What type of leader would Swain be considered?

ApathyAndGrief·4/8/2019, 2:49:35 PM·4 votes·9,456 views

He's not a president, he rose to power without the consent of the people, but he isn't exactly a dictator, either. He seems to genuinely care about his Nation, people concerning him, too. Not to mention, he split his power into three pillars ( Darius and whoever 'Guile' is), but that's not fully Democracy yet.

The title "Grand General" is more of a military rank than it is a political title. You can't be a 'General' of a government.

I like Swain , reminds me of Otto Von Bismarck

(Also, I don't get the "Swain = Stalin" jokes, he's nothing like him at all. We also don't know Noxus's economic system, either. So why compare it with Russia?)

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LordRedStone Nr14/8/2019, 7:56:01 PM5 votes

The communism jokes are (partially) due to his theme, which sounds similar to the soviet union hymn. Bismarck is definitely a better comparison.

LordHippoman4/8/2019, 8:35:00 PM3 votes

I think the Stalin jokes are based on his winter themed skin, because it had a very Russian officer vibe pre-rework.

More to the point, I think Noxus is best called a Triumvirate. It's a council of three major leaders who make decisions, presumably by discussions or votes between them, although we don't know that for sure. It's not quite a dictatorship or an autocracy, because there's not one leader with supreme power, but I wouldn't call it quite a Parliament or Senate either.

Myren Quiddle4/8/2019, 3:13:45 PM2 votes

I think his old title still suits him 'Master Tactician'. Also, I like your comparison to Bismarck, nice one :)

Warlord Dienekes4/9/2019, 1:39:57 AM2 votes

Technically nothing in the strictest definition of dictator, rather than its more colloquial uses, states that a dictator can’t care for his people or state. It just means that they either took or were given near absolute power over the government. This actually happens occasionally usually after a period of unrest. Where one person does win control and then uses their authority to establish a more legalistic government.

And also technically a military position can be a political one. The most obvious is historical shogun. Which was really just supposed to be the position that handles the emperors armies. Only it became more politically powerful than the emperor for awhile.

But anyway, if we consider Noxus a kingdom and there is no planned exit (like a term limit) for Swain’s political life, then Swain is a triarch. It’s like a monarch but there are three of them. I do not know of any triarchs historically. Though there is a few diarchs I’m aware of (rule of 2).

If we don’t consider Noxus a kingdom, more an empire. Then dictator would be the root we’d have to use. Now dict means to say which implies the absolute power where whatever the dictator says is law. This is different, the three leaders need to agree to enact policy. Triumvirate seems close but that was technically never a political position, it was just an alliance between three people who held various different government offices.

I’d go with something like concordator or concordor. Where concordare is the Latin “to agree” then slap an ator at the end to make it a noun. Of course, concordator sounds a bit silly. So if you don’t like it then Trifarix or whatever term Riot game has just as much legitimacy

Oleandervine4/8/2019, 3:21:12 PM1 votes

Swain is a military leader, and Noxus seems to be a sort of stratocracy, which is a form of government headed by military officials. This type of society is a meritocracy, and can be autocratic (one leader) or oligarchical (few leaders), though most of the governing positions are held by military or ex-military officials. It would seem this is the case since Boram Darwill was also a military general, and also since most of the focus of Noxus' affairs home and abroad are very focused around military matters. Even Swain's triumvirate is partially, if not fully, composed of military officials like Darius as the pillar of Might, and if the Vision pillar is held by a military strategist. Guile is most likely held by LeBlanc in some form or fashion, but she could be acting as a spymaster, which can also be a military branch.

Overall, Swain leads a stratocracy, as an autocrat who is kept in check by an oligarchy. Hope that makes sense.

14daysuspensionk4/8/2019, 4:52:44 PM1 votes

He's the bird leader.