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So Less VGU and More New Champions

Winterkill·4/23/2019, 7:29:03 PM·20 votes·29,686 views

This just put the nail on the coffin for me. Riot Games values new champions over old ones. Players wanted the proof. Here is your proof. If you think your main will get a fresh coat of paint to modernize them, you will be disappointed. If you think your main will get a new mechanic or work done on them to make them standout just as much as the kit overloaded new champions, you will be disappointed.

The fact of the matter is we have champions that look so outdated, so old, cannot compete gameplay wise compared to newer champs . . . . the answer is outright ingore them and let these champions rot. New champions have already been made a top priority with reworks and massive adjustments the past two years.

You know where these Developers alliances stand. Zilean mains, he will continue to look outdated and garbage. Karma mains, she will continue to have no gameplay identity and incomplete art assets. Where is the Yordle work to make them all look the same? Fiddles mains he will stay the way he is. This is all because these Developers only care about the same popupar champions every year and the new ones. Leave the game and let it sink. They clearly do not care about anything other than the same garbage they always have.

Really horrible and bias company that has yet to convince me they care.

83 Comments

RiotReav34/23/2019, 8:26:02 PM89 votes

I want to take a minute to answer this from my perspective. First of all our intentions of doing less VGUs and more New Champs was actually based on caring for the playerbase as well as from player feedback we have gotten over the years as we have done New Champs and VGUs. Let me go into a bit more detail though.

First when I said less VGUs I didnt mean we would stop doing them, I just meant we would slow down. Expect to still see plenty of VGUs in the future, just not as many as we have been doing last year.

The reason why I feel that his is coming from a caring place is this. There are many players that share your perspective, that they want their main updated, and changed. But you have to understand there are also many other players that love their Champion, and find it very frustrating when they are updated even if many other players think the update makes them way better. We have to care about these players as well, and whenever we do VGUs we also cause a lot of disruption and frustration from players over their Champion being changed. New Champions generally don't cause this player pain. Last year we actually saw a lot higher player frustration over change, partly due to how many old Champions we were updating and changing, with many older players feeling alienated by the changes.

At this point, after Morde, many of the Champions we would consider for a VGU have much higher players bases then the Champions we were doing VGUs on in the past. This isn't to say there isn't value in doing them, but if we were doing them at the rate we were doing them last year, on Champions with bigger player bases, then that is many more players that would feel frustrated or alienated by the changes, even if many other players like them.

This isn't to say we want to stop doing them as we feel there is value in the game feeling modern and up to date, which means we value updating the things that are getting old and dated. The Champions on the list just aren't as dated as some of the ones we did over the last couple years, and as a result the value in updating them isn't as high, and also has a higher disruption and player pain cost since the Champions have bigger player bases.

Lewanor4/23/2019, 8:00:36 PM7 votes

I was hoping for 1 rework-1 champ-1 rework-1 champ to continue, i guess not [sg-soraka]

The Goatman 4/24/2019, 3:15:18 PM4 votes

this reads as "wah i didnt get what i want"

Altonius Amakiir4/25/2019, 7:48:05 AM4 votes

Zilean main here: What's wrong with his visuals? He's certainly no where near the worst looking champion. And even if he was, that's no justification for a VGU. They could just do an update to visuals like with Renekton, Mundo, Cho, or Olaf in recent past to name a few.

insert generic mocking insults hurled at you repeatedly for your shallow response that almost intentionally misinterprets what was said by Riot [sg-miss-fortune]

LePruck4/25/2019, 5:09:55 AM2 votes

Lol this also protects my main from being reworked so... it could be they like some of the old champions as they are. Just sayin

mosholol14/24/2019, 7:34:22 PM1 votes

Listen i do not like rito but people who work on new champs is way different than people who update old champs and riot sucks in alot of things but presenting new champs and updating champs rito is really really good at this