curse".

Knalxz·May 8, 2016·9 votes·1,993 views

Because if you ask me, it seems like that curse has more plus then minus. When I think curses I think of something like a rain cloud over your head for the rest of your life, or never being able to everything tasting like cauliflower, not giving them mystical snake powers.

Would you really refuse The Curse of if it made you irresistibly beautiful but your arm are made of gems?

Really seems like a minor thing that you'd get over after a moment of clarity.

58 Comments

GreenLoreMay 8, 20169 votes

Honestly curses often go in both ways. Giving you something that can be quite awesome,but in exchange for something else.

Cassiopeia lost her beauty,which was actually quite important to her. She is basically a seductress who is now forced to be a mage,because she can't seduce anyone anymore.

And overall we don't know much about her curse,her selection quote "There is no antidote for me." sounds like her curse might do even worse things to her over time(maybe turning her into a full snake,or outright killing her)

FasmodeyMay 8, 20166 votes

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Honestly curses often go in both ways. Giving you something that can be quite awesome,but in exchange for something else.

Cassiopeia lost her beauty,which was actually quite important to her. She is basically a seductress who is now forced to be a mage,because she can't seduce anyone anymore.

And overall we don't know much about her curse,her selection quote "There is no antidote for me." sounds like her curse might do even worse things to her over time(maybe turning her into a full snake,or outright killing her)

I think this quote is about how much evil she can be. If she is about the get you, you have no way to escape from her. That's what she is trying to say I think.

GreenLoreMay 8, 20162 votes

Thats definetly possible.

In the end we'll have to wait until she gets an updated lore,which will likely only happen if they update some noxus lores in general(which sadly is kinda unlikely to happen this year)

Pierce The VealMay 9, 20161 votes

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I think this quote is about how much evil she can be. If she is about the get you, you have no way to escape from her. That's what she is trying to say I think.

More like she's saying her venom is incurable.

AutomatisMay 9, 20165 votes

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I think this quote is about how much evil she can be. If she is about the get you, you have no way to escape from her. That's what she is trying to say I think.

Its a double entendre

KnalxzMay 8, 20163 votes

I could see that but she doesn't really seem to be phased by the change in career path.

http://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/img/champion/splash/Cassiopeia_0.jpg

She really looks like she's into being a snake, and as a seductress I think the she'd see the new form as a type of challenge and it looks like she accepted it.

http://lolwp.com/wp-content/uploads/Cassiopeia_Splash_0.jpg

Also what Fasmodey said about her selection quote.

IcyPepperMay 9, 201610 votes

because she can't seduce anyone anymore.

Not with that attitude.

Wind WhistlerMay 10, 20161 votes

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And overall we don't know much about her curse,her selection quote "There is no antidote for me." sounds like her curse might do even worse things to her over time(maybe turning her into a full snake,or outright killing her)

Actually, I'm pretty sure she just says "There is no antidote." Which is probably her talking about her poison.

GreenLoreMay 10, 20161 votes

Nope,she says: "There is no antidote for me."

Just look at her quotes on the wiki,which lists all of them. http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Cassiopeia

SaltyToplaneGoatMay 8, 20166 votes

It's a curse because in ancient Shurima this probably meant lifelong exile and loneliness.

It's like a medival branding. It's a mark that won't go away, tells everyone that you did something horrible, and probably allows everyone to deny you help or even kill you.

KnalxzMay 8, 20166 votes

I could see that but it'd be like after you were branded they gave you a cannon for an arm cyborg style.

CetriMay 8, 20165 votes

Well, in ancient Shurima at least, it would be an easy way for people to identify thieves/graverobbers at a glance, causing one to become an outcast and make it easy to determine guilt.

KnalxzMay 9, 20162 votes

It can't of been that well known if Cassio was a leading researcher of Shurima for Noxus and had no clue of the curses existence.

Vistha KaiMay 8, 20164 votes

I suppose in a world without the Internet there aren't many lady-snake lovers, so it counts as a curse for seducers like Cassie.

http://pa1.narvii.com/5835/a09f0c85b6414686f7bcb6342755483256513faa_hq.gif

WyrmbladeMay 8, 20164 votes

She basically got ascended for free.

KnalxzMay 9, 20162 votes

RIGHT!

FasmodeyMay 9, 20161 votes

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She basically got ascended for free.

She can't deal with any Ascended. She is super-human but probably weak as fuck compare to Azir.

MimaropaMay 11, 20161 votes

How? She can make toxic miasmas and turn people into stone with her gaze. how is that weak?

FasmodeyMay 11, 20161 votes

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How? She can make toxic miasmas and turn people into stone with her gaze. how is that weak?

She is weak compare to Ascendants, pretty powerful compare to humans, yordles, poros etc.

BattleBoarMay 8, 20163 votes

Some reason why being bite by a wolf and becoming a werewolf is seen as a curse. Another one is being curse to become a undead monster. A normal person see this thing as a curse why some other see as a blessing.

Warlord DienekesMay 9, 20162 votes

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Some reason why being bite by a wolf and becoming a werewolf is seen as a curse. Another one is being curse to become a undead monster. A normal person see this thing as a curse why some other see as a blessing.

Well the werewolf of lore wasn't originally a curse. It was people choosing to destroy and kill because they were devil worshippers (well one of the many many wolf-man legends anyway) as to the modern interpretation when it is seen as a curse it usually is not because the individual sometimes gains super strength and fur but because they go completely out of their mind and murder anyone close to them.

Cass had neither of those problems. She's just now a super powered snake woman.

BattleBoarMay 9, 20161 votes

Well as you said there are "one of the many many wolf-man legends" . So some of those where curse base.

As for the modern one. They normal go out of their mind or become nothing more then a beast do to weak of will or mind. They simple cant hand or warp their mind around what happen to their body. Cass would likely be strong enough to not go crazy from such changes.

Warlord DienekesMay 9, 20163 votes

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Well as you said there are "one of the many many wolf-man legends" . So some of those where curse base.

As for the modern one. They normal go out of their mind or become nothing more then a beast do to weak of will or mind. They simple cant hand or warp their mind around what happen to their body. Cass would likely be strong enough to not go crazy from such changes.

Yes the ones that show lycanthropy as a curse don't give them powers though. The ancient Greeks had a few people punished and turned into wolves not super strong wolves not special wolves just normal wolves. Who were often then hunted and killed by their family because the Ancient Greeks loved dramatic irony like that.

Medieval lycanthropes were the devil worshippers (basically a twisting of pagan notions of the importance of wolves).

The modern werewolf was literally made in the movies The Wolf Man and Werewolf of London. There is no mention of anyone with suitable will having control. In fact the protagonist of Werewolf of London was a genius scientist. But that's because the lycanthropy was portrayed as an actual curse. Not a really awesome thing like Cass is.

BattleBoarMay 9, 20161 votes

Yes it does. If I could smell as good as a wolf or run as fast as one or the many other thing that wolfs can do better then a human. I will count that as a supper power.

As for modern werewolfs. I'm think more like the movies Van Helsing.

Any way it look like we are just not going to agree . So you see the Lore your way and I see it my way.It just that simple.

Warlord DienekesMay 9, 20163 votes

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Yes it does. If I could smell as good as a wolf or run as fast as one or the many other thing that wolfs can do better then a human. I will count that as a supper power.

As for modern werewolfs. I'm think more like the movies Van Helsing.

Any way it look like we are just not going to agree . So you see the Lore your way and I see it my way.It just that simple.

The cursed ones, the problems of being a wolf were to be hunted down and only using those powers to murder innocents (usually the victims own family) because they were actually curses.

Van Helsing (and even worse what modern folk have done to vampires) neutered the horror aspects of each of the creatures in the stories. When a curse doesn't actually hinder you it's not a curse.

Reminds me of Clash of Titans movie (it was crap, I know, but not much worse than Van Helsing) where a character says they were cursed with agelessness, and another character points out "that's not a curse."

If the curse gives you powers, benefits, without real drawbacks that's not a curse. It's the opposite of a curse. I'd call that a magical reword if anything. I mean really, she was given super powers and turned into an animal totem. That's exactly what Azir, Nasus, and Renekton had happen to them, but that was never thought of as a curse.

DisulfiramMay 8, 20162 votes

It's a curse because you can no longer have sex. Ever. Because your lower half is a snake.

[zombie-nunu-tears]

You can lay eggs though...

WyrmbladeMay 8, 20165 votes

My search history looks weird now.

ArakadiaMay 9, 20162 votes

Ebonmaw DragonMay 8, 20162 votes

Maybe... she had poison powers before the curse?

KnalxzMay 9, 20161 votes

Being a mage seems counter intuitive to her goals of being a seductress for Noxus and treasure hunting. it also makes it weird why she'd ever hire Sivir instead of just taking her sword.

Ebonmaw DragonMay 9, 20161 votes

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Being a mage seems counter intuitive to her goals of being a seductress for Noxus and treasure hunting. it also makes it weird why she'd ever hire Sivir instead of just taking her sword.

Why? She can be a seductress mage (like Ahri ) of Noxus that wanted the treasures of the Shuriman Emperors. And maybe she couldnt kill Sivir with magic thanks to her magical shield that counters magic? Or maybe, she needed her to open the tomb... In fact, with all those tramps in the tomb, maybe she tought that Sivir was going to die with the tramps.

I mean, it makes more sense than thinking that the tramp gave her magical powers.

HildebrandMay 9, 20162 votes

You are making the assumption that a highborn Noxian Lady was weaker before. I mean, she survived in that enviornment, she must have had some skills.

KnalxzMay 9, 20161 votes

She didn't have any magical or physical skills besides her beauty, Kat constantly talked about this. There are more ways to power then being powerful.

HildebrandMay 9, 20161 votes

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She didn't have any magical or physical skills besides her beauty, Kat constantly talked about this. There are more ways to power then being powerful.

Kat was also known to disdain high Noxus in general, despite having some of the strongest in noxus gathered there.

You really think someone who manipulates the likes of Darius, Swain, and LeBlanc would last long without a modicum of personal power? That doesn't seem the teeniest bit absurd to you?

KnalxzMay 9, 20161 votes

Not at all, she was of Noble Birth but that doesn't mean she was anywhere near as important as other members in her family. She was the youngest and did what she wanted, another thing Kat talked about why she hated her sister for.

MasqureManMay 11, 20162 votes

I like the sexuality post that someone made on analyzing sexuality and how well it fits/explains League's females. There, I think it was suggested that Cassiopeia's former occupations and passion as a seductress has been denied her by her new form that most will find repulsive, so she compensates by being overly sexual in her gestures and personality even though she knows her advances and offers won't be accepted. I like this semi-tragic/compulsive version of her.

The "there's no antidote for me" line most likely is both meaning her actual poison and her curse not being reversible.

And weighing in on if it's actually a curse or not: Yes, because she can no longer do what she was used to doing in seducing people (though that doesn't stop her from trying). And manipulating isn't so easy anymore either (you hear her story, you see she's a snake, etc.). But she can now do the good ol' Noxian thing and just straight up destroy people physically, so it works out. But i think deep down she won't able to get over the fact that people find her repulsive, a part of herself she was able to hide before.

KnalxzMay 13, 20161 votes

But what you're missing isn't that the post is exclusive to Cassio. If this happened to anyone else like a treasure seeker, the'd be more then happy to have it.

Governments would send their troops there to be turned into powerful snake men.

Her curse is more of an inconvenience then anything else. If someone doesn't find her attractive, she could kill or force them to...as is the Noxian way.

MasqureManMay 14, 20161 votes

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But what you're missing isn't that the post is exclusive to Cassio. If this happened to anyone else like a treasure seeker, the'd be more then happy to have it.

Governments would send their troops there to be turned into powerful snake men.

Her curse is more of an inconvenience then anything else. If someone doesn't find her attractive, she could kill or force them to...as is the Noxian way.

Cruel people who just want power would be able to deal with it, but someone just after wealth would not be so happy about being a pariah now.

KnalxzMay 16, 20161 votes

Cassio got what she wanted. She seeked Ascension but got a curse that's just as good IMO.

RalanrMay 8, 20161 votes

The loss of working legs might be frustrating to her.

KnalxzMay 9, 20161 votes

Grooming becomes alot easier and she wins all track competitions ever.

runedaraMay 8, 20161 votes

It probably a lonely life after getting turned half snake. And with the powers people may even fear you more and get more isolated.

KnalxzMay 9, 20161 votes

In Noxus fear is an aphrodisiac.

DualShieldsMay 9, 20161 votes

You have to take into account the VANITY of anchient Shurima. Based on what we know, this type of thing WAS branding and exile, much like a mark of cain sort of thing- it protected you, but made you a monster forever. Look at the beings in the deserts of Shurima... you'd need that protection.

VeraskaMay 9, 20161 votes

I wonder if cassiopeia will still be katarinas sister in her lore update, that always seemed kinda weird and tacked on to me

Meep ManMay 9, 20161 votes

Think of what it would do to you outside of combat purposes.

Wind WhistlerMay 10, 20161 votes

Nasus : The venom sears her flesh like acid.

I'm pretty sure I wouldn't want to be cursed if it meant having that happen to me.

HelmightMay 10, 20161 votes

She can't wear her nice shoes anymore though. That's enough of a curse for a seductress like Cass :P

BLU MedicMay 10, 20161 votes

It may be awesome power-wise, but for someone who's always prided themselves on being professionally really, really, really good-looking, it's a horrible, agonizing thing to wake up and find that they're now really, really, really ugly.

Of course, Cassiopeia has to adapt, she's a Noxian and she'll lose everything else if she doesn't, so she makes the most of her new form. She probably had to teach herself how to move again.

Lost RMay 11, 20161 votes

Cassiopeia is largely based on the story of Medusa. In Greek Mythology, Medusa was a beautiful maiden until the god Poseidon had sex with her (read: he raped her) in Athena's temple. Athena cursed Medusa so her hair turned to snakes and her face would be so terrible that onlookers would turn to stone. Her blood in some interpretations also turned into snakes.

The sex and rape is gone, but the curse is still there in Cass' backstory. You have the snake motif and you have the stone (her ult "stones" anyone looking in her direction), but it's interpreted just slightly differently from the story of Medusa. Gameplay and story segregation just makes the stone gaze last a second or two in-game, as opposed to, you know, forever, and in effect all the time. Her still looking beautiful, though, that fits quite in line with the kinds of curses you commonly see in mythologies (see: King Midas). She is still the aspiration of suitors everywhere, but to gaze upon her face is to invite death.

That, and human fetishes have mutated and normalized viciously in recent memory.