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@Riot, Question about the new Yasuo and Riven lores

Zaghyr·4/2/2018, 5:04:01 PM·15 votes·4,226 views

At this point it is indisputable that Riven killed Yasuo's elder (now named Elder Souma). With that in mind, I am confused about the continuity of events that take place for both of their lores.

In Riven's lore, there was still an ambush/battle, a call for help, and the chemical bombing. This is fine. The problem comes with Yasuo's lore. In his lore, just like his previous bio, he heard of the nearby war-band and left to go fight them. In his new lore, Yasuo comes accross a decimated battlefield and he assumes that something terrible happened (chemical bombing presumably) that only 1 sword could not stop. The next day he returns to the school to find out that Souma is dead and rest of the lore is pretty much the same.

I want to assume that the battlefield Yasuo ran into was the same as where Riven was betrayed, and if that is the case then when and how could Riven have killed the elder?

Again this is assuming the battlefield is the same location, and it is entirely possible that it's not. The reason I think this is because Riven's background is the only area that mentions both Noxians and Ionians suffering from the chemical bombing. Following this logic, and with Riven killing the elder, the timeline doesn't add up. For the battlefield to be the same, it would be impossible for Riven to leave, kill the elder, and come back. Also assuming that Yasuo was with the elder, or in the vicinity, before he left, that would mean the elder died before or during the time the battlefield was bombed. The only other thing I can think of is that when Riven flee'd, she found Souma, the two fought for some reason, and he died, but this suggestion just sounds weird.

I would love to have a small timeline that links their lore's together. Again, this is assuming that the battlefield is the same for both lore's. If the battlefield isn't the same, then the continuity is fine.

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HonestJohnTheCon4/2/2018, 5:08:14 PM6 votes

Maybe Riven, in her broken anger, stumbled upon the elder and murdered him right after, just as Yasuo was checking the battlefield.

Or maybe it was Kled (I like that theory the best).

333lom4/2/2018, 7:42:10 PM6 votes

My guess would be that Riven and Yasuo went in circle: when Yasuo left his teacher, came to the battlefield, Riven had left the battlefield. While Yasuo was on the battlefield, Riven broke hew sword in a fight against the teacher. Only powerful magic (for example the teacher's magic) could break Riven's sword, which she wanted. By the time Yasuo returned, Riven left the scene.

some degenerate4/2/2018, 11:51:49 PM3 votes

Reread the bio and connect the familial dots. The new lore strongly implies that the murderer wasn't Riven, but his own father.

The fact that wind-technique swordsmen are apparently extremely rare and are more or less a once-in-a-lifetime/generation deal adds credence to this.

Since only several of them appear every few hundred years, this suggests that Yasuo's wind-based talents are the direct result of him having a natural & born affinity towards magic.

Recent lore also confirmed that magically-gifted humans are extremely rare (like 1 in every 1000 individuals is a magic-user or something like that,) and that such a natural & born affinity towards magic is an inherited genetic trait. It runs through families - either skipping multiple generations, or is directly passed on from a parent to a child. (Annie is one such case, who inherited her immensely powerful and uncontrollable pyromancy abilities from her deceased biological mother. It would also explain why Yasuo was so willing to help and mentor Taliyah, since he could probably relate to her hardships of being an outcast, elemental-based magic user who also had difficulty controlling and maintaining her powers. The bio does go on to claim that he was a stubborn and difficult student to deal with, after all.)

Meanwhile, Yaso is now confirmed to be a bastard child. His mother was a widow and Yone was the son of her deceased husband. Eventually she had a romantic fling with some mysterious vagabond, who soon abandoned both of them before Yasuo was even born. This explains why Yasuo has an extremely rare & natural affinity towards wind-based magic, while Yone doesn't. Different fathers and all.

Even worse - the fact that the killer's attack patterns bear remarkable similarities to his own wind-technique fighting style (three wind-strikes to the body,) not only implies a direct genetic relation, but that both of them were taught by the same master as well.

It couldn't have been Riven because the new bios imply that she left a distant battlefield hours & hours before Elder Souma was killed and found dead. She isn't a covert assassin either; so she wouldn't have been assigned such orders to begin with. Riven being the true culprit is just a red herring to throw us off.

So by process of elimination: the true culprit was either his father, or a relative on his father's side who likely killed their master in some act of revenge, or at the request of another individual (AKA a paid or tasked assassination.) For all we know, Elder Souma could've also been Yasuo's grandfather or a blood relative without him even knowing it, let alone speculating it.

Rune Ocarina4/2/2018, 5:48:30 PM3 votes

From what was updated it sounds like Riven didn't kill the elder, but Yasuo has all rights to suspect her. This could lead to conflict between the two before the real murderer is revealed in which Yasuo and Riven could team up against to fight.

Thats Karma4/3/2018, 2:41:35 AM3 votes

Not gonna lie.. After reading this thread I unironically believe Kled is behind this.

Axzarious4/3/2018, 4:34:49 AM2 votes

Yasuo broke the wind before he went. He needs to be more careful when he lets one rip and cut back on the beans.

GenoXx4/2/2018, 6:31:39 PM1 votes

Yes thank you, been saying that for ages(in the old lore). And Riot doesn't help with them promoting the yas-riven rivalry. But I do feel like he will meet her there when he returns since she's roaming the old battlefields in self-exile. It's near his old village.

Ahri Baka4/3/2018, 11:03:54 PM1 votes

I just want them to make Yone ..

AbiwonKenabi4/3/2018, 3:48:55 PM1 votes

I see a few interesting candidates mentioned on here. There's Yasuo's father, who wasn't mentioned previously and we don't know any details about, and Kled--specifically the wind spirit he rides, Skaarl.

Though in the new Ionia lore video, they mention something about the use of chemical weapons, implying it wasn't just this one battle Riven was at. So possibly this wasn't the battle Riven was at. We don't know enough about individual battles in the Noxian-Ionian War to really say for absolute certain that the battle Yasuo saw the aftermath of was the battle Riven went on exile.

So I think Riven is still a plausible candidate, along with Kled and Yasuo's unknown dad.

Lucky Moniker4/2/2018, 10:20:38 PM1 votes

I am not convinced it was her, sure there are a lot of coincidental and circumstantial evidence, but not much else if you ask me. It doesn’t make sense that she would travel that far (based on the time it took Yasuo to travel to the battlefield) just to kill elder?

Alternatively it could have been before the battle that caused Riven to go into exile.