@Players, Do Any Of You Miss These Aspects Of The Original Lore Of This Game?

Impetual·1/12/2016, 9:33:05 AM·9 votes·1,213 views

Please, answer these questions carefully. It's a matter that I surprisingly care a lot about.

How much do player's care about LoL's lore?

Do players care if Summoner's aren't part of LoL's lore anymore?

Do players miss the Institute of War?

Do players miss full champion lore bio's posted within the game client?

Do players miss the days when Riot would produce a cohesive and evolving narrative that tied all of the champion's within the game together?

22 Comments

GreenLore1/12/2016, 10:52:30 AM6 votes

Thats what I meant when I said you repeat yourself.

Your previous thread basically meant "old lore is better than new one" Your new thread is pretty much "do you agree that old lore is better than new one?"

You phrased it a bit differently,but the message you try to make clear is the same as its always been.

Also you talk about it like Riot had one big storyline for all champions,which they never had. There were individual storylines that focused on certain groups of champions and thats about it. Not to mention that a bunch of champions never got be part of any storyline,or were just small side characters.

Rebonack1/12/2016, 5:59:35 PM4 votes

I really liked the Reflections.

They gave really neat insights into champion backgrounds and how they thought.

So far I haven't seen a single thing come out of the new Lore that couldn't have worked with the old Lore. The IoW was only there to prevent open conflict between nations from escalating to Rune War level. Nothing even beginning to approach that has taken place.

Sharjo1/12/2016, 5:13:15 PM4 votes

It's a matter that I surprisingly care a lot about.

Yeah ok.

How much do player's care about LoL's lore?

A great deal; I'm highly invested in the lore right now.

Do players care if Summoner's aren't part of LoL's lore anymore?

Not at all. I never cared for Summoners and the lore surrounding them.

Do players miss the Institute of War?

Not at all. The Institute and its lore was the least interesting part of the lore for me as a Summoner.

Do players miss full champion lore bio's posted within the game client?

No because I'm totally happy to go look on the website. I spend enough time browsing the internet anyway that this isn't a big deal for me.

Do players miss the days when Riot would produce a cohesive and evolving narrative that tied all of the champion's within the game together?

So the Journal of Justice? Not really. I thought it was a rather clunky story telling device that did more actual telling the story than delivering it. I much prefer the lore we have now, even if it's broken in places. It's the new lore that's strengthened my investment in League's story, not the old lore.

Vistha Kai1/12/2016, 6:19:58 PM3 votes

Well, the amount of threads created after IoW retcon should speak for itself. Most of those people simply gave up, though. I mean, you can't win an argument with a brick wall.

As for the lore itself... Oh boy how much the retcon allowed them to expand the story.

Except that nothing they sweated out yet couldn't have been done with IoW and summoners around. NOTHING.

All that happened was story being cheapened for over... well, by now it'd be two years easily.

"But muh Bilgewater event hurr durr, Howling Abyss new map hurr durr". Yeah, well.

Best regards from Kalamanda.

The only medium of story telling we have now are Boards and in-game events that were already a thing.

Star Guardían1/12/2016, 8:02:17 PM2 votes

I care about the lore as much as the actual game. So, quite a bit.
I actually prefer that they aren't part of the lore. At least not in the way they were; the players being the summoners. I found that concept really cheesy and made the champions feel like they were pokemon and we were the pokemon trainers.
I prefer that the SR is not part of the lore. Once again, it made the world feel like pokemon. I view SR more as a figurative representation of the actual word of Runeterra. Kinda like how the fighting stages in Smash are representative of the worlds of the various game that they draw from. What I mean by this is that SR, Butcher's Bridge, Howling Abyss, Dominion, Twisted Treeline aren't actual places in Runeterra where people line up and fight behind turrets to protect a magical crystal, but these maps are representative of actual settings in Runeterra. The only way SR would make sense to me if it were in the lore in a literal sense, is if it were a blood sport in Runeterra.
No, since it was tied to SR and the League of Legends. I'm all for them retconing the IoW to fit the lore if the so choose to.
No, I think the website is a better place for them to be posted so that you don't have to be at a computer that has League installed to read the stories. I just think Riot should add the links in client though caust a LOT of people still dont know there's new lore being released on the site.
The story now is better than it ever has been imo. The only problem is that the pace is a little slow.

Earl Eulrich1/12/2016, 11:07:47 AM2 votes

didn´t buy RP since the retcon...

Dis The Chris1/12/2016, 5:46:56 PM1 votes

1.) LoL's Lore - Yes. I love the lore and how they're expanding Runeterra slowly. Lots of places to discover and immerse ourselves.

2.) Summoners - No, sadly the idea of these "Summoners" controlling near-godlike beings or people with positions (Jarvan, Swain, etc) with mere ease is something I'm not fond of (like the initial cinematic trailer of League of Legends). Good thing Riot thinks the same thing.

3.) The Institute of War - I love the Institute of War, serving sort of the neutral ground from all city-states and a place where Champions can train themselves, etc.

4.) Champion Bio - Don't care, its nice to read a champion's bio every now and then to ignite that dying spark. Regardless of source (wiki, official website, in-game client), I'd still read it.

4.) Last Part - I somehow miss JoJ, it involves outsiders interacting with our champions, how they would react on things outside their domain as such. Sinful Succulence Morgana's Bakery Shop announed in JoJ, Blitzcrank's Dating Service, Shaco's Interview, Akali and Shen's Blood Moon Performance, Jarvan/LeBlanc vs Swain Fight at the Crystal Dominion - a lot of stuff that I really miss. Its like reading a Newspaper of Runeterra that gets you everytime.

So for my question to you guys regarding the same topic - "Do you miss Reflections" of our Champions whenever they get introduced into the Institute of War? I for one enjoy reading those Reflections.

Ralanr1/12/2016, 5:42:24 PM1 votes

I like the story boards the most, so yes I care about the lore.
I've had awkward feelings about summoners. On one hand, it made you feel like you had an impact in the world. On the other, champions like or seem like beings that summoners would not want to interact with at all.
It was an interesting concept that would have worked well in a setting built around it. But the IoW was built in response to still fresh conflicts that obviously didn't like the creation (Demacia vs Noxus for example. They can never finish their war because the IoW is basically stoping it). If the IoW was an ancient thing where people had always fought to determine things, then maybe it would have worked better because it had always been the status quo rather than recently being the status quo.
Considering how a lot of the newer bios come with a short story along with a longer bio, not really. Sure I missed it when every champion had a lore longer than a paragraph, but I can look forward to every champion have a short story in their lore (or for them to be involved in larger stories like and ). I don't see much hassle in going to the league site to get their lore.
I wasn't around for the JoJ. But it sounds like it was a newspaper based story system, which while being an interesting narrative style it doesn't really put us in the shoes of the characters like the current stories are trying to do. We could only be told what happened, the newer ones are telling it as it happens.

Do I miss having the game and story tied together? YES. I've made posts about the minions and summoners rift in relation to the new lore. I have theories that the rift is an ancient battlefield between the magelords and protectorates. That the Protectorates won based on the victory screen being blue and the defeat screen being red no matter which Nexus breaks.

So yes I miss it and I know a lot of people miss it. But that doesn't make the previous lore telling methods better and it doesn't make the current ones worse.