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@Riot - Karma's Walk Animation is Terrible

Winterkill·12/6/2018, 5:06:20 AM·9 votes·6,310 views

Do these Developers really hate this champion this much? With most of the skins it is terrible. The main problem is the Mantle of Decorum that just bounces all over the place. Then we go to other skins like Traditional and Sakura and it looks TERRIBLE. I know the animator's heart was in the right place and in the GIFS it looked better, but this is ridiculous. Karma VGU 5 years ago does it no justice because the visual update to begin with was changed at the last minuet and it wasn't completed. Add in the fact that Karma's voice over and taunts were not completed and are nothing special, what did the animator really have to work with? Crap.

The walking animation in question.

https://streamable.com/6ngwf

The resolutions:

  1. Actually give the champion a God d**n visual update, so great and talented animators like this man can have something good to work off of. I mean, a VGU was prioritized on Ryze countless times and a mini VGU was prioritized on Ezreal. Players are tired of listening to Old and New Karma mains whine about this champion. Stop giving us half arsed work and actually do something. Riot Game Developers continue to find excuses to do nothing good on this champion and give us crappy work on her. Any work Developers do on this champion is terrible because the VGU 5 years ago is terrible and there is nothing fully conceptualized to work off of.

  2. The Mantle of Decorum is a garbage concept that makes absolutely no sense on Karma anymore. No where in Karma's new lore or thematic is it explained why Karma has the honor of having the Mantle of Decorum. The Mantle on Irelia was removed and I do not see any other champion in Ionia that has a Mantle. Get rid of the concept and give something to Karma that will make her a better champion. There is so much that can be done with Karma and her new theme, but we are still talking about the junky Mantle of Decorum that is moving all over the place in the new running animation. It looks alright on normal Karma, which is a very far stretch for me to say, but on every other skin it is terrible to look at. Get rid of Mantle of Decorum.

Why does Riot Game Developers hate this champion so much? They find ways to do virtually nothing on this champion, but play it off as the best work possible. You gave us a half arsed attempt as a VGU 5 years ago and she is constantly sitting at an abysmal play and winrate when she is not numbers buffed to death. You nerf the numbers buff all the time and she is in the same state every time. Just because she has a horrible numbers buff that made her relevant in the game, doesn't mean the kit, art, and gameplay identity is working. The players expect more from you and when you have excuse after excuse as to why nothing happens, it's no wonder no one wants to support it when every single time the work is garbage and half arsed. EVERYONE IS TIRED OF WHINY KARMA MAINS ASKING FOR WORK TO BE DONE ON HER. WE ARE TIRED OF WHINING AND FIGHTING FOR WORK TO BE DONE ON KARMA. Start actually doing work on Karma so everyone is on the same page and not mad at each other.

Why is it this hard to fight for you guys to actually do work on her, when you do it on so many of the same champions every single year? Fat fingering two digits on a keyboard and calling it a successful attempt at Karma, is not a successful attempt at Karma. It's just another excuse to do NOTHING for 5 more years and use excuse after excuse as so why nothing ever gets done. IT'S ALMOST 2019, RIOT! DO BETTER!

WORK ON WUKONG WHILE YOU ARE AT IT TOO! Stop making excuses as to why Wukong still doesn't have work done on him.

33 Comments

Hupsis12/6/2018, 7:50:17 AM7 votes

Your way of talking about the devs is really douchy. If they hate Karma as much as you make it sound, why would they even consider animation or gameplay updates on her?

I think she could benefit from an Ezreal level visual update. No need to overhaul her whole design, although her mantle could be re-evaluated. Gameplay update is already being developed.

"she is constantly sitting at an abysmal play and winrate when she is not numbers buffed to death"

Can't this be said of any of the recent VGUs?

"EVERYONE IS TIRED OF WHINY KARMA MAINS ASKING FOR WORK TO BE DONE ON HER. WE ARE TIRED OF WHINING AND FIGHTING FOR WORK TO BE DONE ON KARMA"

True, so how about giving it a little break? The devs surely already know the Karma community's opinion on her. Focus on giving feedback on things that are released, in this case the run animation (which imo could be improved further).

"WORK ON WUKONG WHILE YOU ARE AT IT TOO! Stop making excuses as to why Wukong still doesn't have work done on him."

And Mordekaiser, Mundo, Rammus, Volibear, Pantheon, Corki, Skarner, Fiddlesticks, Shaco, Malphite, Udyr...

remunade12/6/2018, 8:45:59 AM4 votes

Jax Malphite Pantheon Udyr I'm still waiting for these fools to stop looking like blobs. Karma looks perfectly good by comparison.

Arakadia12/6/2018, 8:25:45 AM3 votes

You could probably benefit from chilling out a little on your post if you want to find more success. Anyways, I really like her mantle and I think it is wrong to treat it as an objectively bad concept just because you don't like how it was implemented/animated.

Zyranium12/6/2018, 2:49:29 PM2 votes

I play a lot of Karma because I find her gameplay easy to me, but her actual character design & lore? Not so much to be honest. It's really bland, nothing makes me want to like her, maybe it's not my type of character, but I can enjoy a champion without playing him/her..

She needs some love !

http://pre06.deviantart.net/0e21/th/pre/i/2013/243/4/d/karma_thumbs_paul_kwon_pkfire_by_zeronis-d6kgas5.jpg

Just look at those amazing concept arts.

Emo Twink12/6/2018, 6:30:56 AM2 votes

I have nothing really to add just cuz it's all accurate. She deserves the love.

The Iceborn12/6/2018, 11:04:37 AM2 votes

Honestly I like her walk now... I mean I get your point and I see how you wuoldnt like it but I think it fits her well, they only need to stabilize her thingy (decorum?) a bit so its no that floaty above her head

Arta Eva12/6/2018, 12:05:27 PM2 votes

Welp. New walk animation ain't bad but the running animation should be worked on. i mean i play karma for 5 years already and now i don't wanna play her, when i play her now i always RUN, because run animation acquered ms is to LOW, and when i do run i feel like i am running against a wind or running at 1 place. Model movement is to fast for speed that she have and distance what she travels... If someone could decrease her model speed while running and increse MS acquered for triggering run animation, it would be great! I actually like Karma and her kit( ain't OP and ain't usless), would consider R+W effect reconsidered because getting twice longer root for whole ult used is ridicilous. But Jesus, change running model speed...

essentíaloils12/6/2018, 8:34:30 PM1 votes

Wintertechnics, you’re taking every possible chance in any thread to whine about Karma. She’s just not a high priortity. There are plenty of champions who have way more outdated visuals and animations, and they need to get touched on first.

Powdery Beans12/6/2018, 9:20:53 PM1 votes

She has a full rework coming soon. Chill your pickle.