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How to find answer to useless lore questions?

Enlokan·9/22/2019, 2:25:58 PM·6 votes·10,930 views

Hello,

I have a lot of lore questions that aren't satisfied by the small amount of stories that add mysteries over mysteries.

Like "What did the darkins (those we know about, Aatrox, Rhaast and Varus) looked like when they were only transcended?" (I would go for Aatrox as a bat, Rhaast as a bull and Varus as somekind of goat) These are... not very vital questions (but not to me !) and I can't hope to see these answered anytime soon.

But it must have an answer, you can't say "Yeah suddenly Darkin are corrupted transcended" without a thought of what they were during their greatest time. They might even not have the same name back then. So much questions !

So I would like to know if there is authors that are keen to answers these kind of questions, or if it is a taboo of some sort.

Here is some random questions I have, maybe some of them have been answered (in this case throw a link to my face)

What does the name of each voidborn means? We got a while ago a not about the name of Vel'Koz said to mean "Understand by destroying" (I don't have the exact english translation~) and its name came from the Icathian language. So I came to think that all voidborn names had a meaning in Icathian tongue. Quite recently we had the signification of Kha'Zix name which is "Facing Yourself". Name given by the Rengar's tribe (" Kilash" tribe?) which is known to live in Shurima, so their tongue could look like Icathian without problem I guess. So what does Cho'Gath, Rek'Sai and Kog'Maw significate?

  1. (Void again) How many of each voidborn exist?

We know that Vel'Koz is the first of the watchers, so that, even if he's the most ancient one, he isn't unique. Same thing for Rek'Sai which is the queen of the Xer'Sai. Can we ask ourselves if there is different version of Cho'Gat for example?

  1. What the hell Ryze??? (LUX COMIC SPOILER)

In Ryze cinematic we see him hide 4 world rune in the root of a petricite tree. Later in Lux's comics we learn that petricite doesn't erase magic but absorbs and STOCKS IT. According of the power of the world rune, does Sylas could make Demacia explode if he would walk into these woods? This one is a bit far-fetched but hey.

  1. LUX COMIC SPOILER (Again)

The Lux's comics was super cool and added a lot of depth to the Marie Sue's of Demacia. And the writer kept the death of the death of the king kinda casual. We know he didn't die from the hand of Sylas himself, so who killed the king? One of the mage rebels? Seriously, we don't know the name of the person who killed the FREAKIN' KING OF DEMACIA without a trace of blood and behind a closed door ?!

  1. Who are the stars Ahri hold in her hands?

I mean, there is a blue, a green, and a yellow star-stone. I'm not sure but these things gives the impression of something really important, to me it's the essence of deceased star guardians. But eeehhhhh…? The three partners Ahri lost doesn't match these stars. I mean… well the Green one could be Rakan (even so he seems to have kept his essence as we can see in its skin recall) and none of Xayah and Neeko are blue. Kof, and Neeko isn't even dead. If we go a little bit further (and far fetched), we could say that the yellow one is Neeko in her prestige form (and she lost her essence and regressed to a weaker form...?) And maybe, maaaaybe since Rakan still have his star, the green one is Xayah's. And the blue one is Zoe's before she got corrupted? Be she… seems to be a real meanie. Well it's not making so much sense but I haven't found anything better.

Well, I have been long enough, I still have a thousand questions. If you could just tell me where are the answers or who I have to kidnap to get them it will be great.

Otherwise I would be happy to discuss theory !

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LordRedStone Nr19/22/2019, 5:50:32 PM3 votes

If you want official answers to stuff that is not covered in stories, well, there is none. Your best guess is to ask some of the authors here or on Twitter, but even then not everything they say is a solid canon answer, it could also be their opinion. Treat these carefully, especially when speculating.

Sometimes, there is no answer but a lot of fuel for speculation, so I'll try my best to come up with some answers.

  1. Darkin I don't know what they were as Ascended and there is no real evidence or hints for anything so I'll go with your guess, it's as good as any. However I'm pretty sure they did not change names when turning into the Darkin. More likely is that they took their current name when they ascended, and kept it since.

  2. Voidborn The names are given in ancient shuriman as Icathia was destroyed. (It might have been the same language, but then it would still be called shuriman.) "Sai" means desert, look at "The Great Sai" on the map. "Xer" means "little devil" (Source and it also describes Sai and other names). So the Xer'Sai are literally "Devils of the Desert" while Rek'Sai probably means something like Queen of the Desert or something like that.

  3. Voidborn again Most voidborn die pretty soon, so even if there were more of them when they spawned (don't want to say "were born" here), they most likely died. This is what sets the champions apart from other voidborn: All champions are impressive, the strongest, best of their kind or unique in other ways. This is why I would say they all are unique (not counting Xer'Sai btw). There might have been others with the same concept (knowledge, growth, evolution) but they would never be exact copies of Vel'Koz, Cho'Gath or Kha'Zix.

  4. Petricite Yes, the spot Ryze chose is not as safe as it looked. Sylas blowing up Demacia seems unlikely, as it's certainly not going to happen in a story. Maybe he could, but I think the question is irrelevant.

  5. The King I think that was intentional and will be covered later. Keep in mind that most people in Demacia "know" that Sylas did it, even if we know he didn't. No one was there when he said it except for Jarvan, who obviously didn't believe it.

  6. Star Guardian Gems These are indeed the gems of Xayah, Rakan and Neeko. At the time of the battle, I assume they had different colors:

  • Rakan: Blue
  • Xayah: Green
  • Neeko: Yellow/Golden

Neeko faked her death with a clone, so the gem can be broken even if she's still alive. Xayah and Rakan then changed colors due to the connection to each other and also Zoe's corruption. To be honest, this release messed with the color theory a bit.

Some english words you were looking for are "Ascended" instead of "Transcended", and Vel'Koz name means "to understand by unmaking" iirc. I could still easily understand what you meant, just pointing out the correct translations.

Hunkmenlordy9/22/2019, 4:25:20 PM1 votes

What's useless lore questons? lolz

Ebonmaw Dragon9/22/2019, 5:43:57 PM1 votes

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Here is some random questions I have, maybe some of them have been answered (in this case throw a link to my face)

What does the name of each voidborn means?

"Sai" means Desert. Maybe her whole name means "Scourge of the Desert" but im not 100% sure about it.

https://i.imgur.com/dqyCQBe.png

And i guess that "Maw" literally means maw.

  1. (Void again) How many of each voidborn exist?

"Though it has bred many of them, no two horrors of the Void are exactly the same. Their otherworldly forms are as varied as they are terrifying—yet all are driven by an insatiable hunger, with the eerie pulsing of their hearts driving them relentlessly onward." https://universe.leagueoflegends.com/en_US/region/void/?mv=image-gallery

  1. What the hell Ryze??? (LUX COMIC SPOILER)

Its fair to say that Ryze does not know that.

  1. LUX COMIC SPOILER (Again)

It seems like the Mageseekers did it, but nothing is confirmed. I personally believe that Lebanc/The Black Rose did it.

TheMan2929/22/2019, 7:38:35 PM1 votes

plausible means it can be believer through logic. the OP is not asking for a concrete answer. I hope you take what you just said to heart though

Dank Magic9/22/2019, 8:40:31 PM1 votes

Is Vel'Koz even a Watcher though? I thought he was just the first Voidborn to enter Runeterra and relays information back to the original Watchers or something. Canonically, he wouldn't be able to win a fight against Rek'Sai (think I saw it in the AMA for Rek'Sai by Riot upon release, don't really remember though)

Dank Magic9/22/2019, 8:42:18 PM1 votes

Also, Rakan's star does seem to be green, in his and SG Xayah's recall Rakan seemingly gives his emblem to Xayah to "uncorrupt" her while he becomes wreathed in darkness, and the emblem given to Xayah is green. I am indeed confused about the Blue and Yellow though, but the prestige theory makes sense.

King Braum9/22/2019, 11:38:14 PM1 votes

As far as we know Voidborn are named in ancient shuriman so if we can learn how their naming convention works we could possibly figure out their names. The only issue with this is that there's a solid chance that most Voidlings and Shurimans were made far before Shuriman was established as a language in the game meaning there's a solid chance none of the names translate into anything until the writing team goes into the effort of making a simple language or rebuild certain names (such as Kassadin) to carry new meanings.

Bad2Bone9/22/2019, 3:29:12 PM1 votes

https://www.youtube.com/user/Necrit94/featured Your welcome.

Thaumaturge Void9/24/2019, 12:52:38 AM1 votes

I think it was stated somewhere that Justicar Aatrox was somewhat similar to what he was “before he became a Darkin”. Don’t quote me on this though.

There is probably an endless amount of each type of voidborn. For example, Vel’Koz is not a watcher, but more like one of their more connected species, and is probably of the same species as the voidborn Ryze fights in his cinematic.

I bet my money that Ryze actually does know Petricite absorbs and stores magic rather than simply destroying it. He did, after all, have thousands of years to find a way to locate AND store the World Runes, why not take a few more years to test that what you’re storing them in is actually safe? Maybe he knows more about Petricite than we do, and specifically stores them in his vault in order to take advantage of some sort of mechanism unknown to us yet.

I suspect there is a lot more foul play to the King’s death than a rebel too chicken to claim responsibility.