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Where's the last Darkin?

TheWildPenguin··4 votes·4,591 views

Just a small theory with barely any evidence - could Vladimir be the host of the last darkin? In his lore, its said there was a legend of him being traded to the Darkin as hostage. Later on he "betrayed" them and left, after learning blood magic. Its a legend so its natural that there are holes, but relying on it - how could a mortal escape the darkin? Ascended god-warriors, probably some of the strongest beings in runeterra, and he just betrayed them and left to live peacefully in noxus? Why would the darkin be interested in him in the first place? I was thinking, maybe one of the darkin foresaw their upcoming imprisonment and decided to hide / possess this new disciple which he deemed strong enough (which is why he accepted this hostage in the first place). This could be the source of Vladimir's great blood magic and the reason he could "simply leave" the darkin at all. It could be that its not a mortal betraying the darkin, but one of the darkin betraying the others and leaving to hide. This could also explain why the last darkin weapon was not found or spoken of yet. There simply isnt one, since the last darkin was never imprisoned. Basically just a thought, but I really hope its true [vlad-salute]

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The Iceborn3 votes

Ask Lissandra, somehow her dynasty survived while some of the darkin ravaged across the whole freljord and destroyed everything but her home.

Brutalitops012 votes

We don't know much about the 2 Darkin that aren't on the rift yet. We know for sure that one of them is female and beyond that, I don't know exactly. I'm currently brain farting Necrit's videos on YouTube theorizing about the Darkin, but he's a lore enthusiast who has dedicated his YouTube channel into stuff like this. I'd suggest checking him out.

LusterCrown2 votes

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We don't know much about the 2 Darkin that aren't on the rift yet. We know for sure that one of them is female and beyond that, I don't know exactly. I'm currently brain farting Necrit's videos on YouTube theorizing about the Darkin, but he's a lore enthusiast who has dedicated his YouTube channel into stuff like this. I'd suggest checking him out.

Renekton is somehow "Darkin" cus of influence of Xerath turning him "evil" also ther's info about it in his wiki page.

Also I can't belive that Sunborn are stronger than Aspects themselves... like, what Aspect of Sun think about this? Why the Darkin can slay and destroy an Aspect? Riot can simply say : that's how it works, daa... but I'm not buying this... why they can't create Moondisc and made Moonborn? or why the Aspects can't capture Darkin's weapons and inprison 'em in the True Targon?

RyzeTheSmurfMage2 votes

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Renekton is somehow "Darkin" cus of influence of Xerath turning him "evil" also ther's info about it in his wiki page.

Also I can't belive that Sunborn are stronger than Aspects themselves... like, what Aspect of Sun think about this? Why the Darkin can slay and destroy an Aspect?

I'll try to explain that. So the Ascended host had tiers of powerlevel among themselves too depending how perfect one's Ascension would be. The champs we have are all high tier Ascended, with perfect Ascensions, but most of the Ascended aka Sunborn were actually less powerful by a quite significant margin. An Ascended gets all his power directly from his Ascension. Unless there is some special case involved to it, like Xerath, there is no more room for growing in power overall, just getting more experience using what you were given from the start. Meanwhile an Aspect will always be a vessel inhabited by the concept itself, not just the concept giving power to the host and that's all (like the Ascended). It also alters the mind of the host and slowly merges with it, and thus over time, the Aspect becomes more and more powerful as they merge more and more with the concept themselves. A fully grown Aspect like Zoe would have no trouble with most Ascended. Most of our Aspect champions are v young for Aspect standards (ex Taric Diana Leona) and thus are atm weaker than Ascended, but give them a century or 2 and they will beat any Ascended we have rn with the possible exception of Xerath and Azir

Riot can simply say : that's how it works, daa... but I'm not buying this... why they can't create Moondisc and made Moonborn? or why the Aspects can't capture Darkin's weapons and inprison 'em in the True Targon?

I mean....why would they make a Moondisc? They had no reason too, and they may also have chosen Sun because of Shurima's close cultural ties to the Sun.

LusterCrown1 votes

"I mean....why would they make a Moondisc? They had no reason too, and they may also have chosen Sun because of Shurima's close cultural ties to the Sun."

In case of making powerful army that's why or rather I'll do it (if I write fanfic about me in LoL universe) So could you explain me how Azir was resurected without making the ritual of Ascension? In the Azir's video trailer we only see that he just saved Sivir but he was deep beneath the desert but still his body was destroyed by the failed Ascension and ruined Sundisc couldn't gather such power to make him so powerful to bring Shurima lost greatness. I know that I "digging" too much and cling to details and sometimes write from things but I'm so into Runeterra's lore but when I'm talking with my friends about whole LoL stuff they just "Stop talking nonsense!"

RyzeTheSmurfMage1 votes

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"I mean....why would they make a Moondisc? They had no reason too, and they may also have chosen Sun because of Shurima's close cultural ties to the Sun."

In case of making powerful army that's why or rather I'll do it (if I write fanfic about me in LoL universe)

Well that's what you would do but not what Shurima would

So could you explain me how Azir was resurected without making the ritual of Ascension? In the Azir's video trailer we only see that he just saved Sivir but he was deep beneath the desert but still his body was destroyed by the failed Ascension and ruined Sundisc couldn't gather such power to make him so powerful to bring Shurima lost greatness. I know that I "digging" too much and cling to details and sometimes write from things but I'm so into Runeterra's lore but when I'm talking with my friends about whole LoL stuff they just "Stop talking nonsense!"

Azir did get killed, but his Ascension was half-done and apparently the blood of the imperial family is magical in nature which is why Sivir's blood revived him. The Sun Disc most likely has recharged over time since Shurima's fall (it had like 2000 to do it so yeah). That's plenty of time.

GreenLore2 votes

Really doubt that. The darkin were defeated by mortals who received some powerful "tools" from the aspects.

Vlad likely backstabbed his master when he was already badly weakened by other humans.

YDy2ZkRq022 votes

I dont think you're reading Vladimir lore correctly. He never "left" his Darkin. What actually happened was the following:

  • Darkin conquers Vladimir's father kingdom and takes Vladimir as hostage to ensure his father's loyalty.
  • His father betrays the Darkin anyway as he didnt care about Vladimir.
  • The Darkin orders Vladimir to lead his armies, scaking the city and retaking it on the Darkin's name
  • Vladimir govern his father's kingdom on his place, possibly suffering abuse from the Darkin and knowing his inhuman strength, his loyalty is seemlighly assured. On Vladimir own words:

"I was a good and faithful hound on a leash.”

  • Amused by Vladimir's devotion and loyalty, the Darkin teach Vlad blood magic more for fun than anything. Vladimir grew to govern almost as merciless and cruel as the Darkin himself. But considering how the Darkin seemed Vladimir as just another mortal that he could smash whenever he wanted, most of that was made more for fun than anything.
  • After Twilight of the Gods, countless of once slaves unite and march upon the remaining Darkin, with the help of the Aspect of War and the power of Darkin weapons on the hands of mortal heroes. On desesperation the Darkin order Vladimir to lead his armies on his defense, but then Vladimir betrays him, the Darkin's warhost together with some of the other rebel armies fight the Darkin. And then Vladimir lands the killing blow and absorbs part of the Darkin's power though blood magic.

Then later he allies with LB, helps to overthrow Mordekaiser and found Noxus etc etc.

But to clarify this, Vladimir never escaped the Darkin, he killed his master and absorbed his power(which is the source of his great magical power and domain over blood magic, he was extremly weaker than his current form during his mortal life). The next Darkin weapon(which isnt necessarily the last one) not being mentioned yet doesnt really needs an in lore explanation beyond "We didnt reach the point where it's revelant yet" we will eventually get info about it, we just need time. Also Noxus was founded 550 years after the Darkin were defeated.

About why the Darkin would let him govern and lead armies and all, it wasnt because of special interest in Vladimir, the Darkin just thought he was above meral mortal tasks. The Darkin didnt see themselves as kings, they saw themselves as Gods, they didnt conquer nations to govern them, they conquered nations so every mortal there could bow their knees, praise and fear them, simplying serving as tools on their hands. Tasks such as governing and leading armies arent things Gods have to do directly, those are just tasks their subordinates have to do on their name. And also, the Darkins couldnt be everywhere at once, when they were out conquering more nations and fighting other Darkin someone had to be on the nations they had already conquered to make sure those nations wouldnt rebel and would keep suplying the Darkin armies with food and soldiers.

TheWildPenguin1 votes

Oh, guess I got it all wrong. Thanks for the detailed explanation!

TheGreatRasputin1 votes

One thing. It was the Aspect of Twilight who helped seal the Darkin, not the Aspect of War. It's why Aatrox has so many violent lines aimed at Zoe.

YDy2ZkRq021 votes

I know. When I said "help from the Aspect of War" I meant help to actually fight against the Darkin, not to seal them. It's mentioned on Aatrox bio:

It is said that the Aspect of Twilight gave mortals the knowledge to trap the darkin, and **the newly reborn Aspect of War united many in fighting back against them. **

Ashe mage AD1 votes

Nah, it's pretty evident from the lore the Ascended fked each other up *(plus some Zoe shenanigans) then he went his own separate way.

FSRER1 votes

You know who could possibly be a darkin host? Tryndamere. That man simply can not die because of his rage and as far as we know it is not magic or a blessing or anything of the sort so he would make sense if he was a darkin host

Ebonmaw Dragon1 votes

I will say that the last Darkin is in Runeterra, but i COULD be wrong.

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