"We’d recently made a corruption-themed champion with Kayn."

rtbf225618241·4/5/2018, 10:10:27 PM·14 votes·1,581 views

-From this week's Ask Riot.

This statement doesn't fit in the context you used it in. Kayn is corruption-themed, yes but the argument was that you didn't want to make Kai'Sa someone who was corrupted by the Void.

Kayn is not corrupted, he's literally a comic-relief / edgy character that has a dick measuring contest with another comic relief / edgy character. He's not corrupted yet, he's fighting the corruption by..willpower i guess. Or ego-power, whatever that may mean as he is mentally absolutely unaffected by Rhaast.

Regardless, you really dropped the ball here in my opinion, considering you could have made Kai'Sa a twisted female, something League doesn't have with the Void and have her signs of Humanity be...disturbing because it could be used in the VO to display how far she's gone.

49 Comments

GreenLore4/5/2018, 10:44:06 PM18 votes

Soo your point is that Kayn doesn't count because you can't take him seriously?

Thats honestly a rather weak arguement,because in the end Kayn does struggle over the control of his body,Rhaast is geniunly out to kill Kayn and take him over,while Kayn wants to destroy Rhaast to aquire more power. Heck one of Kayns arms and eyes already look like those of a darkin.

Just because their personalities are less on the serious side,doesn't mean that corruption isn't a big theme for a character like this.

That being said,I do agree that Kai'sa being corrupted would have been more interesting.

SEKAI4/6/2018, 5:59:01 AM5 votes

With Kayn and Rhaast, you do realise the way the 2 talk to each other is basically a fake-out contest, right?

They're both plotting and trying to kill each other in the same manner as 2 split personalities inside a body are somehow trying to off each other, and unlike most cases of split personality disorder where the split persona often have no real connection with each other besides sharing the same body, Kayn and Rhaast are mentally connected and capable of actually sensing each other's intent and emotion. Do you know how hard it is for you to get rid of someone under this kind of circumstance?

Ofc they try to deceive each other by playing the buddy game, that's the most fucked up part of their seemingly "tough love" relationship, that it's basically entirely fake and front to cover each other's end game of trying to get rid off another; imagine 2 friends who are only friends in the first place because they want to kill the other guy, and actually do it when they get the chance to so no movie plots like 'oh they actually become friends', none of that, only fake relationship aiming for the kill. Kayn is trying to find a way to erase Rhaast's persona and take the power entirely his, Rhaast is trying to survive until the corruption finishes its job and remake Kayn's body into a vessel of his own choosing with the Kayn's ego similarly erased.

The fake-out is so nasty they even openly tease each other that they are going to kill them as just some kind of joke they throw at each other (Rhaast would trashtalk Kayn and simply demand him to give up his body and soul, Kayn would taunt Rhaast and claim that he's going to kill him before he is killed), which is again, what they actually do once they have the right cards as shown in the gameplay. Let it sink in.

Battalion4/5/2018, 10:18:19 PM5 votes

I agree. There's the currently vacant position of an absolutely demented female villain of the void. They could have used the template of an epic in her lore to make her feel conflicted.

Born average Void Redemption of humanity Return to the status quo, however that status quo is now the void, so she is inherently repeating her journey of redemption.

Quepha4/6/2018, 4:07:02 PM2 votes

I like that the quote implies Riot is willing to make decisions with long-term detriments to the champion for short-term gains. As the void is based on Lovecraftian concepts, corruption is a core theme and avoiding it must be 100% impossible to maintain that horrific element of the unknowable. Riot compromised that to create a long-lasting problem for not just Kai'sa but the lore of everything related to the void because they wanted to maximize sales in the short term by making sure players didn't feel bored from this thematic.

Larriet4/7/2018, 4:26:56 AM2 votes

I don't understand why you think Kayn is supposed to be "comic relief" when the majority of his lines are pretty unironically serious.

Whyte Lyon4/5/2018, 10:49:17 PM2 votes

How does someone drop the ball when your personal idea for how Kai'sa should have been "a twisted female" when the intention Riot was going for "someone who escaped but wasn't corrupted by the experience."

Riot fucked up because their ideas didn't match up with my (ultimately misguided) expectations. - the OP

Chromatic Eagle4/6/2018, 12:45:36 PM2 votes

They’ve said a dozen times why Kai’Sa isn’t corrupted. It’s a survival story. The way that they’re selling the void now, corruption = insanity.

Fear the Kayn4/7/2018, 1:49:22 AM1 votes

Better stop talking shit about ma boi Kayn