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Frozen Watchers.

Basaren·2/14/2015, 11:26:05 PM·5 votes·2,930 views

So I know this kind of thing has probably been raised as a question before so bear with me if this is just repeated stuff ok. So I play a lot of aram and I like the idea of the whole "battle each other on a big ass bridge where there was another big battle ages ago" thing, and I also loved the freljord event from a couple of seasons ago. The one thing that I always makes me think is the way Gregor (blue side shopkeeper) talks about the watchers and the huge battle they had. From what we know the watchers were some kind of all powerful race that dwelled in the freljord and eventually gave power to Lissandra, and Avarosa, and other people to make a new group of people called The IceBorn. Next we know that eventually Avarosa assembled an army and rebelled against the watchers eventually overcoming them and throwing them into the abyss. There are also statues around the abyss that resemble Velkoz , now I know Riot previously stated Velkoz Is Not a watcher but maybe there is some form of tie in between him and the watchers. Mostly I just wish we knew more about them and that we had a Watcher champ or some big event based off their return I mean reading through some Gregor quotes I feel like something needs to happen here, I mean just read the big bridge speech.

"Everybody's forgotten who built this bridge and why. Everybody's forgotten the war that gave this place its scars. Everyone, but me. I was there! I saw the battle! I died here, and I never left this place! I was bound here to stand guard and sound my war horn when our enemies ever returned. And now, now the howling grows louder, and I sense something evil stirring in the abyss, my hand reaches for my war horn. This place will soon see a battle again. One that will shape the Freljord for all time. And if the Freljord falls, so too will the rest of the world. Yes, this is more than just a bridge."

This really just makes me feel like a watcher event for their return could be done. Well thanks for reading my long post xD, How do ya'll feel about a watcher event or just more info on them in general.

45 Comments

LANWhale2/15/2015, 12:25:44 AM4 votes

Alot of people are convinced that the Watchers are indeed Void Born, which is fire to think that, but we mustn't just keep are minds close to this one theory. Now on to how you said the statues look like Vel'koz, this is true in many ways, one they have that one singular giant eye, as well it seems to have tentacles. But do not be fooled that just because these tow have similar features they fore they are the same.

Who is not to say that those tentacles are horns? As well what if the giant eye is just a way to show the signal of them being Watchers? But then comes the answer of what are they? Are they human? Honestly, I have literally no where to go with that there is nothing I can give an example to as to what they might be besides Void-born.

That was the case until the Gnar promo.

That promo gave the biggest hint to what the Watchers might be and that Gnar, for some strange reason, may be more than just a link for yordles.

To refresh your mind here, there was one slide in the promo that showed Gnar and his family in the middle of a forest fighting off this thing with a giant singular eye. Sounds familiar right? Well indeed it does, it should really, but then how dose this relate to Gnar? Sure he fought this thing and all but what of it, it was a more simpler time back when Gnar was around. The picture alone isn't enough to prove that Gnar may play a big factor in this, for you see, Gnar drew the pictures ( or so i believe) proving that he can recognize these creatures with ease. To also prove this, at the sight of these things, even a picture, he goes mad and turns to Mega Gnar, which enplanes the scratching on the picture.

So what do we know about Gnar know? He is smart, smart enough to remember something like that and to act on his feelings, sounds extremely helpful to anybody trying to stop the Watchers now a days. But then you have to ask your self, why is Gnar still alive? He must of evolved out it since hes around the modern times now. The answer is simple he was frozen. Frozen by whom you may ask? Anivia, she froze him.

Now lets recap this:

Gnar is smart, he can recognize the paintings of Watchers he made. Not only that but has a built in rage for them. Anivia froze him, reasons why she did this? Unclear. But this was during the time when the uprising of the rebellion.

Now then before I just blow your mind there is one more thing I must offer to add more viability to the reason why Anivia froze him. Anivia isn't somebody to do something without a reason, giving the circumstances of the time, the freezing of Gnar has to be correlated to the Rebellion against Watchers. Now then why is this? Remember Gnar wasn't the only prehistoric yordle out there, there was a civilization of them out there. Considering how modern yordles live now, in a community, so did the the yordles of Gnar's time. What does this mean? It means that once Gnar was attack, the whole community knew, which means they shared his anger and rage towards these things.

Now here is mind blowing thing number one.

Gnar's species fought along side Avarosa. Boom. I'll let that sink in a bit. Now then you ask your self, why would they have to do anything with the rebellion? And I, dear sir, point back to my last argument. The fact that Gnar's race lives in a community is the only reason they need. The moment Gnar was attacked the Watchers, the Watchers angered an entire species. Thus, whether Avarosa meant them to be allies or not doesn't matter, they had a bone to pick and no one was getting in there way.

Alright so that's mind blown number 1, here is 2.

They won that war, remember? That's why there is no more Watchers wondering around. Which means that Gnar's race must have really been the turning tide of this war. So what does Anivia do to ensure they have a back up plan in case the Watchers return. She freezes Gnar. Just Gnar? Maybe, or a whole family, but perhaps she only needs one after seeing how effective a giant army was.

And now for the last and final mind blowing fact.

Gnar was imprisoned in True Ice. What does that have to do with anything? We already know that Anivia uses True Ice in her spells, so what?

Well then I ask you then, how did Gnar get out?

And that's were it hits you! The reason why Gnar's race was such a giant turn around was the fact that they could break True ice. Something that can't melt or be broken. This is why Anivia froze them and how Gnar broke out. how do they do this? Who knows, but it has a connection with the rage gene.

Thanks for taking literally like 10 mins to read this but I do like this theory more than the one that states the Watchers are Void-born. Sorry but i would love to give a td:lr about this but I feel like you should read the reasons, sorry.

Oh yea almost forgot, what do I think are the Watchers? Probably a giant animal, but that's for another time.

Skye reave2/15/2015, 4:29:24 AM3 votes

lissandra is not a member of the watchers but iceborn. Her powers were given to her but she is not one of them.

The Soulforged2/15/2015, 4:20:12 AM2 votes

My own headcannon is that there were a group of guardians like Anivia, but they were corrupted by the void and were turned into the watchers. Edit: Also, the howling abyss is an ancient void gate. Throwing the watchers down into it sent them to the void.

Skye reave2/15/2015, 4:25:44 AM1 votes

on the point about Annivia freezing gnar, is there something riot-based to support this or is it just theory? (just curious) As for gnar's rage gene, we don't know for sure if they all did that. I feel like they don't for some reason and that he was special. Maybe something that doesn't normally show until something insanely traumatic occurs

Necrolegion892/15/2015, 4:26:32 AM1 votes

Personally I would love the watchers to be a different faction from the void.

I personally love how there are all these factions trying to take over Runeterra's magic/runes.

I am a huge scifi geek, and science nerd. I love anything that involves any kind of space travelling. That being said here is what I think of some of these factions:

The Void

    The Void seem to be a genetically modified species whom have acquired or created technology to bend space-time. Every Void-born was created or genetically modified for one singular purpose. My guess is that there is someone or some group controlling this above the Void-born.

    What these masterminds or engineers seem to be doing is finding potential worlds rich with magic to harvest/conquer. Once they find a suitable planet they abduct some of the local species, genetically modify them, brain-wash them and re-purpose them to gather information. These masterminds or engineers may rely on Runes in order to survive and so they actively send and abduct genetically modified Runeterrans to expedite the process. Each Void-born given one task to perform.

Cho'Garth consumes others and grows bigger. He may have been created with the purpose of analyzing organic material and reusing it. Similar to how Reapers in Mass Effect convert the species of a planet into a Reaper by melting down or breaking down the organic material and using that material to construct something else. In this case, Cho’Garth uses the organic material he consumes to strengthen himself.

Kha'Zix also consumes others and adapts. He learns from what he consumes and changes his genes and body to mimic his victims. The mastersminds behind the void may not be able to physically live in Runeterra so they created something that can adapt and copy someone else's genes. They may in turn use the information Kha'Zix has gathered to modify their bodies to survive in Runeterra when they later decide to conquer it.

Vel'Koz is a little more complicated than his other siblings. Vel'Koz seems to analyze the materials Runeterrans are made of. He may be a living mass spectrometer able to identify the composition of the local species. He was also given more intelligence to be able to extract information from dialects, scriptures, etc. Essentially what he is, is like an archaeologist or planetary scientist. The Void may actually choose to enslave instead of exterminate the local species and therefore need a way to communicate with them.

Kassadin was the Void’s mistake. He was able to somehow withstand the brain washing and conditioning, escaping free of the Void’s control. He is now voicing the Void’s existence and danger to Valoran. We have yet to see who has listened to him though.

The Watchers

The Watchers remind me a lot of the White Walkers from Game of Thrones the Sauron from Lord of the Rings. They may be an ancient species unable to live in a hot world. They may be similar to the Void in that they may rely on Runes and magic to survive, but instead they are locked biologically into what kind of temperature they can live in. 

This is why perhaps The Watchers seek to freeze Runeterra over in order to survive. Because of their age, they were able to perfect their magic skills and able to gift people magic. Similar to the Void, they recruited Runeterrans and promised them power if they help them. Just like Sauron fooled middle-Earth by promising them power with his rings. The Watchers corrupted their recruits and brain washed them / put them under a spell.

Lissandra is the only current living member left from The Watchers. She has been plotting her way for ages. Infiltrating and impersonating powerful key figures to create a aliance with the Freljord. She may be using her charm or magic to rally members into following her orders, using them like pawns to once again free The Watchers. Lastly, given the amount of power Lissandra has, her in-game character may not even be the true Lissandra, but instead an avatar she uses to interact with the Freljord. Notice how she breaks off into ice crystals after death. She may be shaping the ice to form an avatar using her magic.

Ashe. Just like the Void with Kassadin, was bound to be a mistakes(In allowing her to live). Ashe fell victim to Lissandra’s plots and survived. She opposes Lissandra, unwittingly, with the Averosan. She may not know it yet; of Lissandra’s true intents or identity.

Big Bang Bob2/15/2015, 2:26:04 AM1 votes

I think I can explain the resemblance.

KogMaw mouth of the abyss (void)

Velkoz A creature in search of information.

The Abyss may be a closed portal to the void that is threatening to open and unleash horrible creatures onto Runeterra. My freezing the world, it will become weakened to a larger scale void invasion. The "Watchers" are likely some of Vel's kind sent as scouts to gain info of the human kind. When the Watchers saw a chance to turn our kind against ourselves, they empowered several humans with their tool of weakening. Ice. Think about it. It weigh peoples weapons and armor down, if not destroying them outright, slows human movements, and is easy to manipulate, especially since the air is full of water (just look how spammy Lissandra is). They were almost ready for an invasion of the area, but when Avarosa saw their true intentions, she made a careful plan to close the massive "abyss", preventing the invasion. The Watchers fled back to the void to present the information they learned.

If some of this doesn't make sense, it is probably because I haven't read much on the Freijord lore, so feel free to find a way to bend this to the lore.

Skye reave2/15/2015, 4:38:05 AM1 votes

id prefer if they weren't void related though

Skye reave2/20/2015, 2:47:27 AM1 votes

the wiki for league seems to agree on annivia freezing gnar. Why is that?

Skye reave2/20/2015, 3:18:59 AM1 votes

thats actually awesome. thank you

GreenLore2/20/2015, 11:27:08 AM1 votes

We finally got a good look at a watcher and not just some vague statues.

Turns out the watchers look nothing like vel'koz(except for that single-eye-thing) and they have in fact horns.

I'd really like to see one ingame(I mean sure they are said to be extremely powerful,but they were not unbeatable)