Prestige skins are a predatory failure.

Naalith·1/10/2019, 7:30:08 PM·108 votes·23,436 views

As most of you probably know, Blood Moon Aatrox just released and Riot has listened to your feedback! Instead of grinding for upwards of 100 frustrating hours where loss streaks set you back on your sluggish grind to unlock Prestige skins and losing all sense of real fun in the game as you try to get tokens, you can just spend $120 every patch to get a shitty chroma! Wowee!

What am I referring to? https://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/features/prestige-points-and-new-prestige-edition-skins

Basically there's one way to get prestige skins and that's to buy overpriced loot boxes. You can't gain enough free Prestige Points in a year to get a Prestige skin, so if you're not willing to shell out money for a single subpar chroma with garbage random rewards, you can't get the limited skin. I'm immeasurably disappointed in Riot, part of the reason you gained a massive following was because you didn't try to cheat customers and now you're just another EA or Activision.

For reference, let me compare apples to apples by looking at SMITE. SMITE is a free to play MOBA like League and is one of the most predatory games on the market. Their big end of year event called The Odyssey happens every year and is basically a multi patch skin event. For buying skins (or emotes, ward skins, loading screen borders, etc.) you gain collection bonuses. The final collection bonus is a tier 5 skin, the equivalent of an Ultimate skin in League which evolves as the game progresses and has some other cool extras like music and an animated loading screen splash art.

To get this skin you would have to spend about $100.

Additionally you get all the cool new skins that add up to it (equivalent of 1350 skins), collection rewards like other exclusive skins, emotes, music, etc., plus EVERY Odyssey item you purchase comes with a loot box that requires no key and gives you yet another permanent cosmetic item.

Riot is absolutely delusional if they think prestige skins are anything other than a predatory low effort money grab. Want a limited skin? Pay up or grind for an entire month of your gaming free time. Unlike SMITE this new line of Prestige point skins have no guaranteed new 1350s, no collection rewards, no alternative way to grind tiers, nothing. You're paying $120 for a skin you'll regret getting and random dogshit from loot boxes, with a high chance you'll get nothing cool from the latter and just reroll 520s.

Riot, stop trying to drive away your community. The game itself has been shit since season 7 and season 9 seems like only a small step back in the right direction. I used to put up with it because the replayability is amazing and even a shit LoL is more fun than most other games, but the patience is running out. Now with overpriced loading screen borders, overpriced gem skins, overpriced ruby chromas, streamer exclusive content, etc., it's not only the game which is broken but the whole ecosystem around it as well.

If you want to make more money, you will from this. Short term. The grinding, the obvious predatory limited shit, and all your other gimmicks will just drive people away long term. This isn't even to mention that your next games will be looked at skeptically like an EA or Activision type game and possibly crash based on reviewer drama as a result.

Quit being scummy Riot. I love your game, I love your company, I want you to survive. Just make the game GOOD again if you want money. I just feel bad for artists and writers who are having their work bastardized for a short term profit which might eventually cause their jobs to be lost.

37 Comments

Weiss Guertena1/10/2019, 11:12:13 PM40 votes

Vote with your wallets on this one, people. They are testing the waters, same as when they started releasing 1350 skins and promising "they won't be a norm". If people will buy it, then Riot will continue selling it. If people wouldn't buy it, then Riot would have to take an alternate approach.

Not to mention they got lazy with this new set. Kai'Sa and Akali at least had some model changes. Aatrox is just a fancy chroma with a 100 bucks price tag attached.

Snarf of thunder1/10/2019, 7:32:51 PM23 votes

Riot is the next EA. Did you know league is now a sport in my P.E class? Everyone calls each other noobs and the bullying is much more serious now.

Resolution1/10/2019, 11:11:08 PM19 votes

I can't wait till lootbox laws pass in the U.S, and Riot stops with this whole milk as much while we can.

mrmeddyman1/10/2019, 8:19:24 PM10 votes

The cool thing about a capitalist society is that if you don't buy it Riot will be forced to not try and sell them

TalontedM71/10/2019, 11:46:20 PM9 votes

Not gonna lie people are really getting burnt out with these prestige skins.

Saelon1/11/2019, 2:27:13 AM9 votes

Are you saying you don't want to spent 100+ dollars on a chroma for a 10 dollar skin? Are you CRAZY? ITS GOLD!

rtbf2256182411/11/2019, 2:51:46 AM8 votes

Do these people actually believe their game is still so much fun that someone would play thousands of hours to get one chroma? That's delusional. Not to mention the skin itself looks nothing like the splash art, like most of their skins. Makes me feel bad for the artists, since they are truly amazing.

Dat Kat1/11/2019, 12:40:52 AM7 votes

I think they fit at first when K/DA made their debut, it kinda fit the popstar universe . . . but applying it to other themes consistently random is kinda a huge turnoff and a downgrade to their value.

13blackcats1/11/2019, 10:00:16 AM4 votes

The intent is to provide players with a sense of pride and accomplishment for unlocking different heroes.

As for cost, we selected initial values based upon data from the Open Beta and other adjustments made to milestone rewards before launch. Among other things, we're looking at average per-player credit earn rates on a daily basis, and we'll be making constant adjustments to ensure that players have challenges that are compelling, rewarding, and of course attainable via gameplay.

We appreciate the candid feedback, and the passion the community has put forth around the current topics here on Reddit, our forums and across numerous social media outlets.

Our team will continue to make changes and monitor community feedback and update everyone as soon and as often as we can.

[slayer-jinx-wink]

Biscuit Bite1/11/2019, 4:22:14 AM2 votes

Not to mention those good for nothing watch missions. HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE GAME!!!!!!!!!

BlackEtherian1/11/2019, 3:29:03 PM2 votes

Honestly, 120 USD for a "golden" skin/item is normal, in Dota 2, which has an open market system, Crimson and Golden items go for upwards of 200 dollars. The skin is not a necessity, although I do understand your concern for the free way to obtain it.

DracosKasu1/11/2019, 3:49:11 PM2 votes

The problem is it work because I see many people with them. If you want it to go away stop buying it.

sphinxthelion71/12/2019, 5:54:17 AM2 votes

If Riot wants to make more money they need to fix their game so that they stop bleeding players.

VelvetCrotch1/13/2019, 10:52:43 PM1 votes

Gem skins should be looked at too.

With prestige and gem skins riot is like: hmm let’s build big house! - and during building they stop and build another one...

Meredith Stout1/11/2019, 3:55:57 PM1 votes

Doubt they will listen to this. They know what they are doing and they are consciously doing it.

I would like to add that this "money-grabbing" shit started when they released emotes - just another way to make quick buck on people who want to have it all.

Then there were passes for events, which at first were good for price.

But now? Every skin released is at least 1350RP and comes with chromas, icons and even fucking wards.

New money-grabbing shit are "prestige" skins - also first one (Kai'Sa) was grinding skin, came also with price but nothing compared to newly relased prestige Aatrox

TonyTonyMordecai1/11/2019, 4:41:40 PM1 votes

Sometimes those skins in The Odyssey are equivalent to 1820 skins because they change the voicelines on top of adding a voice filter.

jama6551/11/2019, 5:56:11 PM1 votes

Wait you can buy loading screen borders?

StarGuardianWeeb1/11/2019, 4:41:44 AM1 votes

Then you just don't buy the chest things and when Riot sees that the chests still don't sell they start offering them through things like missions, events, etc. It says in the very article you yourself linked that blood moon aatrox is the first of what's going to be a bunch of planned skins for this year.

But ok

Meritas1/11/2019, 12:01:18 AM1 votes

Why are you getting mad? If you are right and the price is too high, Riot will sell nil and they will have to change their practices. If you're not, then can you blame them for doing something that works? Just vote with your wallet to prove your point.

It's pretty funny though how Riot would lose almost nothing even if they do not sell a single Prestige Skin 2019, as they are simply gold Chromas for other skins that are monetized independently.

SpecterVonBaren1/16/2019, 4:41:34 AM1 votes

Predatory, sure, but how do you know it's a failure yet?