Riot messed up Kayle/Morganna lore

JedenVojak·3/14/2019, 6:37:02 PM·5 votes·4,311 views

The story of Kayle and Morganna before the rework was a pretty simple one. Kayle smited evil, but felt bad about it. Morganna sided with evil and was corrupted by it.They were pretty archetypal characters, so I figured the process of deleagueafying their lore upon the reworks would be a simple and easy process.

Apparently, I was wrong. There seems to be a need to complexify everything in the game on Riot's part, and it would appear the lore is no exception.

We didn't need to know who their parents were

What does having a god mother (not godmother) add to Kayle's and Morganna's narritive? She has no meaningful impact on the story, other than the fact that she's the source of their powers.

Their dad does nothing, imparts nothing to them, and has no real bearing on their life. He only exists to be killed by Kayle, so she can feel bad.

Their parents have so little impact on the overall story that I fail to see why they were included at all. You might as well have just had one sentence to reference them, and focused the rest of the tale on the siblings.

Kayle is no longer good

Old Kayle fought against evil for 10,000 years to keep her people safe, and promised 1000 years of service to the League in exchange for protecting her homeworld.

New Kayle is now apparently a blind zealous enforcer of the law, with jackass followers (to artificially spur conflict), who wound up going too far and gave up on humanity.

New Kayle is a quitter, but Old Kayle never gives up. Old Kayle sacrifices herself for her people, New Kayle murders them. Is this an improvement?

Morganna is no longer evil

Old Morganna felt that her people were overstepping their bounds and too tyrannical, so she made pacts with dark forces and at the last moment betrayed her sister.

New Morganna is an avenger, a protector of the downtrodden, and a... prison reformer? She also apparently hates her powers (you know, the thing that makes her awesome).

Morganna went from a fallen angel who made dark pacts for dark powers and betrayed her people, to some kind of dark avenger, who just kinda always had dark powers for "reasons".

Kayle and Morganna having god powers is stupid

So, you could argue that Kayle and Morganna being angel people from an angel dimension is kinda dumb. You'd be correct on that. Still it's cohesive, in the sense that they're winged people from a race of winged people, and it doesn't matter much for their overall story - that is, the thing that makes them unique is much more about who they are than what they are.

New Kayle and Morganna just kinda got god powers from the womb (placenta not doing it's job), and then spontaneously sprouted wings, which is just kinda okay with the other members of their tribe. Also they just kinda used their powers to achieve high positions within their societies with their own coteries of followers. Ok? But what would they be without their powers, just as members of their tribes, because by the lore their personalities themselves seem tied to their powers? We don't know, because they're just super-special-awesome people now because "lolz powers", kinda like superheroes!

Why tho?

It seems like every single character in the game now needs to be artificially tied to some nation or another to try and justify their existence in the world. Morganna and Kayle need to be winged people with magical powers, because that's what they are, and it seems like their lore was updated in this way to facilitate these two requirements.

What I don't get, is why this very awkward super-hero-origin-story means of explaining off the characters was necessary, and why you needed to dilute the archetypal good vs evil characters into a sort of bland law vs... generic caring for others? Why could Kayle just be good and Morganna evil? Seriously what's wrong with that? Even if you feel that's too cliche, why not just give them vague mythical backgrounds since they have been consigned to the myths of Demacia anyway?

Riot basically turned this https://imgur.com/a/abw8vz5

Into this https://i.imgur.com/apmsvCc.png

48 Comments

GreenKnight3/14/2019, 6:54:36 PM8 votes

"Riot messed up lore" seems to be a theme recently.

Camille Ferrøs3/14/2019, 7:15:48 PM2 votes

I can understand everything to some extent no matter how much I dislike it. But the one thing I simply cannot understand is how they just didn't bother to explain why Morgana has dark powers.

Terozu3/15/2019, 2:36:46 AM2 votes

Morgana was never evil. She just disagreed with the totalitarian rule of her sister.

GreenLore3/14/2019, 9:21:07 PM1 votes

What does having a god mother (not godmother) add to Kayle's and Morganna's narritive? She has no meaningful impact on the story, other than the fact that she's the source of their powers.

Their dad does nothing, imparts nothing to them, and has no real bearing on their life. He only exists to be killed by Kayle, so she can feel bad.

Their parents have so little impact on the overall story that I fail to see why they were included at all. You might as well have just had one sentence to reference them, and focused the rest of the tale on the siblings.

Uhm have you actually read the lore? Their parents are the sole reason why one of the 2 is rejecting her divinity, while the other is rejecting her mortality.

Kayle aspires to be like her mother, hence why she embraces her divinity. Also she is currently at Targon trying to find out what happened to her mother, so her mother is the big reason why Kayle is the way she is and what she is doing right now.

And their fathers fled from Targon because he rejected all this divine meddling, which explains Morganas disdain for the divine, as she literally learned it from her father.

So basically their parents are the whole reason why these 2 are the way they are. Kayle imitates her mother, while Morgana learned from her father.

and why you needed to dilute the archetypal good vs evil characters into a sort of bland law vs... generic caring for others? Why could Kayle just be good and Morganna evil? Seriously what's wrong with that? Even if you feel that's too cliche, why not just give them vague mythical backgrounds since they have been consigned to the myths of Demacia anyway?

Because Kayle and Morgana were never intended to be archetypical good-vs-evil characters. You say old Kayle was good and Morgana was evil based on Kayles lore, but in Morganas lore it is the complete opposite with Kayle being described as a tyrant and Morgana as a freedom fighter. So why do you accept Kayles lore, but disregard the way things are described in Morganas?

Granted it does say that Morgana meddled with the dark arts(whatever those are) and wasn't innocent, but Kayles also mentioned how she usually doesn't even try to give someone a chance at redemption and would just "purge" them.

lowrankhero3/14/2019, 9:50:32 PM1 votes

kayle and morgana are both sides of justice taken to extremes

Kayle is punishment, the divine sword that smites the unjust, but she does so with so much fervor that she ignores the people

Morgana is redemtion, the feather onto which the unjust may rise again, but she forgives so much to the point of absurdity

for example Sylas

Kayle thinks that he may have been innocent once, a man mistreated and betrayed by his country, but his action in recent years has caused him to lose that innocence that he once had, he is no longer the victim but the predator.

Morgana still believes that Sylas can be redeemed despite the fact that over the course of only a few months he has killed dozen if not hundreds of people in his pursuit of the cause.

BraverBlue3/15/2019, 10:23:10 PM1 votes

I love their new lore, but that's just me.