disappointment about shadow and fortune

Khâmul··2 votes·682 views

When I saw the lore change for the shadow isles champions(i'm happy for mordekaiser changes,he is my main,but i'm waiting for yorick and eve),I was really happy. But I'm a bit disappointed about the shadow and fortune part. It's well written but I find what annoys me the most,just like in shonens (a manga style): when the main theme of the darkness,they introduce hope. Sure , I was expecting more interaction with shadow isles champions.I really wanted them to be in the front of the scene. Planning a battle,from their point of view( or at least,showing us a real slaughter if it's on the mortal point of view). I'm started to be sick of reading already the same story ( the power of friendship /love bullshit that comes from nowhere). Honestly,there's not so much about shadow. I couldn't feel a trace of fear,despair,death. I was excited at the beginning when i was reading because i was telling to myself " just wait,in the next chapter,they'll come"...I was so wrong.

9 Comments

Valaran Nara4 votes

Power of friendship didn't exist.

If you mean MF's company, that's loyalty on the grounds of, "I chose you to be my leader cause I'm intending to skullf**k everyone else."

The Joker had loyal followers. Penguin, Two-Face, and the likes. Tell me, do you think they were friends with their company? Nope. It was a job, one that the henchmen and crew made themselves deathly loyal to. BTW, most of MF's company perished. By the time they made it to the bridge, there was about a dozen, and then a few more died off. There's probably about 8 out of the originally 20 that showed up.

As for the hope, well, you kinda got me there. Hope was what saved Lucy's life. Or, at the very least, the fact that Senna didn't fully pass on (even though that knowledge nearly got him killed). Actually, that wasn't as much hope as a "Fuck, I'll try" because she appeared and he had no choice. Because apparently, he forgot he could even DO the silver dagger. With all the times that locket was glowing.

But when it comes to despair. Yes, Lucy won, but it went from "Thresh killed my wife" to "Thresh has my wife's immortal soul captive and he's torturing her to no ends." BTW, Thresh is the most sadistic being ever. His hope probably dwindled after that battle. He still didn't kill Thresh. His guns are no longer effective because THRESH knows how they work, and his wife...she has no peace. He's in greater despair than before. He's only going because a life mission now. Nothing else matters.

BTW, you have to love how it ended.

"Touch that knife again, and I'll gut you like that Krakenwyrm!"

Edit:

Also, all they did was survive a harrowing. They didn't stop it from happening again.

Khâmul1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Valaran Nara,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=GAF55iuL,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2015-10-30T18:05:06.350+0000)

Power of friendship didn't exist.

If you mean MF's company, that's loyalty on the grounds of, "I chose you to be my leader cause I'm intending to skullf**k everyone else."

The Joker had loyal followers. Penguin, Two-Face, and the likes. Tell me, do you think they were friends with their company? Nope. It was a job, one that the henchmen and crew made themselves deathly loyal to. BTW, most of MF's company perished. By the time they made it to the bridge, there was about a dozen, and then a few more died off. There's probably about 8 out of the originally 20 that showed up.

As for the hope, well, you kinda got me there. Hope was what saved Lucy's life. Or, at the very least, the fact that Senna didn't fully pass on (even though that knowledge nearly got him killed). Actually, that wasn't as much hope as a "Fuck, I'll try" because she appeared and he had no choice. Because apparently, he forgot he could even DO the silver dagger. With all the times that locket was glowing.

But when it comes to despair. Yes, Lucy won, but it went from "Thresh killed my wife" to "Thresh has my wife's immortal soul captive and he's torturing her to no ends." BTW, Thresh is the most sadistic being ever. His hope probably dwindled after that battle. He still didn't kill Thresh. His guns are no longer effective because THRESH knows how they work, and his wife...she has no peace. He's in greater despair than before. He's only going because a life mission now. Nothing else matters.

BTW, you have to love how it ended.

"Touch that knife again, and I'll gut you like that Krakenwyrm!"

Edit:

Also, all they did was survive a harrowing. They didn't stop it from happening again.

friendship was only about shonen,not this story. The main part of the complaint is the absence of shadow isles champs. And i'd rather to see a lucian able to fight back with his own means than a random power of love that comes from a soul etc... we just don't have the same tastes

Peridition4 votes

What exactly was hopeful about it to you?

A massive amount of people died.

Bilgewater is in (even more) ruins.

Senna is still be tortured by Thresh. Probably even worse now.

It look like if people don't sacrifice something to this Bearded Lady for saving them, she's going to wreck their lives.

I'm failing to see the happy ending.

Khâmul1 votes

{quoted}

What exactly was hopeful about it to you?

A massive amount of people died.

Bilgewater is in (even more) ruins.

Senna is still be tortured by Thresh. Probably even worse now.

It look like if people don't sacrifice something to this Bearded Lady for saving them, she's going to wreck their lives.

I'm failing to see the happy ending.

I was expecting a slaughter.A ravage. this is not. Senna's appearance is what made lucian different from a sock in the fight. I just don't like it.

Valaran Nara4 votes

{quoted}

I was expecting a slaughter.A ravage. this is not. Senna's appearance is what made lucian different from a sock in the fight. I just don't like it.

Honestly, I think Senna only reminded him of the locket's power. Remember that it had a glow of its own before the fight even started. She didn't give him single power. She simply reminded him that he had one thing left that might work.

And if it was the slaughter you were expecting, Bilgewater would not have survived the first Harrowing, second, or third Harrowing that ever touched down on land.

It's a fight that they most likely couldn't WIN, but more likely to SURVIVE.

As Rafen told MF, that little bout in Rat Wharf was enough for him and they had to run or they WILL die. Because all that they did was a bunch of bravado for a captain who wanted to prove themselves after condemning BW to a state she never meant to create.

Because in all honesty. Lucian is the reason why they survived the first half, and a LOT of ritual work was what saved them at the end.

LordHippoman2 votes

Did you just want the story to end with Bilgewater destroyed and all the champs dead? That would piss off an unbelievable amount of people. I don't know what a "shonen" is, but there are very, very few stories in the history of literature where the good guys don't at least kinda pull it out in the end. They certainly do exist, but they're far from the norm in this sort of adventure/horror story.

Doctor Ivellius2 votes

Bilgewater destroyed and everyone dead would have at least been a bold narrative choice over "let's completely preserve the status quo and make no changes to anything."

GreenLore2 votes

Yeah,but bold moves aren't always smart ones.

Eradicating demacia with a giant meteor would be a bold move,but also a stupid one.

Destroying bilgewater completely when Fizz &Nautilus didn't even get a mention in either story,or when Gangplanks return still didn't happen would be more on the stupid side if you ask me.

Doctor Ivellius1 votes

Eh, it just would have been nice if something had happened.

More from Story, Art, & Sound

More by Khâmul