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What's the Connection between Hecarim and Kalista?

GenoXx··10 votes·10,432 views

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So it was teased that Hecarim is on Kalista's hit list. When those champions had the smoke fog on their pages? I always wondered about this. Is Hecarim originally from the Shadow Isles too? Seems likely since the spirits on the altars respect him. So Hecarim is from old Shadow Isles too huh? Well, lets look at Kalista's and Hecarim's weapons. Don't they look similar? Maybe Hecarim was one the the few who betrayed Kalista. Maybe he was the one who did the final blow. I mean the black spear with theirs does look a lot like each other.

Thinking about this, my personal image of what happened when Kalista was killed; The Ruined King, lost someone dear to him recently. For maybe a month he grieved, then it pushed him to turn to necromancy. Seeing how his mages are the one who performed the ritual, this mean that they already knew of necromancy. When the final preparations we're near complete for the ritual, Kalista feared this would be a very bad idea and decided to stop the Ritual. The king was against this and ordered his trusted warriors to handle her.....or maybe them. Kalista says "Back to Back we stood." So it wasn't just her. Maybe Kalista had a group with her who also wanted this to stop. Hecarim was probably with her in her group but he could of been playing along. Because he shows he has a good sense of loyalty....for the king. Kalista and her group fought and when Kalista was near death, Hecarim stabbed her in the back. The one spear that sticks out the most in her back..

I believe this is why he was listed with LeBlanc and the others. But I'm just theorizing here. I just want to know the connection between them two.

27 Comments

Sharjo1 votes

As you said, I recon that Hecarim was the one who killed Kalista. I mean not only is she after him as hinted by when the champion pages for several champs including Hecarim were clouded by Black Mist, but if anything, Riot specifically used Hecarim of all champions to demonstrate her ability usage in her champion spotlight, as they've done before with Yasuo and Riven, Jinx and Vi, Azir and Xerath, Rek'Sai and various Shuriman champions. The black spear imbeded in her chest is possibly Hecarim's own weapon from when he was alive.

I personally think that the Ruined King, whoever he is, sought a path that led to the Shadow Isle's corruption, and he probably resorted to it due to Mordekaiser. Hecarim was his trusted knight and Kalista was another loyal soldier. Kalista didn't agree with the plan, and when it came down to the wire she tried to stop the whole affair, only to be killed by Hecarim. The two were then raised as un-living monstrosities to fight for a new cause.

I'd like to imagine that Morde actually twisted Hecarim in to his current appearance, but that's its own discussion. Either way the whole affair's really tragic, because Hecarim, like the King, was only doing what he believed was the right thing to do. None of these guys did what they did without regret in their hearts.

Except Morde, but he's a BAAAAAD man. Or thing. I dunno.

junglerboy161 votes

Morde's lore is basically the least canonical of all the shadow isles loves at the moment, Riot said he is going to have a very different back story when they get around to him, since all his lore boils down to right now is "big metal man steals souls and causes pain for unknown reasons", and nothing in his lore right now says anything about his relationship with any other shadow isles champs.

GenoXx1 votes

Well yea, Kalista though it was right t stop it, and Hecarim thought it was right to let the king's wish be fulfilled so he can stop grieving. But unlike kalista already does, i wonder if hecarim ever thought about how his life used to be. Except for when the west altar spirit reminds him.

I'd also like to know if the king is lamenting his choice right now, he has to be an undead as well. The Shattered Crown

Sydelle1 votes

As far as any Shadow Isles lore, I don't give a damn.

The Red Warden1 votes

Mordekaiser most definitely had a part in it as well seeing as he stated as the "first undead". Whether this means he is the one who caused the king to spookify the SI or if he was the first revived is unknown.

The connection is probably linked to Morde as well so without him their story would make little sense.

GenoXx1 votes

Maybe so. Being the first undead puts him in a lot higher suspicious profile then others. He was even known to be a wraith before the shadow isles turned upside down.

Well, this would also probably explain why he doesn't fight for the isles and for his own agendas. He never had loyalty to the king to begin with.

The Red Warden1 votes

My guess is that his goal is to make the whole world undead (aka under his control) and that he just used the SI as a stepping stone for his plans.

He could have been a spirit who tricked the king into reviving him then messing with the ritual so that it transformed all of the isles.

GenoXx1 votes

I believe Morde is actually looking for a way out. His older lore said he wanted to know people's secrets. By attacking a mage i think he wants to reverse his situation. It's hinted that his armor could be his prison.

The Red Warden1 votes

To make it clear my second post was only about Mordekaiser.

After reading the TT altar quotes about Hecarim it seems like he was once a great knight who now works for Mordekaiser, a person that he is not to trust. It isn't clear whether he is willingly working for Mordekaiser or if he is forced to.

The armor could be interesting but then you have to wonder whether he was a centaur or not.

GenoXx1 votes

xD i ment morde, morde is looking for a way out

Stars Shaper1 votes

I have a theory about Morde since the recent SI lore updates and this is that what he is confining in his armor is the Black Mist itself or it's core. If you think about it the Black Mist is actually a huge AoE version of Mordekaiser's Ultimate. There is also a line from either Fabulista or Kalista (which I cannot find anymore ._.) which says that she and Mordekaiser follow the same path (and Karthus aswell I think) and this puts a huge "?" in the actual relation and purposes of him. He might be even trying to eradicate the Mist once and for all.

GreenLore1 votes

I kinda doubt that Hecarim was responsible for Kalistas death.

Sure he also uses a staff weapon,but he uses a mix of a spear and a halberd,while kalista uses rather slim spears(and she got several stuck into her back),so I doubt there is any connection in terms of weapons. Also I am sure that if Hecarim was the one who betrayed her,then she would have a special interaction for him,I mean she got special interactions for many betrayers,people who are out to get vengance and even karthus,but not a single line for hecarim.

GenoXx1 votes

I thought that was weird also. But hecarim was used as her enemy in her spotlight and moves. He was also one of the few champions with the black fog. While it's true that their weapons differ more, Hecarim definitely has a connection to her. If riot hinted it. I would liek to actually know who shes refering to when she says "Do not foresake us, as he did" Who is this He? There maybe plans from hecarim's lines with her.....if it won't its going to be another plot hole lol

GreenLore1 votes

If Hecarim was the betrayer then they could have released the lines about him directly with kalista.Even if they don't want to spoil anything,they could have used some more generic lines that don't make it clear who he is,but at least give us some hints. I mean look at Azir,the champ that got released before Kalista,that dude has 7 taunts for his arch enemy Xerath alone,why should Kalista have none at all?

And think about it this way: If the person that betrayed Kalista isn't a champion yet,who would you make the target for her abilities?

You would either take the person who resembles the one who betrayed kalista the most,or another enemy of kalista.

And it is quite likely that the person who betrayed Kalista is now undead(because Kalista lived on the SI before they were turned into a land of the dead),which is why it makes sense to choose hecarim as her main target since he is an undead betrayer,just like the one who betrayed Kalista.

The exact same thing was done when rengar was released,since Rengar came out before Kha'zix,he used his abilities against cho'gath since cho'gath is a void monster that evolves just like kha'zix.

GenoXx1 votes

Well, yea, it's gets pretty boring that way. I would be contempt it was just a character in the story. It doesnt always have to be a another champion. But i'm eager to know what they are goign to do with hecarim's lore post retcon

Fasmodey1 votes

a dark, secret past...

Celio Hogane HD1 votes

Kalista is the spirit of the vengance, everyone who betraid someone was in a smoke.

Hecarim betraid Mordekaiser.

xXAcceleratorXx1 votes

Hecarim betrayed moderkaiser also killing kalista when she is alive

Boulderox1 votes

... it was on boards homepage >_> i did not notice... mb

xXAcceleratorXx1 votes

also there is a very high chance that Moderkaiser is the king of the shadow iles . I mean the king of hec and kalista

Celio Hogane HD1 votes

Welp now we know is not.

GreenLore1 votes

However I'd say that it is likely that Mordekaiser will eventually become the leader of the shadow isles. Morde has set his eyes on conquering noxus,he will need an army for that and why wouldn't he make use of an undead army whose leader seems to have gone mad? Not to mention that Mordes lore makes him appear even stronger,saying that he is too powerful to be affected by the black mist.

Stars Shaper1 votes

Considering that he already has full control over the Black Mist he doesn't even need to do anything but to claim that the SI are his.

Boulderox1 votes

read his new lore "Hecarim led the ruined form of the king to the center of the magical island, where he met with its guardians and demanded their aid. The guardians offered their sympathies, but told the king his wife was beyond their help. Enraged, the king ordered Kalista to kill the guardians one by one until they relented. Kalista refused and stood between the king and the island’s inhabitants. Hecarim recognized a crossroads in his life and made a decision that would damn him for eternity. Instead of supporting Kalista, he drove a spear through her back and commanded the Iron Order to slay the inhabitants of the Blessed Isles. Hecarim and his warriors slaughtered the guardians until a lantern-bearing wretch finally led the king to what he sought - the secret to resurrecting his wife."

GenoXx1 votes

This is 7 months old man.....why

Nenad87341 votes

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