@Riot: Can Riven's skin tone have a little more consistency?

Melancholy Exile·11/7/2014, 1:07:46 PM·16 votes·9,181 views

Riven is a character whose skin tone has varied a great deal across her depictions. Her original splash, and the cancelled one before that, certainly made her look tan but every subsequent splash until her appearance in the background of Pool Party Ziggs' has made her really quite pale. Now with the PBE texture updates to Riven's skins we see that Riot has pushed her classic appearance to be considerably more tan than any of her others, with Battle Bunny Riven in particular looking almost like a different person as a result (Which some might say isn't such a bad thing).

I've always appreciated Riven being portrayed with a darker skin tone so I certainly like this change, but I find myself wondering why exactly you decided to implement a change like this on only one of her skins if it's really supposed to be her natural appearance. Why make a change like this and limit it only to one skin if you're actually making her appearance in-game less consistent as a result?

22 Comments

PRN11/7/2014, 2:40:03 PM6 votes

Look at Janna too :( Janna is so dark, I wonder why? She was always drawn and shown to be very pale. But her classic skin is extremely tanned compared to her old model. I noticed it straight away the day they remade her.

Darkomantis11/7/2014, 8:54:27 PM5 votes

Simple. Riot has been affected by the White supremacy system.

Gapybo11/7/2014, 3:03:42 PM3 votes

Just because she is tanned in classic skin it doesn't mean all her skins should follow that, skins are not cannon and are supposed to make the champion look different. It's also just a tan, tan is not something permanent, skin color is. Riven is an outcast, a wanderer who probably spends a lot of the time on the open, under the sun so her having tan is natural. In the battle bunny skin she works at a night club, which means different lifestyle = no tan. Same goes for her other skins where she is fully covered in armor and clothes, even her face = no tan. This doesn't make her appearance less consistent, it brings variety in her appearance which is exactly what skins are intended for.

I GONNA FK ON U11/7/2014, 8:26:50 PM3 votes

Riot. Consistency. Yeah...good luck with that.

Wînter Fox11/8/2014, 1:43:52 AM2 votes

I personally miss Latina Riven and want her back. The only skin Riven should be white in is a Pumpkin Spice skin

Kent Mojo11/9/2014, 3:13:04 AM2 votes

Agreed that we need more varied skin tones! I also really prefer tanned/latina Riven. I think a darker skin tone works a lot better with her color scheme.

Moonglow Nami11/9/2014, 10:30:08 AM1 votes

representation of the different types of human skin tones are pretty important, especially when a game is this big and has such a wide array of players/fans who come from all sorts of places with all sorts of backgrounds and ethnicities themselves. (emphasis on HUMAN champions here)

for those of us who are not paler skinned, it can be very frustrating to see characters with skin tones that are closer to ours be brought out only to have their following skins/art suddenly become more and more light. when i started playing league, i fell in love right away with riven in particular because my first thought upon seeing her was, "wow, she looks like me and she's badass!" it made me feel more welcome in a small way - this was when her art was the one used before the current updated one with the vague background and very clear tan-coloured skin. i am half black and half white so my skin colour is similar to hers. in my head she shared a similar background to me and wasn't just some pale-skinned person who'd gotten a tan during all her wanderings in her exile.

eventually i did start to notice the lack of variety in human champions's skin tones as well as the inconsistency in riven's arts in particular. there are so many ethnicities in our real world that this game could take from but we keep seeing the same type of paler skinned champions time after time or it seems that updates and other skins have this lightening of the skin tone to them, which honestly is hurtful to people like me even if it's not consciously intentional.

another one that comes to mind is miss fortune - in her previous classic splash art, she had a clear tan and that made sense for someone like her who travels so frequently and is no doubt in the sunshine often. but her current one is incredibly pale for a character of her type... it really makes me wonder why this trend of lightening skin tones seems to happen so often but all i have to do is look at one of these comments from a couple of days ago and i find my answer:

"If Riot had to make a few edits, I'd say lighten the face and a little around the neck to make it look a little more pleasing."

whether or not the depth of this sentence is apparent to the person who said it and anyone who reads it and agrees, there is still no question that the idea of lighter/paler skin being what is most appealing is still there, which means darker skin is seen as less appealing... which is very, very problematic.

and is why this topic even matters, especially to those of us who are not pale skinned and have to see changes like this and wonder if the artists realize just how deep a statement is made when it does happen.

GreenLore11/7/2014, 3:35:35 PM1 votes

Overall skins are different,they don't have to have the same skin tone. i mean just look at shyvana,she is only blue in her classic skin and her ice drake skin(and the ice drake one has a completely different shade of blue),she looks like a totally different person in each skin

Rozzeta11/8/2014, 11:33:27 AM1 votes

Considering she has several other characteristics from an albino, pale skin makes more sense.

That said, it's Riven, So if she want's to get a than even if phisically impossible for an albino, then she will get a tan.

Junkο11/8/2014, 1:36:22 PM1 votes

Lucian

Rune Ocarina11/7/2014, 1:36:50 PM1 votes

I honestly feel like her skin tone in the classic skin is a little too dark. Even before the TU she was never that dark and I really hope Riot makes it a little lighter but still keeps the tan. With what we have in her current splash, Riven is nowhere near that dark, especially in the face area. If Riot had to make a few edits, I'd say lighten the face and a little around the neck to make it look a little more pleasing.

On the other hand, please don't change Battle Bunny, it's perfect the way it is now.