Qiyana is boring character in the lore. (Very long post)

Composure·7/11/2019, 3:47:55 PM·17 votes·11,115 views

I just decided to read Qiyana lore. And even watched Necrit's video about her. Why do people claim she is very well written? she has typical story of someone being cocky because she's not respected. I wouldn't mind that at all if she actually would have a believable personality and lore. Her story for me seems nothing more than a tool to introduce a new region. She's basically boring version of Draven.

I can see 1 of possible counter arguments that she's written intentionally to be like that. My answer to that is "Have you seen Avatar The last airbender?" Some characters were written to be less likable and relatable. You totally don't have to to make her relatable or likable but, Riot you gotta make her interesting in her own way. For example let's look at Zuko from The last airbender, We know that he's cocky prince who wants to get his honor and respect back. And in order to do that he needs to kill the avatar. He's not the strongest dude, but strong enough to do his mission. yet he struggles to do that, and that's the beauty of his story because he totally don't have to do it in order to gain his honor. That's why his character works and that's why his story is liked by many people even if he wasn't meant to be liked or relatable character at least in the beginning. The thing is we know exactly what the honor means to Zuko. it means getting his life fixed maybe meeting his mom getting a better relationship with his father and sister. However, we don't know what it means for Qiyana to gain respect? Does she really even care about respect? Or ruling the country? This important piece is missing. There's no believable reason why she's doing things that way? Is she trying to fight the system? Is she trying to fight the law? is she trying to change the world? what's her goal? There's nothing out there. We know she does those things, and yet what does it mean to her? does it mean everything to her? Is fighting the system a choice to get higher position to her and if so what's the point for her to be a ruler? So all of you people saying that she's a very well written character please explain me what's so likable about her?

I can see another counter argument, that it's not fair to compare a video game character's lore with a tv series (animated) character who got so much screen time and development. And you would be right. However if you're a clever writer you can write your character very quickly and tell the reader what kind of person he is and what he wants to achieve. And a good example is Dio from Jojo's bizarre adventure. There's 1 scene while being a teenager he's playing chess and wins against an opponent who is much older than him only to get smacked his head in his plate. and it tells us that 1: That Dio is from poor family. 2: his is very intelligent if he manages to beat a much older and experienced opponent. 3: this is not a situation where he wants to be in, life is not easy for him. 4: while the man is mocking him he reaches for the fork and thinks that he should stab him, but he changes his mind realizing that it would cause more trouble for him and he drops the idea of stabbing the man. it tells us that he's not afraid to do it, but rather that he's frustrated living in unfair world. this scene tells us the audience why he became a villain. And that's how 1 scene can tell u almost everything about a character, what he's like and why he's doing something or what he wants. And Quiyana don't have this type of writing. they just talked more about her region than her motives itself. Basically I just ripped of supereyepatchwolf's video about jojo's so here's the link if any of u is interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgIuhkG63_s&t=

Another example is Lux. the way riot wrote her was kinda similar to Dio's. We understand all we need about her without reading everything about her. she's a simple character we know she's optimistic, but in reality she's afraid of herself, afraid of the world. it's simple yet it conveys us the she has a personality and that she's wearing a mask. We know that she would like to get rid of her powers because it's depressing to her, everyone would hate her if they found out about it. We know what it means to be a mage for her and why she tries to erase her powers.

Well Qiyana does things because she can do them because she sees that she's the best option for her nation to be ruled by. But it does not tell us why she wants to do that. That's the issue for me with this character. We know what she's capable of but we don't really know why she's trying to show of her abilities? it's just a ripped of story from zuko about gaining respect and being cocky. But the story could've been way better if they gave little bit more thought into character itself and not just region.

Basically people says she's very well written because she was written to be hated. Alright that's fair enough if u have read Attack on titan manga (Spoilers incoming) where the character gabi was made to be hated, she killed one of the main side character then she kept being annoying character and killing another main character. She really pissed of people but we knew that she hated everyone because of these characters her family was hated, hell here whole race was hated and she had no other choice or at least that's what she thinks. and her character works. but Qiyana does not have any emotions, she lacks emotions and simpathy, even for hatible character. Nothing feels like is going for her even if things is going on for her, it just doesn't feel that way. And that's why her story is not very well written.

If you disagree with me tell me why, I'm really interested what others think maybe I'm wrong about something.

The thing is I am not more knowledgeable about story writing than riot is. All I am is a man that got disappointed at 1 character's lore in a video game. But Lore means quite a lot to me and if it didn't mean a lot to me I would not have written this post to begin with.

Also thanks for reading.

19 Comments

FURRY V27/11/2019, 4:05:12 PM12 votes

I wanted to be sure so I took a look. You are right, it is really a long post.

WOOOOOOOOHOOOOOO7/11/2019, 8:41:03 PM8 votes

Eh, I can’t say much about Dio, but Zuko isn’t really like Qiyana. Zuko is an emotionally manipulated and physically abused child with a desperate need to prove himself. You watch Zuko because you want to see how he can redeem himself or how his character changes.

Qiyana is a villain. She’s ruthless, power-hungry, and motivated. We can infer from her opinions of her parents that they are kind, law abiding people. Qiyana has the ego of Draven, but she isn’t necessarily a glory hound. Draven wants to be famous, but doesn’t really care for responsibility and is subservient to his superiors. Qiyana is much more ambitious, she wants to rule a nation that has remained secluded because she believes this seclusion is weakness. She also believes that, if she were in charge, she could thrust Ixtaocan onto the world stage.

Wether or not she’s right about her ruling capabilities is irrelevant. What is interesting about her is her cunning. She has nine older sisters to contend with for the throne, and she is willing to do whatever it takes to secure her spot.

Characters like Zuko or Dio don’t serve so much as comparisons because they’re not really great templates for characters. She’s more like a Julius figure drumming up grassroots support for her eventual overthrow of the State.

AS I LAY FEEDING7/11/2019, 9:31:11 PM5 votes

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FSRER7/11/2019, 6:16:02 PM5 votes

No reason to have written such a long post. I read it but I can describe her with 1 sentence: She's a THOT

Sancre7/12/2019, 3:22:17 PM3 votes

Can't 100% agree with your opinion, Qiyana is well written, or so I think, because she is evil, made to be hard to like, and apparently with no motives, but to find hers you need to ponder about her past.

It's not uncommon that people that is overshadowed for years end up being cruel and petty, Qiyana was overshadowed for 8 sisters, if that wasn't reason enough to turn sour (and end up being quite twisted if the base was like that from the beginning), she realized she had more power than all her sisters, and then she used that to be recognized... but no one would recognize her under her sisters, even through she was so powerful, no one agreed with her logic on who should rule.

Loneliness, frustration and the usually feeling of teenagers about "always being right and knowing more" led an already bad seed to turn into a ruthless princess that wouldn't hesitate to let others die, or kill them herself, if the need arises, all of this so everyone finally agrees with her ideas and give her the atention that she rightfully deserves.

I think that Qiyana is really well written, and it's not only because of her past, but also because it's easy to see what the future holds for her, that being pure despair. We all know that time usually show us our places, and Qiyana, having only met Ixtal, is still unaware of the true monsters that lie in wait. Her strenght will soo fail her, and when it finally does, and she realizes that her people despise her.... well, she might not ever wake up from that nightmare. I'm being generous with her prediction though, as she also has no idea of Noxus and how many awesome mages they had, and if Noxus raises its sight towards Ixtal, not much will be left from such new place, until then, she will keep acting like a match in the dark, attracting the gazes of dangerous predators

CaeIus7/11/2019, 8:38:05 PM2 votes

I agree with everything you said. I also watch Jo Jo, and I've watched whole avatar, and I also read Shingeki no kyojin manga and I also like (used to) league of legends lore. The second wave of lores were better to be sincere (after that "Z Champs joined League of legends for to fight for the peace of the country bs). I really liked Soraka's/WW Lore... sad that they changed it. I also liked that lux was a spy before, but this new one is not bad also. The comics are quite cool too.

New characters lores are terrible anyways. Neeko lore does not make sense, Kai'sa is also superficial.... but the queen of them all is Zoe. Zoe is a random girl that was chosen to be an aspect because "TRIGGER"...

StormBladeMaster7/13/2019, 9:25:13 AM1 votes

Qiyana is a little bit like Cruella De Vil.

She has not ambitions except doing bad and evil around her because she loves that.

She is evil and she is ready to do everything to have the power like Cruella did to have her fur dalmatian coat.

I saw her like a mini version of Cruella De Vil.

WoonStruck8/2/2019, 5:51:10 PM1 votes

Qiyana is boring character in the gameplay.

KatarinaIsPuke8/2/2019, 9:24:50 PM1 votes

who cares about lores, peopel don't read these days, they just listen to what champions says in their quotes.